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We've been listening to these hearings at work and the constant stream of lies and distractions from the republicans is damned exhausting. I'm very much reminded of the Clinton impeachment. Back then I was 21 and had been raised to believe that both parties had something of value to offer our country, that the balance of ideas was important. After watching the impeachment proceedings then, I realized that we have one party interested in governing and one party that's interested only in maintaning it's own power at any cost. I learned then that anybody calling themselves a republican is worthy only of contempt, and I hope there's a new generation watching this poo poo show today and coming to the same conclusion. These people have no business running the country. None.
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Louie Gohmert wants congress to pass a law to give them subpoena powers that they already have?
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C411 posted:Louie Gohmert wants congress to pass a law to give them subpoena powers that they already have? As has been pointed out, Louie Gohmert is very stupid.
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Dec 12, 2019 22:12
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lmao what bullshit is Gaetz pulling with the reuters photog?
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Collins really wants to concern troll about Democrats ostensibly being mean to Zelensky.
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SubG posted:Collins really wants to concern troll about Democrats ostensibly being mean to Zelensky. Did Collins just rage quit the impeachment hearing? Is that what just happened?
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Dec 12, 2019 22:45
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I wasn't interested in politics when Clinton got impeached but was it similar to this? Did Dems just Stonewall and bloviate non stop?
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Dec 12, 2019 22:50
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No, Ken Starr went on a pretty insane "investigatory" spree with a shitload of power granted to him by Congress. You might remember that the big gotcha moment was from Clinton actually *testifying* and fibbing about his relationship with Lewinsky. No loving way is anyone sane going to let Trump ever get within passing distance of giving testimony. edit: Clinton impeachment was more along the lines of Benghazi or Her Emails (keep digging and digging until you find the tiniest shred of anything) than the current impeachment
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Dec 12, 2019 22:56
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idiotsavant posted:No, Ken Starr went on a pretty insane "investigatory" spree with a shitload of power granted to him by Congress. You might remember that the big gotcha moment was from Clinton actually *testifying* and fibbing about his relationship with Lewinsky. No loving way is anyone sane going to let Trump ever get within passing distance of giving testimony. Gotcha. The only things I remember are the Starr Report and "I did not have sexual relations with that woman"
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idiotsavant posted:edit: Clinton impeachment was more along the lines of Benghazi or Her Emails (keep digging and digging until you find the tiniest shred of anything) than the current impeachment Which of course is exactly the opposite of true. Like about a couple dozen times a hearing some Republican zips through a list of all the poo poo Trump has been doing as if this is a huge zinger or something, like the fact that there hasn't been an impeachment over every one demonstrates that the whole thing is just a fishing expedition like the Starr investigation was. It's like the Republicans are arguing for bitul beshishim, only for crimes.
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idiotsavant posted:No, Ken Starr went on a pretty insane "investigatory" spree with a shitload of power granted to him by Congress. You might remember that the big gotcha moment was from Clinton actually *testifying* and fibbing about his relationship with Lewinsky. No loving way is anyone sane going to let Trump ever get within passing distance of giving testimony. He then published his entire multi hundred page report to the general public, it was a big media launch event and printed copies showed up in bookstores. Everyone wanted to read the explicit parts.
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haveblue posted:He then published his entire multi hundred page report to the general public, it was a big media launch event and printed copies showed up in bookstores. Everyone wanted to read the explicit parts. pretty much. clinton is gross old lech lich who is also a sex monster but the GOP didnt give a poo poo about any of that(since most of them have done worse) and basicaly searched for any bullshit.
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haveblue posted:He then published his entire multi hundred page report to the general public, it was a big media launch event and printed copies showed up in bookstores. Everyone wanted to read the explicit parts. That I do remember
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Is the tory victory in Britain today any indicator of our chances here in 2020?
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Grouchio posted:Is the tory victory in Britain today any indicator of our chances here in 2020?
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Grouchio posted:Is the tory victory in Britain today any indicator of our chances here in 2020? The Tories just copied Trumps campaign-style so - yeah.
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Sensenbrenner couldn't be more phlegmatic without turning into a gigantic loogie. It's possible that has already happened.
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SubG posted:Depends on how much Russia helped. They'll help the US more.
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Grouchio posted:Is the tory victory in Britain today any indicator of our chances here in 2020? probably not. i dont follow it that closely but its a whole different ball game over in the UK.
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Thom12255 posted:The Tories just copied Trumps campaign-style so - yeah. As has been shown by 2018 and beyond, acting like Trump is more likely to be electoral poison than anything else in the States now.
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Angry_Ed posted:As has been shown by 2018 and beyond, acting like Trump is more likely to be electoral poison than anything else in the States now. yeah. all the polls show trump and co getting smashed/losing in 2020. i will worry when they look the UK polls.
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Dec 12, 2019 23:55
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Grouchio posted:Is the tory victory in Britain today any indicator of our chances here in 2020? No. It's apples and oranges, and Brexit threw a huge monkey wrench in everything because a bunch of Labour is pro-Brexit too, even though Brexit was instigated by the Tories and is pushed by Johnson now. Angry_Ed posted:As has been shown by 2018 and beyond, acting like Trump is more likely to be electoral poison than anything else in the States now. Also this, the GOP has eaten poo poo in basically every remotely contested election since 2016.
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sean10mm posted:No. It's apples and oranges, and Brexit threw a huge monkey wrench in everything because a bunch of Labour is pro-Brexit too, even though Brexit was instigated by the Tories and is pushed by Johnson now. Yeah. Brexit is one of those dumb-rear end destructive issues that has adherents on both sides of the aisle for different reasons. The US has those too but they're mostly low-key things like term limits or specific flavors of economic protectionism rather than anything really existential.
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If I were a brit I would kill myself now before the food and medicine shortages get me. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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idiotsavant posted:No, Ken Starr went on a pretty insane "investigatory" spree with a shitload of power granted to him by Congress. You might remember that the big gotcha moment was from Clinton actually *testifying* and fibbing about his relationship with Lewinsky. No loving way is anyone sane going to let Trump ever get within passing distance of giving testimony. First, the perjury article was related to testimony Clinton gave while being deposed and testifying for a sexual harassment case, not as a result of Starr’s investigation. Second, lol ‘fibbed’
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I’m sure it has been asked, but... how long has this been going on today and is there an end in sight? edit: nvm. Holy poo poo, the Republicans sound defeated during their voting roll call. Sir Thats Gross fucked around with this message at 01:15 on Dec 13, 2019 |
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Sir Thats Gross posted:I’m sure it has been asked, but... how long has this been going on today and is there an end in sight? It will continue until the GOP gets bored basically. Dems were ready to pass it when they walked in this morning but everyone there knew it was gonna be a GOP grandstanding day.
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Sir Thats Gross posted:I’m sure it has been asked, but... how long has this been going on today and is there an end in sight? yeah. i think they know this wont end well either way for them and they are resigned to the loving they earned.
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Cspan- Jordan is rambling on about whatever, camera cuts to show bored democrats rocking back and forth in their chairs.
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Unfortunately, the GOP is gonna get even more animated for the next hour or two to get some prime time sound bites in.
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oxsnard posted:What does this accomplish? No one is even watching literally nothing about this matters except that it's (1) showing your loyalty to Daddy in return for (2) the chance for appearances on fox news and better returns in future careers in the conservative grift circuit
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