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All across the UK Labour are hemorrhaging votes to the Brexit party and the Lib Dems are winning gently caress all How on earth do you look at that and say "if only they were more pro remain"?
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Atrocious Joe posted:the UK being a multi-party parliamentary system with one elected legislature using first past the post is some wild bullshit though. its really kind of surprising it's lasted this long. It makes no sense and leads to weird, unrepresentative results. i've been thinking about that video that came out today with martin sheen where he's like "the founding fathers built a beautiful system" and loling
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Atrocious Joe posted:the UK being a multi-party parliamentary system with one elected legislature using first past the post is some wild bullshit though. its really kind of surprising it's lasted this long. It makes no sense and leads to weird, unrepresentative results. The american way! 
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Dec 13, 2019 05:16
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Homeless Friend posted:This is all boring poo poo though, Americans just fly around gunning down folks from helicopters and dropping loads of ordinance. That's badass. The UK did that too, but the technology at the time meant they had to use gunboats
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Dec 13, 2019 05:17
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Atrocious Joe posted:the UK being a multi-party parliamentary system with one elected legislature using first past the post is some wild bullshit though. its really kind of surprising it's lasted this long. It makes no sense and leads to weird, unrepresentative results. We purposely trained him wrong, as a joke
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Dec 13, 2019 05:17
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Atrocious Joe posted:Like, the US uses first past the post too, but it was designed on purpose to be unrepresentative of the masses and to stop change from happening. It was built hosed up on purpose. FPTP is a UK thing that's used almost exclusively in its former colonies (some got rid of it though). Like the map of voting systems is pretty much British_Empire.png
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Atrocious Joe posted:The UK did that too, but the technology at the time meant they had to use gunboats Exactly, they didn't get to be cool. Wheres your stratofortress brits 
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Dec 13, 2019 05:18
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all farage has to do is just revive UKIP once brexit is done on a "kick all out the foreigners dumb enough to stay" platform and he'll continue to handicap labor ad infinitum scotland and northern island need to gtfo soon
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Dec 13, 2019 05:18
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Atrocious Joe posted:the UK being a multi-party parliamentary system with one elected legislature using first past the post is some wild bullshit though. its really kind of surprising it's lasted this long. It makes no sense and leads to weird, unrepresentative results. The US is also a two-party system which is the natural result of first-past-the-post which explicitly encourages you to choose the lesser of two evils. A 3-6 party system makes a bad system even worse because you have to explicitly tell people not to vote for your party in this "tactical voting" thing and if they ignore you you're screwed.
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Dec 13, 2019 05:19
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Homeless Friend posted:Exactly, they didn't get to be cool, wheres your stratofortress brits way to forget about bomber harris 
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Dec 13, 2019 05:19
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Pook Good Mook posted:SNP runs on Remain, sweeps. This board tells me Labour couldn't run on Remain because... reasons? perhaps they could have prevented this by being more explicitly in favour of Remain?
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Dec 13, 2019 05:19
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Ah, so this is what victory looks like... Normanton, Pontefract and Castleford: Lab HOLD LAB: 37.9% (-21.6) CON: 35.3% (+5.3) BREX: 16.6% (+16.6) LDEM: 6.5% (+5.1) OTH: 3.7% (+3.7) Swing: -21.6 Turnout: 57.1%
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Dec 13, 2019 05:20
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Atrocious Joe posted:the UK being a multi-party parliamentary system with one elected legislature using first past the post is some wild bullshit though. its really kind of surprising it's lasted this long. It makes no sense and leads to weird, unrepresentative results. British common law is built on the same principle, where you just have a tradition of precedents that build up over time until you end up with a government that looks like mismatched parts from defunct LEGO sets.
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Dec 13, 2019 05:20
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Taintrunner posted:so how loving bad do things get in 2020 next year. what’s all the worst case scenarios. gimme specifics Republicans regain house and gain seats in Congress and trump gets reelected
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Dec 13, 2019 05:21
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the british crave punishment to ease the guilt of their ancestral crimes, who are we to deny them penance
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Dec 13, 2019 05:21
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*Labour defeats every Brexit vote and LibDems lose more seats than they gain* IF i WaS cOrByN i WouLd SiMplY RuN AgAinSt BrExIt
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Dec 13, 2019 05:23
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spacemang_spliff posted:Republicans regain house and gain seats in Congress and trump gets reelected Bernie sanders runs (and loses the popular vote), Republicans regain house, get a supermajority in Congress, Trump is reelected
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Dec 13, 2019 05:23
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Taintrunner posted:so how loving bad do things get in 2020 next year. what’s all the worst case scenarios. gimme specifics Trump and Boris do the fusion dance, their combined power as Bornald Trumpson is so great that they take over the entire earth.
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Dec 13, 2019 05:23
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The labor party isn't going to have some massive snap back to the right because of this; absolutely none of the material conditions that have driven it have changed. Young people are still pissed. Old people are still trying to fly the country into the ground. The liberals remain completely useless.
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Dec 13, 2019 05:24
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KaptainKrunk posted:Bernie sanders runs (and loses the popular vote), Republicans regain house, get a supermajority in Congress, Trump is reelected also Hawaii votes to become an independent nation and Puerto Rico starts rumbling about joining Cuba
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Dec 13, 2019 05:25
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KaptainKrunk posted:Bernie sanders runs (and loses the popular vote), Republicans regain house, get a supermajority in Congress, Trump is reelected republicans gain 34 state legislatures and call constitutional convention
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Dec 13, 2019 05:25
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Ah, goddammit https://twitter.com/bbcelection/status/1205328829750878208
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Dec 13, 2019 05:26
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Taintrunner posted:so how loving bad do things get in 2020 next year. what’s all the worst case scenarios. gimme specifics - third israeli election in a year finally gives bibi the presidency back, all criminal charges against him are dropped - italian coalition collapses, Salvini's fascist bloc win outright majority - same for spanish coalition, mainstream right-wing invites Vox into coalition - more once-in-a-century storms, fires, etc, increased ice melt to levels that 10 years ago were predicted for 2100, all that good stuff ..just off the top of my head
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Dec 13, 2019 05:26
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Atrocious Joe posted:Lenin This is the best possible reply the British Government could give to a question that the non-Communist British labour “leaders", who are captives to bourgeois prejudices, are afraid even to ask, namely, which class the terror is directed against—the oppressed and exploited, or the oppressors and exploiters? Is it a question of the “freedom” of the capitalists to rob, deceive and dupe the working people, or of the “freedom” of the toilers from the yoke of the capitalists, the speculators and the property-owners? The labour “leaders” who pursue a non-Communist policy are 99 per cent representatives of the bourgeoisie, of its deceit, its prejudices. In conclusion, I want to thank you once again, comrades, for having sent your delegation here. Despite the hostility of many of the delegates towards the Soviet system and the dictatorship of the proletariat, and although many of them are in the grip of bourgeois prejudices, their acquaintance with Soviet Russia will inevitably accelerate the collapse of capitalism throughout the world. N. Lenin 30.5.1920
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Dec 13, 2019 05:27
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Taintrunner posted:so how loving bad do things get in 2020 next year. what’s all the worst case scenarios. gimme specifics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA1SxZoFmOU
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Dec 13, 2019 05:27
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Dec 13, 2019 05:27
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Taintrunner posted:so how loving bad do things get in 2020 next year. what’s all the worst case scenarios. gimme specifics supreme court strikes down a bunch of key parts of obamacare causing it to unravel and dozens of millions of people to wake up without health insurance or health insurance 1000% more expensive
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Dec 13, 2019 05:27
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Apraxin posted:- trump re-elected, republicans take back the house, ginsburg and breyer both die and the supreme court is 7-2 by end of year. how about the German far right get to select the next chancellor as a lil end of the year cherry on top
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Dec 13, 2019 05:28
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Venom Snake posted:supreme court strikes down a bunch of key parts of obamacare causing it to unravel and dozens of millions of people to wake up without health insurance or health insurance 1000% more expensive the most common obamacare plan i used to see at my old job had a $6400 deductible lol
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Dec 13, 2019 05:29
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Taintrunner posted:so how loving bad do things get in 2020 next year. what’s all the worst case scenarios. gimme specifics just watch Threads on YouTube and that feeling you have afterwards about sums it up.
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Dec 13, 2019 05:29
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Der Meister posted:how about the German far right get to select the next chancellor as a lil end of the year cherry on top germany is an interesting case cause while you have actual nazis coming back you also have like; people in berlin being so angry about rent they protested till the government froze rents
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Dec 13, 2019 05:30
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Serf posted:the most common obamacare plan i used to see at my old job had a $6400 deductible lol it's poo poo but it could be even more poo poo, seems to be a common trend lately edit: like, im not talking tenable versus untenable. only sliding scales of untenable
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Dec 13, 2019 05:30
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If we're laying our Cyberpunk 2077 fan timelines, be sure to include Macron crowning himself and declaring a new French Empire Also AMLO in Mexico and Alberto Fernández in Argentina being forced out of office
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Dec 13, 2019 05:31
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Venom Snake posted:it's poo poo but it could be even more poo poo, seems to be a common trend lately i guess my point is that it was so poo poo that it was basically having no insurance and it will become even shittier i guess
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Dec 13, 2019 05:31
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Serf posted:i guess my point is that it was so poo poo that it was basically having no insurance and it will become even shittier i guess now available in the U.K.!
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Dec 13, 2019 05:32
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Apraxin posted:- trump re-elected, republicans take back the house, ginsburg and breyer both die and the supreme court is 7-2 by end of year. the reactions to this one would be incredible
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Dec 13, 2019 05:32
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Apraxin posted:- trump re-elected, republicans take back the house, ginsburg and breyer both die and the supreme court is 7-2 by end of year. water wars permanent droughts mass migrations/entire countries countries fascist control in less ecologically damaged areas American civil war 2 god-emperor trump
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Dec 13, 2019 05:33
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also if you don't want to get blackpilled, France is literally right next to the UK and is having a general strike right now against neoliberal reforms
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Dec 13, 2019 05:33
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Venom Snake posted:germany is an interesting case cause while you have actual nazis coming back you also have like; people in berlin being so angry about rent they protested till the government froze rents Hopefully it'll be the same in other countries, I figure Germans just have a more recent bad time they can remember and organize against. Comparatively, the UK and US have many people to this day who are convinced they are forces of good.
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Freaks. Absolute, total perverts.
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