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Ape Has Killed Ape
Sep 15, 2005

The incredible beauty of this whole thing is that all FYAD had to do was go "yah ok, we'll cut it out", and the admins would have left them be, regardless if they actually did or not. Instead they brigaded for a day and a half the one form it is 100% explicitly not ok for even them to brigade, stirring up so much poo poo that Hercules couldn't clean it out with the Amazon river, all in the name of not having to stop using slurs.

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Tashilicious
Jul 17, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Ape Has Killed Ape posted:

The incredible beauty of this whole thing is that all FYAD had to do was go "yah ok, we'll cut it out", and the admins would have left them be, regardless if they actually did or not. Instead they brigaded for a day and a half the one form it is 100% explicitly not ok for even them to brigade, stirring up so much poo poo that Hercules couldn't clean it out with the Amazon river, all in the name of not having to stop using slurs.

truly the only weapon that could kill FYAD was FYAD

doingitwrong
Jul 27, 2013
Pretty ironic.

small ghost
Jan 30, 2013

Snow Cone Capone posted:

I figured it out, KiwiFarms is just Nextdoor but the neighborhood is the SA Forums

:emptyquote:

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

Snow Cone Capone posted:

I figured it out, KiwiFarms is just Nextdoor but the neighborhood is the SA Forums

Tashilicious
Jul 17, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

doingitwrong posted:

Pretty ironic.

:hmmyes:

AMISH FRIED PIES
Mar 6, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Lowtax & Smythe want FYAD to go back to being the adorable rascal it supposedly was fifteen years ago but refuse to acknowledge the drug-addled former child star it will remain.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

Snow Cone Capone posted:

I figured it out, KiwiFarms is just Nextdoor but the neighborhood is the SA Forums

We only have on thread for us there from what I saw but it sure is something. Doxxing trans goons is real and frankly worth expunging them from here with extreme prejudice, but besides that it's mourning their imagined version of Lowtax who is now either powercucked or just saying what we want to hear so he can rake in that fat forums cash, and literal fanfic about how much goons conspire to do anything.

They have sad threads on such losers as Lindsay Ellis. "hahahah she makes lots of money being a full time youtuber and people literally paid her money to go to disney world and have fun drinking with her friends, and she dates people, what a dumb loser bitch, everyone wants to gently caress her (except us, right guys? haha yeah!)" I kind of want their to be a KF mock thread but we know where that would lead so nope.

Also, it seems like that place and a lot of other places where (ex goons mostly?) discuss this forum seem to have a totally skewed idea of the userbase? People act like we're a bunch of new scheming sjws that took over, when really, while lots of people have left or been chased out for sucking, seems like the vast majority of people have been here since the mid-to-late last decade and people can't comprehend that we... changed? In many cases literally grew up. I don't find the same stuff funny or worth talking about at 13 as I do at 26, weird, I know.

Accordion Man
Nov 7, 2012


Buglord

AMISH FRIED PIES posted:

Lowtax & Smythe want FYAD to go back to being the adorable rascal it supposedly was fifteen years ago but refuse to acknowledge the drug-addled former child star it will remain.
Hey if Macaulay Culkin can turn it around maybe FYAD can?

lol no

Ape Has Killed Ape
Sep 15, 2005

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

People act like we're a bunch of new scheming sjws that took over, when really, while lots of people have left or been chased out for sucking, seems like the vast majority of people have been here since the mid-to-late last decade and people can't comprehend that we... changed? In many cases literally grew up. I don't find the same stuff funny or worth talking about at 13 as I do at 26, weird, I know.

SA has always been one of the more progressive sites on the internet. It's just that what was progressive then isn't what's progressive now, and while SA's userbase has largely grown and evolved their views, as people tend to do, these motherfuckers want to keep fighting pirates in Neverland.

Peter Pan was never meant to be a role model.

Polaron
Oct 13, 2010

The Oncoming Storm

Ape Has Killed Ape posted:

The incredible beauty of this whole thing is that all FYAD had to do was go "yah ok, we'll cut it out", and the admins would have left them be, regardless if they actually did or not. Instead they brigaded for a day and a half the one form it is 100% explicitly not ok for even them to brigade, stirring up so much poo poo that Hercules couldn't clean it out with the Amazon river, all in the name of not having to stop using slurs.

But without slurs, we lose the valuable mirror that FYAD holds up to the rest of the forums culture!

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Accordion Man posted:

Hey if Macaulay Culkin can turn it around maybe FYAD can?

lol no

Forums have gotten better through purges before. Also worse. Don't know what the ratio is.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Jerry Cotton posted:

Forums have gotten better through purges before. Also worse. Don't know what the ratio is.

The real problem is that every time we purge it just creates another offsite cesspool, and that's why we have President Trump

Tashilicious
Jul 17, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Iron Crowned posted:

The real problem is that every time we purge it just creates another offsite cesspool, and that's why we have President Trump

Offsite vs onsite. hmmm

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
When PYF is purged, I'm looking forward to the forum where we get into really pedantic arguments and post pictures of cats and birds

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant

Iron Crowned posted:

The real problem is that every time we purge it just creates another offsite cesspool, and that's why we have President Trump

1 degree of separation is better than 0, anyway

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Tashilicious posted:

Offsite vs onsite. hmmm

StandardVC10 posted:

1 degree of separation is better than 0, anyway

True

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



Tashilicious posted:

Who wants to see KiwiFarms fail spectacularly in five minutes.


https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3906586

Gorgeous

That first page up to the farm screenshot reveal was p good but everything after was very bad

CAROL
Oct 29, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
interesting how im so much smarter than everyone else on this website

Tashilicious
Jul 17, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

The Saddest Rhino posted:

That first page up to the farm screenshot reveal was p good but everything after was very bad

yeah. wet blankets wanting to relitigate

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


One thing that's cracking me up is, since the purge, QCS has gone crazy with people posting threads about eliminating slurs in smiley names, or behind-the-scenes pages, and it seems like a lot of bad-faith actors are agreeing with them and/or posting even more "extreme" methods of inclusion

It's funny to me to see how fast the pendulum swung from "ironically posting hatespeech" to "ironically defending inclusion," I think I'm ok with it

e: like "lol I posted that saying 'jesus christ' is problematic, I sure owned these SJWs" just cracks me up

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

IMO the fact that so many of them are losing their minds badly enough to get permas or ban plus 30s is proof that "irony" is a cowardly mask of deniability for real unironic bigotry.

Okay we already knew that after watching 4chan metastasize from edgelords to neo-nazis with tiki torches but another data point can't hurt.

I think that a purge of bigots plus reopening FYAD with anti-bigotry rules was a good course of action but now I'm honestly wondering if there is even going to be anyone left to post there after this, lol

Pastry of the Year
Apr 12, 2013

CAROL posted:

interesting how im so much smarter than everyone else on this website

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

The Saddest Rhino posted:

That first page up to the farm screenshot reveal was p good but everything after was very bad

I stand by my meme-fu, goon sir. :colbert:

CAROL
Oct 29, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Thanks!

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

BattleMaster posted:

IMO the fact that so many of them are losing their minds badly enough to get permas or ban plus 30s is proof that "irony" is a cowardly mask of deniability for real unironic bigotry.

Okay we already knew that after watching 4chan metastasize from edgelords to neo-nazis with tiki torches but another data point can't hurt.

I think that a purge of bigots plus reopening FYAD with anti-bigotry rules was a good course of action but now I'm honestly wondering if there is even going to be anyone left to post there after this, lol

There's a dude who got an "unban this poster" thread, Average Bear. I have no idea what or where he posted normally, but in the thread for paradox games (historical strategy games where you move icons and numbers around a map, and can be anything from the aztec empire colonizing europe and forcibly converting everyone to nahautl-speaking quetzlcoatl worshippers to the USSA bringing socialist liberation to Toronto to leading nazi Germany to triumph, or in other words games where "uh, this seems problematic" and "shut up idiot it's a video game" and "fascism is powerful because it was irl" and "I am basically a credentialed historian because I play this games, therefore" come up a lot in discussion) he kept being ironically woke for the lols while also being ironically mad that he couldn't say slurs, until iirc VG told him to gently caress off with that.

I enjoyed seeing that thread because :thunk: it's so shocking that he turned out to really suck

Edgar Allen Ho has a new favorite as of 18:19 on Dec 11, 2019

zakharov
Nov 30, 2002

:kimchi: Tater Love :kimchi:
Let's collect all the threads with people whining about the Comedy Police or whatever

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3906524&pagenumber=1&perpage=40

zakharov
Nov 30, 2002

:kimchi: Tater Love :kimchi:
Also as a Forums Old Guy I can assure you that people have been registering these same complaints since at least 2002.

Andrast
Apr 21, 2010


Edgar Allen Ho posted:

There's a dude who got an "unban this poster" thread, Average Bear. I have no idea what or where he posted normally, but in the thread for paradox games (historical strategy games where you move icons and numbers around a map, and can be anything from the aztec empire colonizing europe and forcibly converting everyone to nahautl-speaking quetzlcoatl worshippers to the USSA bringing socialist liberation to Toronto to leading nazi Germany to triumph, or in other words games where "uh, this seems problematic" and "shut up idiot it's a video game" and "fascism is powerful because it was irl" and "I am basically a credentialed historian because I play this games, therefore" come up a lot in discussion) he kept being ironically woke for the lols while also being ironically mad that he couldn't say slurs, until iirc VG told him to gently caress off with that.

I enjoyed seeing that thread because :thunk: it's so shocking that he turned out to really suck

Paradox games are good as hell but good lord do they attract a lot of weirdos (and fascists)

Tashilicious
Jul 17, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

zakharov posted:

Also as a Forums Old Guy I can assure you that people have been registering these same complaints since at least 2002.

we can tell

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

zakharov posted:

Also as a Forums Old Guy I can assure you that people have been registering these same complaints since at least 2002.

Back then they'd just start a "DEAR RICHARD" thread though

Heath
Apr 30, 2008

🍂🎃🏞️💦

:psyduck: is this a MENSA thing?

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
It's a rutabaga thing.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Heath posted:

:psyduck: is this a MENSA thing?

Voight-Kampff.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

zakharov posted:

Also as a Forums Old Guy I can assure you that people have been registering these same complaints since at least 2002.

I really don't get some of this because even if we accept it's all just comedy it's so goddam played out at this point. "Hahahah he said the thing is gay and jewish. OWNED PC police jk"

I had the privilege of being a gay jewish kid in Texas when Eric Cartman was the height of comedy and it got on my nerves then even when I liked edgy humour (and the same motherfuckers at fourteen were still often weirdly defensive if you tried to turn it back on cishet white boy goyim) but by this point it's all been loving done. Puns are funnier now. If your schtick relies on "hahahahah gas the jews, right?" then perhaps you were never very funny to begin with.

And then there's the evolution where they try to be Too Woke and it just comes off as them being assholes that totally fail to understand what people are saying.

Accordion Man
Nov 7, 2012


Buglord

Jerry Cotton posted:

Forums have gotten better through purges before. Also worse. Don't know what the ratio is.
True, but the thing is unlike say GBS, FYAD really doesn't have much of a purpose anymore. GBS lets you do goofy shitposts and pretty much all of the old FYAD posters left years ago. That obsoleteness is one of the reasons it became a insular rats' nest for a small group of screaming broke-brain bigots because the majority of the users don't even go there.

Just let it die.

Accordion Man has a new favorite as of 18:39 on Dec 11, 2019

small ghost
Jan 30, 2013

Ape Has Killed Ape posted:

The incredible beauty of this whole thing is that all FYAD had to do was go "yah ok, we'll cut it out", and the admins would have left them be, regardless if they actually did or not. Instead they brigaded for a day and a half the one form it is 100% explicitly not ok for even them to brigade, stirring up so much poo poo that Hercules couldn't clean it out with the Amazon river, all in the name of not having to stop using slurs.

It's both funny and sad that a multi day pile up resulted from the inability of the average fyad poster to drop the ironic detachment for just long enough to have an actual conversation with other posters, and a lot of them are still muttering about the death of comedy now in threads with the same grey tide chuds they always loftily seperated themselves from, under the complacent understanding that everyone important "gets fyad" so there's no need to ever like...explain that poo poo that's completely inaccessible and baffling to anyone who hasn't been posting here since at least the mid 2000's, or engage in an honest discussion about whether they can or want to do more to discourage the many, many people on this site who think fyad's existence means it's ok for them to be massive bigots and that actually, that's the true and original nature of SA or whatever.

I mean, I think things need to change regardless and it was about drat time the forums addressed this, but it's like, yeah maybe don't whine about people believing false narratives about fyad if you can't be hosed to take the time to talk them through with people who are already upset and feeling threatened for legit reasons, even if it's just to protect your posting home.


zakharov posted:

Also as a Forums Old Guy I can assure you that people have been registering these same complaints since at least 2002.

I am a less old Forums Old Guy but can also confirm that not being able to be a big old dickhead has been apparently killing comedy on SA since at least 2004.

small ghost has a new favorite as of 20:44 on Dec 11, 2019

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Heath posted:

:psyduck: is this a MENSA thing?

:lol: I love that MENSA is a scam where you pay people to tell you that you're smarter than other people

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
It's doTERRA for people who are happy with their self-generated smells

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Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!
Fun fact. Mensa means table.

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