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Illuminti posted:I've never voted Tory in 5 general elections. But I can be pretty certain that this thread is a little microcosm of why Labour lost and will continue to lose. I'm going to call a spade a loving spade mate. If people don't want to be accused of voting for ethnic cleansing maybe they shouldnt vote for ethnic cleansing? bionic vapour boy fucked around with this message at 03:57 on Dec 13, 2019 |
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Illuminti posted:I've never voted Tory in 5 general elections. But I can be pretty certain that this thread is a little microcosm of why Labour lost and will continue to lose. And the fact that they thought there were two equally bad choices is why the death of your nation will be met with cheers.
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Illuminti posted:Exactly. And they elected a leader who thought this and then demanded he campaign against the views he's held for 40 years. No wonder it's a loving mess I think its easy when you are a student or some kind of office worker to lose sight of how neoliberalism operates and why the national bourgeoisie on the business end of the EU would be vehemently against it. The people who make Milton Mowbray pork pies are going to vote leave because they can't compete against cheap industrial meat pies from the EU. And the DOP protections that the EU grants them means jack poo poo, because nobody on the continent wants to eat their rank rear end pies anyway.
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Jollity Farm posted:Rachel Riley would probably say that "rich people" is obviously an antisemitic dog whistle, and Rachel Riley can choke to death on Boris Johnson's poo poo. I'm not going to post the tweet but gently caress. She is so loving oblivious. It would be nice if all the celebs who became politically engaged against Corbyn continued to pay attention as Boris tries to turn the country into his own personal toilet, but I doubt it.
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MrFlibble posted:I'm glad that you will suffer with the rest of us. Wish none of us had to. It's especially so upsetting because it's been obvious for years. But o
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This is looking eerily familiar to our Aus election where Labor were torpedoed hard by a third party shuffling votes away from them handing the AusTories a majority. That and the media just taking a big dump on the Labor leader at every available opportunity.
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Horsebanger posted:This is looking eerily familiar to our Aus election where Labor were torpedoed hard by a third party shuffling votes away from them handing the AusTories a majority. I mean Murdoch's an aussie and all that.
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https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1205320140549697542?s=20 Yikes, that split though.
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Private Speech posted:I mean Murdoch's an aussie and all that. yeah, sorry. not our best export.
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bionic vapour boy posted:I'm going to call a spade a loving spade mate. If people don't want to be accused of voting for ethnic cleansing maybe they shouldnt vote for ethnic cleansing? You will be shocked to learn that virtually every voter does not think they are voting for ethnic cleansing. But I'm sure you also think all those voters are consciously racist, stupid and violent.
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JosefStalinator posted:https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1205320140549697542?s=20 gently caress it, Chuka eating poo poo is worth it. What's one more conservative to the majority pile.
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Illuminti posted:You will be shocked to learn that virtually every voter does not think they are voting for ethnic cleansing. But I'm sure you also think all those voters are consciously racist, stupid and violent. They may not think that, but that is what they're voting for? What, we can't try to persuade people by pointing out the other guys' actual policies?
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Nigel Dodds out! Arlene is standing with him as he lost lol.
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Horsebanger posted:That and the media just taking a big dump on the Labor leader at every available opportunity. Centrism is a disease.
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Mulva posted:And the fact that they thought there were two equally bad choices is why the death of your nation will be met with cheers. Forums poster shocked that people have different priorities from them.
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I can't tell if these people are being willfully obtuse or if they're just incredibly stupid.
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The only project left is now to maybe save scotland and break up the union
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https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1205321019868749824?s=20 Eat poo poo DUP.
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Illuminti posted:Forums poster shocked that people have different priorities from them. I actually like the UKMT being a bubble. I'm well aware the UK is full of cunts, I prefer they stay out of here. So, off you go.
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Illuminti posted:You will be shocked to learn that virtually every voter does not think they are voting for ethnic cleansing. But I'm sure you also think all those voters are consciously racist, stupid and violent. I’m sure that knowing 80% of the voters were merely apathetic while voting for the ethnic cleansing instead of actively desiring it will be of great comfort
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Illuminti posted:You will be shocked to learn that virtually every voter does not think they are voting for ethnic cleansing. But I'm sure you also think all those voters are consciously racist, stupid and violent. The cleansing of pure Britain and British culture from foreign corruption (they don't even speak the language, they take our jobs and homes, they're all [a whole bunch of negative stereotypes] and should shape up, when was the last time you get served by a British waiter, no shame in being proud and defending British culture, the imperial measures, etc, etc) is a major plank in the Tory and Brexit platforms though. Nobody says they are violent necessarily, or all consciously racist even. But they loving love the idea of ethnically cleansing Britain, to whatever degree they can get away with.
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JosefStalinator posted:https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1205320140549697542?s=20 christ, it was us who should have stood down against chuka... thats very embrassing
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Darth Walrus posted:They may not think that, but that is what they're voting for? What, we can't try to persuade people by pointing out the other guys' actual policies? They might be voting for something completely different mate. And they also might not consider stopping travellers setting up wherever they want as ethnic cleansing. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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TheIllestVillain posted:I can't tell if these people are being willfully obtuse or if they're just incredibly stupid.
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this thread has always been a bubble, it is what it is. it is funny when there's a big election and posters with different points of view post in here for a few hours and everyone gets really upset
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Private Speech posted:The cleansing of pure Britain and British culture from foreign corruption (they don't even speak the language, they take our jobs and homes, they're all [a whole bunch of negative stereotypes] and should shape up, when was the last time you get served by a British waiter, no shame in being proud and defending British culture, the imperial measures, etc, etc) is a major plank in the Tory and Brexit platforms though. I think he was referring to section on Travelers in the tory manifesto edit: also that is a classic "lumping everyone in together" The millions of people who voted tory in this election are not all former BNP members. No matter how many times you accuse them of it Illuminti fucked around with this message at 04:12 on Dec 13, 2019 |
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TheIllestVillain posted:I can't tell if these people are being willfully obtuse or if they're just incredibly stupid. i can't speak to "these people" in general but i can confirm that popehat specifically is very stupid
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Illuminti posted:They might be voting for something completely different mate. And they also might not consider stopping travellers setting up wherever they want as ethnic cleansing. But it is, and it's part of the package they're voting for, even if it's not their top priority. It is the functional result of their vote. Why not bring it up, if that is the case?
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Raffles posted:this thread has always been a bubble, it is what it is. The different views directly correlate to more people dying in underfunded hospitals and on the street. Might have something to do with being upset.
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If someone hits a pedestrian with a car because they're not looking at the road then they're generally morally culpable in some way for not looking at the road while they're driving. Like we can look at why they didn't look at the road and what wider social context is causing people to not realise that looking at the road is a good thing, that is an important thing to look at but still, it was bad that they did not look at the road and if your pal tells you they don't like to look at the road they're still doing a bad thing The pedestrian is minority groups and the poor, to be clear
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Illuminti posted:I think he was referring to section on Travelers in the tory manifesto Was he? I didn't think/know/realise. Either way doesn't change the substance of what I said. The traveller issue is a bit more complex obviously, even if it's ultimately also an issue of acceptance of other people's way of life. They have no less of a right to the land than the majority population do. One interesting bit is that Roma and Travellers tend to do well in the US and don't face much prejudice there. Possibly the size of the country helps.
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MrFlibble posted:The different views directly correlate to more people dying in underfunded hospitals and on the street. like this
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Communist Thoughts posted:christ, it was us who should have stood down against chuka... thats very embrassing No, the Libs should have thrown themselves into the loving sea, where hopefully they'll choke on all the microplastic from the 10p bags their precious 5p plastic bag tax caused. Lying loving splitters.
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mila kunis posted:Labour losses starting to come in, the vote splits. My god Welp
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Private Speech posted:One interesting bit is that Roma and Travellers tend to do well in the US and don't face much prejudice there. Possibly the size of the land helps. It turns out, not being actively discriminated against does wonders for one's ability to succeed. It sounds pretty crazy, I know, but I think we have to follow the data on this one 
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