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https://twitter.com/NoahCRothman/status/1205540206121803777 Well, looks like the right are trying their tricks on Bernie now. I just don't think the Orwellian trickery is going to work as well on someone who lost family in the Shoah.
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https://twitter.com/MailOnline/status/1205729155595276289?s=20 gently caress yeah! https://twitter.com/Potatopolitics/status/1206012246041747456?s=20 Oh 
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Our next political battle is mayor of london in May 2020. I know Katie Hopkins seems keen to try to oust him. Can't see London electing a Tory mayor given the how red the city has gone. I guess this is the grounds of battle #1 in our new hellworld.
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Dec 15, 2019 03:38
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Sadiq Khan is an rear end and I hope he loses
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Chuka Umana posted:Sadiq Khan is an rear end and I hope he loses Consider what kind of far-right freak will be running against him, though.
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Yeah, I don't love Khan but I love him 100x more than whatever hypercapitalist "race realist" he's going to be running against.
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Tory candidate has been selected. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaun_Bailey
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winegums posted:Our next political battle is mayor of london in May 2020. I know Katie Hopkins seems keen to try to oust him. Can't see London electing a Tory mayor given the how red the city has gone. I guess this is the grounds of battle #1 in our new hellworld. Katie Hopkins is keen to oust anyone with a slightly more tan complexion than her from any position they occupy in the country, from the political class all the way down to the family next door. She's an evil loving oval office who shouldn't even be referenced for any reason, by any person except as a cautionary lesson in what the absolute worst of humanity looks like. The sooner the world forgets she exists the better.
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Fumble posted:Got my tribunal results, despite one of the most hostile environments I have ever been in, they managed to find an extra 14 points in mobility that atos missed. I'm so pleased for you, and am glad to say I've got the CAB on board for my tribunal whenever that is (cue Tory policy to cancel or charge for them) I know that you'll probably still be feeling raw from the experience but if you feel able, it would help me to prepare if you could explain a bit more about the hostile environment in the tribunal. My CAB adviser gave me the impression that it's a fairly gentle fact-finding process, so it would be good to know if that's a bunch of bullshit.
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History Comes Inside! posted:Katie Hopkins is keen to oust anyone with a slightly more tan complexion than her from any position they occupy in the country, from the political class all the way down to the family next door. She's got a wide on for Islamophobia atm and she's even making coy little winks about liking India to try and mask the racism but it's transparent as gently caress to anyone that knows what's happening in India atm. I have zero doubt she is suddenly noisy again because someone is using her as a useful mouthpiece. We left do love to retweet in anger the message the right want to put in front of many eyes as possible, after all. (We need to loving stop doing this, seriously). Part of me would love jessflaps to get the leadership because gently caress me would she soon find out what the media will do with a white brummie woman, but that's not very socialist of me and ffs the membership isn't about to disappear, the next leader will be a decent pick. NinpoEspiritoSanto fucked around with this message at 04:21 on Dec 15, 2019 |
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I'm sure we're all ready for a pretend working class person to take the reigns
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Can't wait for the media to welcome "Momentum's choice for leader" with open arms
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Jose posted:poo poo like this is extremely grim Gabrielle Kent was one of my lecturers at university. Glad to see she’s still alright.
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I think you'll find labour is still institutionally anti Semitic, and will be forever
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Continuity RCP posted:I think you'll find labour is still institutionally anti Semitic, and will be forever Yeah this attack line isn't going to go away so the left need to formulate a strategy for it that isn't "well actually" followed by expecting someone to read a google doc. A literal better strategy would be "that's a lie, you know it, gently caress off".
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The antisemitism line appeals because it bullies us with the same kind of threat that your angry white man feels when we call him racist or sexist or whatever rule of woke he broke. They love that we have been on the policed side of a new political correctness. Our fight to dismiss antisemitism is punishment for their fight to dismiss all else. Worse, it's a demonstration of power, because they have a leader who does not need to shake any claims against them whatsoever. It hurts, and they know it does, and you know the kind of person this appeals to will only have one thing to say: problem? During the praxiscast stream in the election, we were all reeling from the exit poll wondering if it could possibly be right. When a Lab to Con turnaround of 8000 votes came through the airwaves, it confirmed our fears. I remember typing a short while after then, as more dire results came in. "we are collectively being taken to the headmaster's office and being told we can't have nice things."
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stev posted:Does anyone have any good left/political angry metal bands to recommend? I need to vent and my usual stuff isn't doing it for me. Late but: Dawn Ray’d
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Bedtime for me but a final thought for the day, comrades: poo poo sucks, but the fight continues. We've just lost a battle, a key battle, that hurt, but not a battle that has cost us the war. We are still in the fight. This was after all, a <2% vote swing, over the most polarising political issue in our lifetime that we had no chance of winning on. Centrism got absolutely no mandate whatsoever. Once we failed to moved the narrative from Brexit and have something that rang louder than "Get Brexit Done", it was over. There are lessons we can learn, but now, we sleep, for tomorrow, another round begins and we begin it together. Solidarity.
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Plot twist: Boris is more left wing than Blair and Brown. Calling it right now. Save this post and come back to me in five years when I'll be proven right.
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We weren't wrong in our policies, in our desire to build a better world. If we give up on that dream the moment it looks difficult, we only let each other down. I believe in a socialist future. Think what it was like pre-Corbyn, when we had nowhere to call a political home. We're beaten but only for now. Let's take care of each other. And if it turns out we were fighting the long defeat, then let's at least fight it as hard as we can.
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Ha, on that front, here's another thought experiment for night crew: We let jessflips lead the party. She'll have been suitably monstered after 3 years in opposition that we can replace her with a left ticket for the upcoming GE and this gives the 1-2 combo of discrediting the "centre". There's no way a white brummie woman, even flips, is getting favourable press opposite Joris and we can enjoy some catharsis of the press doing to her what she was happy for them to do to Corbyn. While the press are engaged with Jess "me me me" Flaps, the left can prepare for 2024. Go.
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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/meet-boriss-babies-theyre-young-fun-and-working-class-qr59rrhrp quote:“I’m everything a Tory shouldn’t be,” says Dehenna Davison, the newly elected MP for Bishop Auckland, who grew up on a council estate in Sheffield, the daughter of a self-employed stonemason and a nursery nurse. Seems like Boris was able to topple the northern wall by running candidates that are "moderate." I think a lot of people were perhaps being hyperbolic about Boris on Thursday. We're about to have record LGBT representation in parliament.
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Chuka Umana posted:Seems like Boris was able to topple the northern wall by running candidates that are "moderate." I think a lot of people were perhaps being hyperbolic about Boris on Thursday. We're about to have record LGBT representation in parliament.
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e: ^^ Hopkins is already mouthing off so that ship is sailing as we speak if you want to see if any moderate bame/lgbt Tories give a poo poo. (They won't) Chuka Umana posted:https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/meet-boriss-babies-theyre-young-fun-and-working-class-qr59rrhrp Collaborators. NinpoEspiritoSanto fucked around with this message at 05:50 on Dec 15, 2019 |
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Bundy posted:e: ^^ Hopkins is already mouthing off so that ship is sailing as we speak if you want to see if any moderate bame/lgbt Tories give a poo poo. (They won't) Are you a collaborator if you're actually a member of the party?
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I had a fleeting thought a couple of weeks amidst the coverage of the polls and our "unskewing of the polls".We are hillarying ourselves into a loss but when you have great hopes you can lie to yourself pretty well.Labour managed to triangulate into a project that gathered all the weakness of both camps, and none of its strenghts and led to catastrohe. Whatever they do moving forward they are going to need to find a way to avoid getting their leader bodied in the press.
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hump day bitches! posted:I had a fleeting thought a couple of weeks amidst the coverage of the polls and our "unskewing of the polls".We are hillarying ourselves into a loss but when you have great hopes you can lie to yourself pretty well.Labour managed to triangulate into a project that gathered all the weakness of both camps, and none of its strenghts and led to catastrohe. Hey you were right all along, congratu-loving-lations. Hope it keeps you warm while people are dying
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So how do all the goblins crowing about the fall of Corbyn view the New Labour years? Do they consider it a success just because Labour was in power?
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Tarnop posted:Hey you were right all along, congratu-loving-lations. Hope it keeps you warm while people are dying No it won't.Thousands are going to die and I cant do anything.Meanwhile the calls to return to literal national socialism are just out there. hump day bitches! fucked around with this message at 06:29 on Dec 15, 2019 |
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Zedhe Khoja posted:So how do all the goblins crowing about the fall of Corbyn view the New Labour years? Do they consider it a success just because Labour was in power? Yes, being in power is more important than human life.
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Apraxin posted:In all seriousness, if Brexit does get done and Farage decamps to the US when whatever he says he'll rebrand BXP to fizzles in the aftermath, returning most of the mad 'kippers to the Tory fold, it's going to be... interesting seeing how these diverse, hopeful fresh faces deal with the Katie Hopkins wing of the party returning to prominence. lmao the press are just going to go back to calling the farage types "fruitcakes and loonies" while people like JRM go to the back of the back benches to never be heard of again outside of bbc parliament. I think you're going to see an interesting cabinet reshuffle in February. believe me the press is going to go with the "boris the uniter! everyone loves him!" image for him over the next five years.
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Chuka Umana posted:lmao the press are just going to go back to calling the farage types "fruitcakes and loonies" while people like JRM go to the back of the back benches to never be heard of again outside of bbc parliament. I think you're going to see an interesting cabinet reshuffle in February. Most people like Boris or hate him, the press barrage is not going to change anyone mind. I Actually do think Boris will build a load of new hospitals - with the contracts going to his mates. I don't think he'll hire the staff needed to staff these new ghost hospitals....
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If you're building that many hospitals surely you're going to do something with them. Some kind of project to prove a point about healthcare. Something new and experimental about them. Did the plan ever say whether these hospitals were new NHS hospitals directly owned by the public? Or will this be an attempt to break the monopoly hospitals trusts have by allowing space for alternative service providers to put new capacity into the health market which the NHS trusts have the ability to commission should they need to. Azza Bamboo fucked around with this message at 07:33 on Dec 15, 2019 |
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Dec 15, 2019 07:27
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Yukmt: on the bright side our parliment is gayer than ever
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Yukmt: on the bright side our parliment is gayer than ever 
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big scary monsters posted:So hype that we're finally getting fully automated luxury gay space... capitalism!!? Get Gay brexit done.
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