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Onmi posted:He also can't see, and he wouldn't be able to like... get any tools in. So I don't know how he'd be good at the surgery at all, in fact he'd be loving awful at it. Well, he could just, like, do normal surgery. He could be okay at that, like anyone else.
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He could just not make his eyes intangible. Or any of himself except his hands and arms.
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Dec 12, 2019 05:36
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Half of Dracula posted:He could just not make his eyes intangible. Or any of himself except his hands and arms. And how would that help? He needs to hold the tools, so his hand needs to be solid, which means there still needs to be an incision, which means there's no added benefit for Mirio doing it than anyone else doing it. Like I know there's a desire to hot take every hero with "Wow you could do so much good if you used your powers for X instead." But no Mirio has no additional benefit as a surgeon than anyone else.
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Onmi posted:And how would that help? He needs to hold the tools, so his hand needs to be solid, which means there still needs to be an incision, which means there's no added benefit for Mirio doing it than anyone else doing it. Like I know there's a desire to hot take every hero with "Wow you could do so much good if you used your powers for X instead." But no Mirio has no additional benefit as a surgeon than anyone else. I guess if you desperately need someone to reach inside of you and move your heart *slightly to the right* and then remove their hand without introducing any foreign matter or actually taking anything out of you, Mirio's your boy.
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Dec 12, 2019 06:06
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His hand would need to be solid to move the heart so no.
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Dec 12, 2019 06:24
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Mirio is one of the rare examples of MHA heroes who are actually best at being heroes and not actually anything else.
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Dec 12, 2019 06:33
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Waffleman_ posted:His hand would need to be solid to move the heart so no. He could maybe do it if he makes his hand intangible, inserts it, and then makes it tangible again EXCEPT for the precise part of his wrist that's intersecting with skin! ...Maybe.
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Dec 12, 2019 06:39
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Spiritus Nox posted:He could maybe do it if he makes his hand intangible, inserts it, and then makes it tangible again EXCEPT for the precise part of his wrist that's intersecting with skin! ...Maybe. Is, like, the inside of the body considered empty in this hypothetical? Logically his hand would be shunted out it like what happens when he drops into the floor.
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Dec 12, 2019 06:43
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Plus do they even need surgeons when there are people with kiss the boo-boo to make it better powers?
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Dec 12, 2019 07:08
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Yeah human bodies are full of junk. Even your lungs, which are technically full of air, are filled with tissues to help you absorb oxygen.
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Dec 12, 2019 07:09
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Clarste posted:Is, like, the inside of the body considered empty in this hypothetical? you mean i'm not supposed to feel empty inside?
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Dec 12, 2019 07:23
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Kung Food posted:Plus do they even need surgeons when there are people with kiss the boo-boo to make it better powers? After Deku hosed up his hands at the Sports Festival, Recovery Girl had to do surgery on him before she could use her quirk so his hands would heal properly. Plus, I think they've said that healing quirks are extremely rare.
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Dec 12, 2019 07:28
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I was extremely hype for this episode, and then I looked at the title of the next episode now i'm hype plus ultra
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Dec 12, 2019 07:32
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Spiritus Nox posted:I guess if you desperately need someone to reach inside of you and move your heart *slightly to the right* and then remove their hand without introducing any foreign matter or actually taking anything out of you, Mirio's your boy. Plus he can't see in side so any overlaps will just make his hand shunt out.
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On the other hand Mirio might have a future ahead as an effective (if extremely abrupt) GP or gynecologist
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Dec 12, 2019 07:38
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MonsterEnvy posted:Plus he can't see in side so any overlaps will just make his hand shunt out. Not being able to see doesn't really matter since no part of your body is filled with empty space or air unless something has gone horribly wrong. As mentioned, even the lungs are more like a sponge than a cavity you could stick your hand into.
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Spiritus Nox posted:He could maybe do it if he makes his hand intangible, inserts it, and then makes it tangible again EXCEPT for the precise part of his wrist that's intersecting with skin! ...Maybe. Discounting the pointed out overlapping issue, there's no "maybe" required here. This is literally what we've seen him do repeatedly when just his face sticks out of walls. It's the same thing, so this is the easiest part of it. Every other part of it kinda negates that benefit, though.
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Dec 12, 2019 09:54
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Do remember that Mirio, despite looking like a goofy, mulleted anime-Tintin, has to make calculations as to where he's moving/attacking because he can't see worth squat. He could totally hack it as a surgeon. He'd be like the Todd in Scrubs (not the sexist/chauvinist thing; the "he's a dumb meathead but he's still probably among the best technical surgeons we see in the show" thing).
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Wark Say posted:Do remember that Mirio, despite looking like a goofy, mulleted anime-Tintin, has to make calculations as to where he's moving/attacking because he can't see worth squat. He could totally hack it as a surgeon. He'd be like the Todd in Scrubs (not the sexist/chauvinist thing; the "he's a dumb meathead but he's still probably among the best technical surgeons we see in the show" thing). But that is making it as a surgeon because he is smart not because his quirk is suited for the process.
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Dec 12, 2019 20:43
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But isn't the whole reason he's even as good at using his quirk in the first place the fact that he had to be sharp in order to work out the kinks of his extremely troublesome quirk? Kinda like how Stands work in JoJo with stuff which sounds ridiculous at first is completely loving broken because  "Oh, poo poo no loving wonder: Araki is a mad-mangaka that likes to think just a lil' bit on this messed-up details".
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Dec 12, 2019 20:56
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What started this conversation was the idea that Mirio could use his quirk to do surgery which is impossible due to how the body works. However, the dedication to training and the type of mind needed to make his quirk work could be helpful in him becoming a good surgeon the normal way.
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Dec 12, 2019 21:02
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Oh yeah, but I cannot help of thinking ways that Mirio, even with the drawbacks of his quirk, could totally hack it into having his quirk a functional thing of a surgical process too. And it's also fun to "brainstorm" (read: nerd-out) about fictional characters and the stuff they could do/get away with in-universe. 
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Dec 12, 2019 21:08
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He just needs a scalpel made out of his hair and then something something.
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Dec 12, 2019 22:28
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I think the best non-combat use for Mirio's powers would probably be in search and rescue - being able to enter collapsed buildings and stuff to see if anyone is present/alive without disturbing anything. But that's still basically hero stuff. Intangibilitiy isn't that practical when you can't take stuff with you.
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Dec 12, 2019 22:32
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He'd be a hell of a covert operative
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Dec 12, 2019 22:59
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As a criminal he’d probably be unmatched for indecent exposure.
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Dec 13, 2019 00:26
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The more I think about the ramifications of the 80% of the human race being powered; how society would adapt and how it would effect people in their day to day lives, the more I think the punch man segment is the least interesting. I kinda want a silly slice of life show with a non-hero protag set in this world.
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ijyt posted:As a criminal he’d probably be unmatched for indecent exposure. He and Hagakure will form the first ever nudist Hero Agency.
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Kung Food posted:The more I think about the ramifications of the 80% of the human race being powered; how society would adapt and how it would effect people in their day to day lives, the more I think the punch man segment is the least interesting. I kinda want a silly slice of life show with a non-hero protag set in this world. Non-heroes are not allowed to use their powers in almost any real sense. Quirks are by law registered and extremely strictly controlled. Remember that Ochako originally wanted to be a hero so she could use her powers to help with construction.
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fool_of_sound posted:Non-heroes are not allowed to use their powers in almost any real sense. Quirks are by law registered and extremely strictly controlled. Remember that Ochako originally wanted to be a hero so she could use her powers to help with construction. No, Ochako originally wanted to get a special license to let her use her quirk to help her parents with their work, but they told her to pursue her dreams instead. She now wants to use the money from being a hero to support her family. People are allowed to use their quirks for their jobs, but they need special licenses for it first.
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So it's like that one Marvel Comics thing, except you don't feel as stupid while reading it/processing it.
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Kung Food posted:The more I think about the ramifications of the 80% of the human race being powered; how society would adapt and how it would effect people in their day to day lives, the more I think the punch man segment is the least interesting. I kinda want a silly slice of life show with a non-hero protag set in this world. The Vigilantes spinoff gives you some of that every now and then. They'll occasionally talk about things like villain damage insurance or welfare subsidies for people with more "monstrous" quirks that require special housing. It's not all the time, but it's neat little world building that I wish the main series would go into more.
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Dec 13, 2019 06:12
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You also also allowed to use quirks on private property with permission from the owner.
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Dec 13, 2019 06:59
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Like a vampire
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fool_of_sound posted:Non-heroes are not allowed to use their powers in almost any real sense. Quirks are by law registered and extremely strictly controlled. Remember that Ochako originally wanted to be a hero so she could use her powers to help with construction. For fucks sake, stop saying this! Holy poo poo! Every loving time this discussion comes up somebody says this even though it's loving wrong! The point, the entire point of that scene, was that Ochako isn't aiming to go help her parents company with her quirk, because they weren't willing to let her give up on her dreams of being a hero just for their sake, and she's driven to push so hard because she doesn't want their hardship to go to waste on her. Quirks are restricted in public spaces, not everywhere.
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:For fucks sake, stop saying this! Holy poo poo! Every loving time this discussion comes up somebody says this even though it's loving wrong! The point, the entire point of that scene, was that Ochako isn't aiming to go help her parents company with her quirk, because they weren't willing to let her give up on her dreams of being a hero just for their sake, and she's driven to push so hard because she doesn't want their hardship to go to waste on her. Quirks are restricted in public spaces, not everywhere. Def an appropriate response
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:For fucks sake, stop saying this! Holy poo poo! Every loving time this discussion comes up somebody says this even though it's loving wrong! The point, the entire point of that scene, was that Ochako isn't aiming to go help her parents company with her quirk, because they weren't willing to let her give up on her dreams of being a hero just for their sake, and she's driven to push so hard because she doesn't want their hardship to go to waste on her. Quirks are restricted in public spaces, not everywhere. lol ok. sorry for being wrong i guess?
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Dec 13, 2019 17:39
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It feels like this is the 8th time we've had the quirks are allowed in broader society convo but drat man, chill out
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Dec 13, 2019 18:54
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Do we ever see nonhero background characters using or displaying quirks? Like do crowd shots include people with "I'm half fish" quirk?
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There's sometimes an animal person of some shape in crowd shots, like one of young Mirio's classmates being a cat
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