|
hatty posted:Designed by someone who has never owned a cat I suppose Just like the old MBP keyboards! Quick, give all hardware designers cats!
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2019 23:47
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 30, 2024 15:59 |
|
|
Apple finally releases a silver/black keyboard/etc, a good decade and change after making the iMac silver and black. And they’re only available with a Mac Pro (at least temporarily, if the space gray ones that were initially iMac Pro exclusive are any indication).
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2019 23:53
|
|
|
hatty posted:Designed by someone who has never owned a cat I suppose Or maybe it was designed by a cat. Never underestimate how deep this goes.
|
|
#
?
Dec 10, 2019 23:59
|
|
|
Electric Bugaloo posted:Apple finally releases a silver/black keyboard/etc, a good decade and change after making the iMac silver and black. And they’re only available with a Mac Pro (at least temporarily, if the space gray ones that were initially iMac Pro exclusive are any indication). Didn’t the space grey keyboards go for $1k and more when they were iMac Pro exclusive? Buy a silver and space grey Magic Keyboard, swap the keys and sell the result on eBay for stupid money. 
|
|
#
?
Dec 11, 2019 00:11
|
|
|
hatty posted:Designed by someone who has never owned a cat I suppose I love my Fractal R5 to death, but I had to put a piece of cardboard with tape over the power button because my cats were shutting my server down weekly.
|
|
#
?
Dec 11, 2019 00:54
|
|
|
Send in your Mac Pro to me and I'll either relocate the power button to the front or add on a safety guard for the existing top button for $999. The cottage industry of Mac Pro mods is going to be wild and I'm not even exaggerating.
|
|
#
?
Dec 11, 2019 01:09
|
|
|
Only two USB-A ports good god
|
|
#
?
Dec 11, 2019 01:21
|
|
|
Bob Morales posted:Only two USB-A ports good god Dongle life
|
|
#
?
Dec 11, 2019 01:21
|
|
|
a pci card with USB ports aplenty is like $15.
|
|
#
?
Dec 11, 2019 02:29
|
|
|
e: double post
|
|
#
?
Dec 11, 2019 02:29
|
|
|
More broadly, what do you need USBA for that can’t be solved with TB3 or networked storage?
|
|
#
?
Dec 11, 2019 02:40
|
|
|
Penisaurus Sex posted:More broadly, what do you need USBA for that can’t be solved with TB3 or networked storage? If somebody is spending $10k+ on a Mac Pro, I'd like to think they'd be taking advantage of the dual 10 Gbe ethernet ports.
|
|
#
?
Dec 11, 2019 02:48
|
|
|
Penisaurus Sex posted:More broadly, what do you need USBA for that can’t be solved with TB3 or networked storage? Also like the two TB3 ports on the top of the machine by the power button
|
|
#
?
Dec 11, 2019 03:03
|
|
|
Mouse or mouse dongle, mechanical keyboard, USBLED waifu sculpture, thrustmasters (both of them), the list goes on.
|
|
#
?
Dec 11, 2019 03:43
|
|
|
well why not posted:Mouse or mouse dongle, mechanical keyboard, USBLED waifu sculpture, thrustmasters (both of them), the list goes on. Dongles and hubs everywhere.
|
|
#
?
Dec 11, 2019 04:01
|
|
|
well why not posted:USBLED waifu sculpture If your waifu sculptures aren't USB-C, how devoted are you, really?
|
|
#
?
Dec 11, 2019 06:13
|
|
|
true believers have had their figs since USB-A, trap sprung my friend ! !
|
|
#
?
Dec 11, 2019 07:30
|
|
|
So that matte nano texture glass won’t show up on MBPs anytime soon. apple support article posted:Use only the dry polishing cloth that comes with your display to wipe dust or smudges off the screen. Don't add water or use other liquids to clean the nano-texture glass.
|
|
#
?
Dec 11, 2019 07:37
|
|
|
It also says that to clean the polishing cloth you should hand wash it and then let it dry 24 hours before using it again. Also how much does a replacement cloth cost? They probably hoard it like nazi gold.
|
|
#
?
Dec 11, 2019 08:00
|
|
|
Yeah you know someone like a coworker, spouse, friend, child is going to touch that nano glass with pizza fingers. And lol at the depreciation on the secondary market when a bunch of handlers are going to grease up that nano glass as well.
|
|
#
?
Dec 11, 2019 13:00
|
|
|
just bought one for $17,500. work receives a 10% discount on the wheels  16-core 192GB 4TB 580X XDR nano-texture AppleCare is only $210 on this thing which seems way too low, and you also need to buy AC for the monitor. Not My Money. Arrives by 1/7 
|
|
#
?
Dec 11, 2019 16:40
|
|
|
I can't wait for the inevitable Pro Display XDR+ with a higher refresh rate.
|
|
#
?
Dec 11, 2019 16:50
|
|
|
Holy hell, the power supply on the CheeseGrater ][ is up to 1.4 kilowatts. LOL, there's a single internal USB-A port meant for security dongles.
|
|
#
?
Dec 11, 2019 17:21
|
|
|
HP Z8 workstations have had 1.45kw power supplies for a while now. Apple is just catching up.
|
|
#
?
Dec 11, 2019 17:36
|
|
|
1.4kw is getting pretty close to the maximum you can draw on a regular US household circuit (which is around 1.8kw, IIRC). The previous tower Mac Pro already had a 1kw power supply, IIRC.
|
|
#
?
Dec 11, 2019 18:39
|
|
|
Binary Badger posted:Holy hell, the power supply on the CheeseGrater ][ is up to 1.4 kilowatts. The $50k version pulls almost a kilowatt when it's running at full tilt. 
|
|
#
?
Dec 11, 2019 19:04
|
|
|
Apple says the maximum is 1280 watts draw with their offered options. Also you can use two types of DIMMs, but you can't mix types on the logic board- it's gotta be all one type or the other. Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Dec 11, 2019 |
|
#
?
Dec 11, 2019 19:55
|
|
|
302W at idle.
|
|
#
?
Dec 11, 2019 20:00
|
|
|
What do you expect at 28 cores. AMD Epyc might save a little energy but it's still an obscene amount of power for one desktop.
|
|
#
?
Dec 11, 2019 20:44
|
|
|
Mu Zeta posted:What do you expect at 28 cores. AMD Epyc might save a little energy but it's still an obscene amount of power for one desktop. Two dual-core AMD GPUs probably doesn't help. I wonder if the Afterburner is a hog.
|
|
#
?
Dec 11, 2019 21:13
|
|
|
Lazyhound posted:302W at idle. It’s pondering its raison d'être
|
|
#
?
Dec 11, 2019 21:38
|
|
|
That 300W idle figure is really, really high. I would hope that most of it is from the two GPUs and the large amount of RAM. If the base version also idles at >200W then it’s probably due to the over-dimensioned PSU being inefficient at idle. e: the base version idles at 100W, that seems alright. eames fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Dec 11, 2019 |
|
#
?
Dec 11, 2019 23:08
|
|
|
It’s a neat piece of kit to expense for work but going with an Intel CPU and AMD GPU kinda sucks given where the market is
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2019 01:07
|
|
|
Wait, the new Mac Pro is single socket?
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2019 02:25
|
|
|
Yeah, looks like. No more daughterboard, it's pretty much like the G5 tower in that respect. The CPU is socketed / removable, at least. I'd imagine that a rev. B modular Mac Pro might have room for dual CPUs. The internal speaker is in it's own module, looks like the size of the Mac Mini one with a mini-woofer? It looks like one of those USB battery packs. Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Dec 12, 2019 |
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2019 03:26
|
|
|
Shaocaholica posted:Wait, the new Mac Pro is single socket? Weird because Dell and Lenovo both offer dual cpu in that style
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2019 04:11
|
|
|
The Daring Fireball guy pointed out that if you pay for the Apple display and the stand with the Apple credit card you'll get $400 cash back.
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2019 05:13
|
|
|
Socket talk: The trashcan was Apple’s big bet on not needing dual socket for their core creative market because gpu compute was going to rule the content creation world. That turned out to be a pretty good bet, but they hosed up the execution by tying themselves to a very constrained platform, both volume and thermals. The new Mac Pro corrects these problems. Presumably they don’t think their remaining pro users care more about CPUs than GPUs. 28 cores is a lot, after all, and if they added another ~300W CPU socket, that’d cut into the power budget for GPUs. (The poster above is entirely correct that ~1.5kW is an important limit for common house and office power wiring in the US. Going above that limit creates a lot of pain for your end users, which means pain for you.) The Mac Pro niche I know of that will definitely complain is software devs compiling big projects, since compilation of a zillion source files scales quite nicely (though linking does not). I guess Apple’s message to them is... buy multiple boxes and build a build farm? The thing they didn’t fix is making nice with nvidia, although the problems there might come from both ends. NV’s CEO is notoriously hard to deal with, after all. Even if he wasn’t, it’s not hard to read between the lines and guess that much of the disconnect has been tension over CUDA. Because capitalism, NV is doing everything it can to ensure that CUDA remains the only widely used GPU compute programming environment. That’s never going to sit well with Apple, which wants to completely control core APIs and other technologies used in its platforms.
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2019 05:26
|
|
|
If 1.5kw is a problem for modern high end CPUs in a dual socket configuration with 2+ modern high end GPUs then that would be a real problem for HP, Dell, etc. who currently make workstations in that configuration.
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2019 05:38
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 30, 2024 15:59 |
|
|
Fairly sure none of them support as many high power GPUs at the same time. Some of them may also be configs where you get a note in the box informing you that if all you have is a standard wall socket, it’s time to hire an electrician to come in and put in a new circuit.
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2019 05:56
|
|