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Doctor Teeth posted:i can't speak to "these people" in general but i can confirm that popehat specifically is very stupid Applying lessons from different countries often feels like hammering a square peg in a circular hole. I mean Corbyn was unpopular, but he was also unpopular in 2017. This was much more about policies than popularity.
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Raffles posted:like this I'll be happy when you gently caress off, yes.
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Raffles posted:this thread has always been a bubble, it is what it is. Get the gently caress out of my bubble
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Fight breaking out as John McDonnell is declared. Arm big John.
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MrFlibble posted:I'll be happy when you gently caress off, yes. dude gently caress off, you don't own this thread or being upset that tonight is proper poo poo. this thread loving sucks
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El Pollo Blanco posted:It's always real funny when "I'm totally not a Tory, guys" poster turns up to tell everyone they're hysterical and toxic in election threads For what it's worth, I'm a media wanker from London who voted remain (just, I don't really like the EU) and voted Labour in 4 or 5 elections. also, lol at getting bitter at being called hysterical and toxic on the day your team got loving wiped out for being toxic
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Popehat is a "free speech at all cost" Libertertarian. Some people only see him dunk on Trump but 70% of his twitter activity is retweeting neolib takes on how nazis deserved to be heard.
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Katt posted:Where do MPs go that lose their seats anyway? Do they get jobs with the party or just gently caress off? From the public gravy train to private lobby company gravy train.
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Raffles posted:dude gently caress off, you don't own this thread or being upset that tonight is proper poo poo. this thread loving sucks I am, however, perfectly entitled to tell you to gently caress off. Which you should do.
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Politics threads on SA tend to be bubbles, but the solution to that isn't to figure out how to invite more assholes into the thread, it's to figure out how to make the outside world more receptive to notions like "racism is bad" and "Brexit is a stupid plan for morons."
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The spin around this is dizzying. https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/1205325321412784129
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Illuminti posted:For what it's worth, I'm a media wanker from London who voted remain (just, I don't really like the EU) and voted Labour in 4 or 5 elections. Keep going I'm almost there
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Stroud is gone, I'm sorry you guys.
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Illuminti posted:For what it's worth, I'm a media wanker from London who voted remain (just, I don't really like the EU) and voted Labour in 4 or 5 elections. By all means then, please drown us in your poo poo takes
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Hamelekim posted:The spin around this is dizzying.
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MrFlibble posted:I am, however, perfectly entitled to tell you to gently caress off. we're all hurting
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Illuminti posted:For what it's worth, I'm a media wanker from London who voted remain (just, I don't really like the EU) and voted Labour in 4 or 5 elections. this thread isnt actually labour hq and we lost because we didnt convince leave voters we could be trusted has anyone blamed alistair campbell yet cause if not I bags
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Exit poll is now down to a 64 seat majority btw.
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Illuminti posted:I think he was referring to section on Travelers in the tory manifesto For your edit, I suppose it is at that. It's a major plank of Tory and BXP platform though. I mean it is. Objectively. There's actual academic research done on it. It's also a popular one, based on polling. Probably shouldn't have used "they" in the last sentence, but rather "many of CON/BXP voters are really receptive to the messages promoting ethnic cleansing, as shown by the data that is available". Better?
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Apraxin posted:Exit poll is now down to a 64 seat majority btw. SNP seem to be doing really well, and the swings in London look to be not as bad. A few lucky breaks for labour where Brexit actually saved their butt too (up North).
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Apraxin posted:Exit poll is now down to a 64 seat majority btw. yay. woo.
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How does anyone have the audacity to claim to know Labour lost, 'for being toxic'? What does that even mean?
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Part of the problem i think is that the UK is linguistically and culturally co-extensive with the US and therefore vulnerable to the same tendencies, like few right wing Dutch people will have read Alex Jones for example. You also have a similar two party(-lite) system that doesnt offer much protection. And now you'll become Little America.
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JosefStalinator posted:A few lucky breaks for labour where Brexit actually saved their butt too (up North). https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1205306990043500545
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Shibawanko posted:Part of the problem i think is that the UK is linguistically and culturally co-extensive with the US and therefore vulnerable to the same tendencies, like few right wing Dutch people will have read Alex Jones for example. You also have a similar two party(-lite) system that doesnt offer much protection. And now you'll become Little America. The UK is far whiter than the US is.
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Private Speech posted:For your edit, I suppose it is at that. It's a major plank of Tory and BXP platform though. I mean it is. Objectively. There's actual academic research done on it. Look, maybe some of those guys are just really keen on Tory economic policies and just uninterested in ethnic cleansing, which is a definite moral high ground.
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Vindicator posted:How does anyone have the audacity to claim to know Labour lost, 'for being toxic'? What does that even mean? It means "abloobloobloo, stop calling me a racist for saying racist poo poo".
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Brexig got labour. Policies were popular, Corby was disliked but he was similarly disliked in 2017.It was brexit splitting the labour leave vote.
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The millions of people who voted for the Nazis in 1933 totally weren't Nazis and definitely weren't enabling German fascism, just like everyone who voted for the Tories absolutely isn't enabling British fascism, nope, not at all gently caress the Tories and every single fucker who voted for their fascist bullshit
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Illuminti posted:Forums poster shocked that people have different priorities from them. I'm not shocked tonight happened, I've known what Britain was and what it deserved for awhile. That anything over 5% of your country looked at the idea of "Brexit" and thought it had any merit wrote you people off years ago. e: It's a tragedy that innocent people are going to be hurt by this, but there is no good solution when so much of your country is filled with ignorant shitheels that vote. Mulva fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Dec 13, 2019 |
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Vindicator posted:How does anyone have the audacity to claim to know Labour lost, 'for being toxic'? What does that even mean? Probably shaped by media, but it's undeniable that Corbyn was polling significantly below Johnson in favourability ratings. And I do mean significantly, like 30%+. I don't think it's been a major factor since it was the same way with May though. Remember, most popular PM ever? loving right-wing media (and oh please tell me that the sun frontpages were loving neutral don't you dare)
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Snowman_McK posted:Look, maybe some of those guys are just really keen on Tory economic policies and just uninterested in ethnic cleansing, which is a definite moral high ground. Look they just have a different opinion to you about children starving to death, sounds like you have some growing up to do
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Venomous posted:The millions of people who voted for the Nazis in 1933 totally weren't Nazis and definitely weren't enabling German fascism, just like everyone who voted for the Tories absolutely isn't enabling British fascism, nope, not at all Please tell us how we're going to win the voters who swung from Labour to Tory back, if you think they're all racists.
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Is there even an example of a platform that successfully fosters healthy discussion between people with massive political differences? Because Facebook or Twitter aren't it.
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We tried, thread We tried
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Debbie Does Dagon posted:By all means then, please drown us in your poo poo takes Oh because you guys have been bang on the money with your takes for 3 years...
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Venomous posted:The millions of people who voted for the Nazis in 1933 totally weren't Nazis and definitely weren't enabling German fascism, just like everyone who voted for the Tories absolutely isn't enabling British fascism, nope, not at all Maybe a lot of people didn't like the rampant anti-semitism in the Labour party, the same as we didn't like Nazis.
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