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bell jar posted:looking forward to turning away boatloads of poms at the border or putting them on hell island as a part of ironic colonialist justice lol we’re going to sign a free movement deal with them my dude
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Dec 13, 2019 03:39
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bell jar posted:looking forward to turning away boatloads of poms at the border or putting them on hell island as a part of ironic colonialist justice We are hell island
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Dec 13, 2019 03:48
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voting in the party that has failed to get brexit done on the basis that the will get brexit done is mighty logical anyway if the exit polls are correct the majority of the blame lies with the media, Corbyn has been the most attacked personality since forever and the media is reporting for their own interests instead of having a shred of integrity
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Dec 13, 2019 03:59
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bowmore posted:voting in the party that has failed to get brexit done on the basis that the will get brexit done is mighty logical Weird how liberal media outlets around the world are consistently more interested in attacking socialism than fascism and equating even the mildest criticism of Israel with Hitler despite their love of labelling themselves sensible progressives
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Dec 13, 2019 04:02
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i don't know how much you can blame "the media" for this given corbyn's undefinable stance on brexit, the thing that the majority of uk voters are basing their decision on
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Dec 13, 2019 04:05
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bell jar posted:i don't know how much you can blame "the media" for this given corbyn's undefinable stance on brexit, the thing that the majority of uk voters are basing their decision on
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Dec 13, 2019 04:07
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it's like shorten being pro coal in the north and anti coal in the south. people aren't stupid well, people are stupid, but not stupid enough to fall for something so transparent
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Dec 13, 2019 04:07
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bowmore posted:voting in the party that has failed to get brexit done on the basis that the will get brexit done is mighty logical if you follow uk politics at all, you will know that they're spinning this (correctly) as labour obstructionism. a tory majority will get brexit done, it just won't be a particularly good brexit
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Dec 13, 2019 04:08
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bowmore posted:voting in the party that has failed to get brexit done on the basis that the will get brexit done is mighty logical For a while the Tories were reliant on the DUP and had a significant group of Remainers. The former is no longer true and they've jettisoned a bunch of the latter. Brexit will pass quickly and fairly easily. And it will be a disaster.
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Haha https://twitter.com/axmcc/status/1205248942436425728
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Interestingly, Labor has been very successful in the UK in some respects, because they've basically killed the austerity and cutting to growth rhetoric from the tories. They shifted the discussion a long way left so the centre of a lot of issues now was the actual centre, not the centre right. So at least they achieved something while losing horribly.
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Dec 13, 2019 04:53
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Hollandia posted:2022 Nah, PM Dutton will call an election 6 months after he gets the top job to bolster his faction numbers. It will work.
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Dec 13, 2019 05:03
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bell jar posted:i don't know how much you can blame "the media" for this given corbyn's undefinable stance on brexit, the thing that the majority of uk voters are basing their decision on I mean the Labour policy was just 'we'll lock in a leave deal and then ask the public to vote on it', right? Doesn't seem that hard to define.
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Hollandia posted:I mean the Labour policy was just 'we'll lock in a leave deal and then ask the public to vote on it', right? Doesn't seem that hard to define. Yeah but what deal? That's the problem. And people (falsely and incorrectly) understood it as "get Brexit done" vs "have another referendum with ??? vs remain". I get why people weren't jumping up and down with excitement for that Labour plan.
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BBJoey posted:lol we’re going to sign a free movement deal with them my dude Not a chance.
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The Tories haven't managed to work out a way through either, though? I'm not particularly well versed on Brexit but to paint it as certainty v the unknown seems like buying into a particular narrative. Especially to cast it in that light as a rebuttal to the idea that an unfriendly media was a key instrument in how Corbyn was presented.
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Dec 13, 2019 05:27
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Whitlam posted:Yeah but what deal? That's the problem. And people (falsely and incorrectly) understood it as "get Brexit done" vs "have another referendum with ??? vs remain". I get why people weren't jumping up and down with excitement for that Labour plan. Also Labour (or Corbyn at least) said they would not take a side during the referendum. On the deal they negotiated.
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Hollandia posted:2022 Yeah, this is why Scummo isn't even pretending to care.
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BBJoey posted:Electoralism will never save you GoldStandardConure posted:Nah, then the media will just run a 24/7 campaign forever about how they lied. is okay, i was making a vague call back.
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hambeet posted:is okay, i was making a vague call back. is not okay
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Hollandia posted:The Tories haven't managed to work out a way through either, though? They've been hampered by having to rely on the DUP (Northern Ireland conservatives who are exactly as poo poo as that sounds) and on being internally split on the matter (which has been partially resolved thanks to some Remainers umm...leaving). There's nothing standing in the way of Brexit now.
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Senor Tron posted:Not a chance. They meant let the white British people in. As long as Spuds Dutton is minister for White Fright, he'll let them in.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:They've been hampered by having to rely on the DUP (Northern Ireland conservatives who are exactly as poo poo as that sounds) and on being internally split on the matter (which has been partially resolved thanks to some Remainers umm...leaving). Yeah, I mean, now. Doesn't explain the campaign/voting. Anyway, good luck UK.
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The Tories had a very clear message: get brexit done No it’s not grounded in reality and ignores the complexity of doing it, but voters don’t want that. They want big daddy Boris to come and read them a bedtime story that everything will be alright, the world is simple, and it can all be solved with solutions your average idiot three pints in can fully comprehend
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GoldStandardConure posted:is not okay drat, my bad
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Shorten should have just made up some bullshit that climate change is real but solvable and we’re going to make a fuckton of money by being world leaders in it Coal jobs will phase out, but for every job lost we will create three new jobs in manufacturing and green energy, with re-training at no cost to the worker. No worker leaving the fossil fuel industry will be out of work for more than 3 months under a labor government. Also we’ll drive all non-whites into the sea Would have been a landslide.
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down the back of the bowl. leaving a big fat skid
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Got an email from our electricity company saying our prices are increasing. now I vote Liberal
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bell jar posted:it's like shorten being pro coal in the north and anti coal in the south. people aren't stupid lol I don't know about that second part.
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LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:lol I don't know about that second part. which is why we have a glorious bill shorten government today
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So what are we guessing - caught taking bribes, affair, sexual assault?
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We need a Labor leader from the union movement and who is also able to play the media. Basically impossible.
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Megillah Gorilla posted:So what are we guessing - caught taking bribes, affair, sexual assault? None of those things even come close to damaging a politician's career nowadays though?
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Gridlocked posted:Hi, I'm sorry you were in that horrific position. Sadly those situations, especially the unprecedented horrifyingly destructive ones, are logistical nightmares. We try our best but they are very trying times for us too. Nah it's all good I understand how overwhelming those things are and I know the people helping us were doing the best they can. When we got evacuated we managed to get to an apartment block and the groundskeeper there was working all night to find people including us somewhere to stay, I went back after the floods and thanked him with a bottle of whiskey, sadly people in that apartment block had put in complaints against him because of what he did. Some people really suck, some people go above and beyond. 
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Anidav posted:We need a Labor leader from the union ahhhh there's that anidav blind optimism. straight to the veins.
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Megillah Gorilla posted:So what are we guessing - caught taking bribes, affair, sexual assault? being compassionate
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