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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Speaking of 2015 and socialist music that doesn't follow old hymnals:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqwWUNZlTOA

e: Hymn 181 in Common Praise, the current CofE hymnal, is Eternal Ruler of the ceaseless round. Don't know if there's a socialist version.

Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Dec 11, 2019

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Debbie Does Dagon
Jul 8, 2005



jackhunter64 posted:

Made for the Discord and I'm unreasonably proud of it



Made possible by :swinson:

Gervasius
Nov 2, 2010



Grimey Drawer
Another non-UK goon lurker here, wish you guys best of luck tomorrow, and if when you get prime minister Jeremy Corbyn, hopefully this will inspire some genuine leftist movements in Europe.

Leandros
Dec 14, 2008

I've been lurking this thread for over a year now and been using it as a source of news items to bombard my friends with. Godspeed with your friday morning hangovers, UK goons, whether out of celebration or grief. Nothing but the best of wishes from the Netherlands. May tomorrow spark a wave of socialism across the world.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I have to be up at half five to start leafleting and there's no way in hell i'm gonna sleep tonight loooool

deano
Sep 6, 2000

Just had a quick chat with a younger mate(21) of mine, my constant pushing of politics is important seems to have sunk in.

Hes been in turn getting on at his friends and those at his work about the need to get out and vote to stop the torys.

Still working on my dad and brother, its not easy dads a bit gammony and my brothers worked beside him for too long and has some bad opinions because of that.
But i reckon i can bring them around by focusing on the NHS, as my dads getting his ears fixed next year on them and if it was gone what then if i or my brother needed something like that in future.

I'll see if i can sway anyone that comes by my shop the morn, and push another couple of "i dunnos seems pointless/they all the same" to voting.

Keep up the good fight everyone!

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
Likes Cake, Hates Hamsters



Gents what's the comeback on corporation tax stuff?

Tory Brexit will do more damage, it was that high under Major and Blair and things were fine or is there anything deeper?

Leggsy
Apr 30, 2008

We'll take our chances...

Zalakwe posted:

Gents what's the comeback on corporation tax stuff?

Tory Brexit will do more damage, it was that high under Major and Blair and things were fine or is there anything deeper?

The labour line is that their CT raises would still make it lower than it was in 2010 iirc.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Zalakwe posted:

Gents what's the comeback on corporation tax stuff?

Tory Brexit will do more damage, it was that high under Major and Blair and things were fine or is there anything deeper?

Corporation tax is literally tax on profits, if companies aren't making profits they don't get hit with it, it's a tax on wildly profitable companies to ensure their profits go back into the services and societies that make them successful.

It was as high as 90% once upon a time.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Zalakwe posted:

Gents what's the comeback on corporation tax stuff?

Tory Brexit will do more damage, it was that high under Major and Blair and things were fine or is there anything deeper?


Leggsy posted:

The labour line is that their CT raises would still make it lower than it was in 2010 iirc.

Answering even though I'm not a gent.
And also iirc still lower than many other countries. So quite where these businesses would bugger off to I do not know!

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

What are apple and co gonna do, stop selling poo poo in the UK because they're making slightly less profit off it? No, they're gonna take what profits they can get.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
https://twitter.com/Npton_South_CLP/status/1204879412828811265?s=20

:hmmyes:

team overhead smash
Sep 2, 2006

Team-Forest-Tree-Dog:
Smashing your way into our hearts one skylight at a time

Put 90 hours into campaigning this election and doing another ~12 tomorrow. I've certainly never been this invested in terms of personal commitment to an election while simultaneously this in the dark about how it will go. Been doing so many hours I haven't been able to follow developments almost at all.

If Labour don't at least gain seats, it'll be really difficult to take.

Manic_Misanthrope
Jul 1, 2010


OwlFancier posted:

What are apple and co gonna do, stop selling poo poo in the UK because they're making slightly less profit off it? No, they're gonna take what profits they can get.

Amazon proved that point when they still moved into New York despite not getting a billion dollar bung for it.

Alan G
Dec 27, 2003
Spent too long digging through youtube/bandcamp for thread appropriate songs from some different styles. Had to double check their lyrics at the time I found them due to name but they seem like good folks.

Digable Planets - Where I'm From
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl-pjb7y3y0

Akala - Carried Away
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lSXd2gFt50

Akala - Malcolm Said It
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwYYI7gmQlg

Akala - Murder Runs The Globe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUEyS_XLzQk

Get It Together - Eviction Notice
https://makethatatakerecords.bandcamp.com/track/eviction-notice

Get It Together - gently caress The Daily Mail
https://makethatatakerecords.bandcamp.com/track/gently caress-the-daily-mail-3

Flying Matchstick Men vs. Grnr - Fighting Thatcher
https://toomanyfireworks.bandcamp.com/track/fighting-thatcher

Capitalist Kids - Socialist Nightmare
https://brassneckrecords.bandcamp.com/track/socialist-nightmare-2

we're gonna redistribute all your wealth
share it all with someone else
who didn't have the gumption that you had
we'll leave you something, don't be sad

we're gonna lavish on the moocher class
subsidize their lazy rear end
create a culture of dependency
a big taker society

there's nothing greater
than a job-creator
but we've decided it's best
to punish you for your success

we'll tax your business
right out of existence
we want schools and health care
who ever said life was fair?

I'll tell you what were gonna do

we're gonna redistribute all your wealth
share it all with someone else
who didn't have the lucky breaks you had
sorry if that makes you sad

now you can say you're going Galt
but you know that it's your own fault
and before you know it, there'll be a
socialist utopia

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Your work doesn't go away, everyone you spoke to, every red seed planted is part of the blossoming of the meadow. If it doesn't bloom this year, it will eventually. You can cut all the flowers but you can't stop the spring.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
gently caress I forgot some stone-cold socialist bangers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPz2ck_ndVY

quote:

When will their wants meet our needs, when will their words match their deeds
When will the time come to stand and take it back from their hands

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHcHm2QpdOw

quote:

Save yourself today in tearing down the design that they built with our hands

Failed Imagineer fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Dec 11, 2019

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/joolsd/status/1204885985605013505?s=20

team overhead smash
Sep 2, 2006

Team-Forest-Tree-Dog:
Smashing your way into our hearts one skylight at a time

Independent going in with anti-brexit deal front page tomorrow:

https://twitter.com/AllieHBNews/status/1204875657311862787

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

OwlFancier posted:

I'm conflicted, because I also think the angry rhetoric would be justified and possibly work better, it certainly does on me. But then I also know full well that I should not be in charge because the reason the rhetoric works is because I'm just angry and full of spite, and that's not the kind of person you want in charge.

I want Corbyn as PM, but whether he can get there I'm less sure of.

I desperately want Corbyn to be PM but I'll feel a bit sorry for him if he makes it.

Now that a lot of pollsters have released their final calls, I thought I'd compare the Tory leads to the final calls before 2017. Not that polls mean anything.

Yougov 9 (7 in 2017)
ICM 6 (12)
Opinium 12 (7)
BMG 9 (13)
Panelbase 9 (8)
Comres 5 (10)

So 3 major pollsters think the Tories have a bigger lead than in 2017, and 3 think they have a smaller lead. The average Tory lead from these six pollsters was 9.5 in 2017. It's now 8.3.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
One of your musical historians might know:

Some time ago, I came across a song that was sung - I think during strikes in Ireland in the early 20th century - by both the unionists and the nationalists - because it was the only song that both sides could agree on as they marched side by side. For the life of me I can't remember what it was. As far as I can remember it was just a regular popular song of the day and surprising because it didn't have any heavy lyrics in it.

Anyone got a clue? I've tried Professor Google and got nowhere fast.

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?
Is it inspiring music day?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-pP_dCenJA

There must be lights burning brighter, somewhere
Got to be birds flying higher in a sky more blue

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
Likes Cake, Hates Hamsters



Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Answering even though I'm not a gent.
And also iirc still lower than many other countries. So quite where these businesses would bugger off to I do not know!

Soz I didn't mean to exclude. Just team sport WhatsApp force of habit.

It is quite high in terms of top level economies, however the fact it only kicks in above £300k profit is a big deal imo. 21% is very normal.

Thanks for all responses. Really helpful.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

OwlFancier posted:

Your work doesn't go away, everyone you spoke to, every red seed planted is part of the blossoming of the meadow. If it doesn't bloom this year, it will eventually. You can cut all the flowers but you can't stop the spring.

Too right. In less than 18 months time we have Senedd elections. We're currently represented by a tory. A year after that we have county council and town council elections. County Council is currently mostly tory, town council is over half 'independents' who are actually tories. If the hard work that has gone on in the past few weeks bears fruit in these arena that will be fantastic even if we don't win tomorrow.

Chuka Umana
Apr 30, 2019

by sebmojo
24 hours from now we'll know

Trickjaw
Jun 23, 2005
Nadie puede dar lo que no tiene



It's a bit crazy to me that I know, and she knows me by name could be my mp. I also did a roleplay interview with her ( my daft idea) and asked her her favourite film. Subscribe, for more, and buy my tshirts..


Nah. I got all Malcolm Tucker when she said Sound of Music. Who was that dancing twar who goes there on holiday? Oh, and also WE ARE BEING INCORRECTLY BEASTED FOR ANTISEMTISM! DO NOT TALK ABOUT THE NAZIS!

Then I found out she had told it to Anglia TV.

That might ge why she cried.

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK7L5eIfd0o

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



Jaeluni Asjil posted:

One of your musical historians might know:

Some time ago, I came across a song that was sung - I think during strikes in Ireland in the early 20th century - by both the unionists and the nationalists - because it was the only song that both sides could agree on as they marched side by side. For the life of me I can't remember what it was. As far as I can remember it was just a regular popular song of the day and surprising because it didn't have any heavy lyrics in it.

Anyone got a clue? I've tried Professor Google and got nowhere fast.

Wild Mountain Thyme?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Chuka Umana posted:

24 hours from now we'll know

We may well not, alas. I really think this one's gonna go all over the place, with swings in weird places because of new voters and focused campaigning.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Trickjaw posted:

It's a bit crazy to me that I know, and she knows me by name could be my mp. I also did a roleplay interview with her ( my daft idea) and asked her her favourite film. Subscribe, for more, and buy my tshirts..


Nah. I got all Malcolm Tucker when she said Sound of Music. Who was that dancing twar who goes there on holiday? Oh, and also WE ARE BEING INCORRECTLY BEASTED FOR ANTISEMTISM! DO NOT TALK ABOUT THE NAZIS!

Then I found out she had told it to Anglia TV.

That might ge why she cried.

barman kept those G&Ts coming I see :)

team overhead smash
Sep 2, 2006

Team-Forest-Tree-Dog:
Smashing your way into our hearts one skylight at a time

HopperUK posted:

Is it inspiring music day?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-pP_dCenJA

There must be lights burning brighter, somewhere
Got to be birds flying higher in a sky more blue

I like a bit of Low Key

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxxbBRC8Ems

I prefer Voices of the Voiceless but Soundtrack to the Struggle is probably more apt.

I will never give up, I will never just quit
I will never give in, I will never submit

The reason that I came, Is bleeding from the veins
Of the people 'cause we're equal, only freedom is the aim

This album has been in the making a quarter century
Born to bless the beat and rap over recorded melody

I knew the truth since I was a small little boy
I am a product of the system I was born to destroy

Hungry
Jul 14, 2006

OwlFancier posted:

Your work doesn't go away, everyone you spoke to, every red seed planted is part of the blossoming of the meadow. If it doesn't bloom this year, it will eventually. You can cut all the flowers but you can't stop the spring.

I would emptyquote this if I could. This has all been so important, everyone who's pounded the pavements and spoken to people. I've never felt so politically impotent before, being so far away I can't volunteer my time.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Hungry posted:

I would emptyquote this if I could. This has all been so important, everyone who's pounded the pavements and spoken to people. I've never felt so politically impotent before, being so far away I can't volunteer my time.

Argue with people on the internet, it's praxis, we've got a podcast saying so and everything.

SpaceCadetBob
Dec 27, 2012

OwlFancier posted:

We may well not, alas. I really think this one's gonna go all over the place, with swings in weird places because of new voters and focused campaigning.

Glad i'm in the US so I can watch this into your early morning without ruining my Friday at work.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Ratjaculation posted:

Wild Mountain Thyme?

Doesn't ring a bell. But you've given me an idea.

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
It's a weird one

In the previous election 522 specifically placed votes could have scraped the tory minority into a bare minimum majority, and 19,286 could have just scraped out the bare minimum LAB+SNP arrangement.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Trickjaw posted:

It's a bit crazy to me that I know, and she knows me by name could be my mp. I also did a roleplay interview with her ( my daft idea) and asked her her favourite film. Subscribe, for more, and buy my tshirts..


Nah. I got all Malcolm Tucker when she said Sound of Music. Who was that dancing twar who goes there on holiday? Oh, and also WE ARE BEING INCORRECTLY BEASTED FOR ANTISEMTISM! DO NOT TALK ABOUT THE NAZIS!

Then I found out she had told it to Anglia TV.

That might ge why she cried.

should we call you a taxi

sinky
Feb 22, 2011



Slippery Tilde
Got an email from Labour telling me to go to the wrong polling station :ughh:

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/getfiscal/status/1204891584174706688?s=20

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Brigadier Sockface
Apr 1, 2007
Wishing you guys the best. You're out best hope

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