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this poo poo always annoys me cuz you know it's some dork who says "SPORTSBALL" https://twitter.com/Chelsea_dots/status/1039208970806812673?s=20 plus it's like, yes that would also be annoying but at least it still isn't a children's fantasy book series wtf
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Vargo posted:The Harry Potter date one. call eric a hufflepuff and refuse to stop
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Dec 16, 2019 05:30
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My only personality trait is how weird my cat was.
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I also dont know if this is harry potter lady's fault but boy do there seem to be more numerous or at least more vocal British TERFs, right? Are they given more space in British politics or something? Not that American political discourse isnt incredibly transphobic of course.
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Dec 16, 2019 05:39
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Isn’t he a children’s fantasy writer himself and an agent, though? I mean, Harry Potter madness is kind of an occupational hazard for them.
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Punkin Spunkin posted:I also dont know if this is harry potter lady's fault but boy do there seem to be more numerous or at least more vocal British TERFs, right? Someone in another thread summarized it as there being some big british mother/parenting website, mumsnet or something? That became an online wine mom hangout, and much in the way that many other websites spiralled into naziism, it spiralled into terfdom, and it's the core of all of the terf stuff in the UK
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Punkin Spunkin posted:this poo poo always annoys me cuz you know it's some dork who says "SPORTSBALL" if anything, loving a bad team objectively shows more personality imo bc if you obsessively love a good team you probably just like winning without having to do anything
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CommonShore posted:Someone in another thread summarized it as there being some big british mother/parenting website, mumsnet or something? That became an online wine mom hangout, and much in the way that many other websites spiralled into naziism, it spiralled into terfdom, and it's the core of all of the terf stuff in the UK Throw all social media into the sun.
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As a  and recovering Potterhead I sympathize, but if someone hasn't seen any of these incredibly popular books or movies by now, there isn't much point in trying to force them to take an interest - much less make references they have no way of understanding. (I would not expect a non-fan to know what the hell a Hufflepuff is, any more than you should expect me to know what a point guard does.)
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Jurgan posted:It's a pretty common set of beliefs for Catholics. They believed they're required to look after the poor financially, but they also think abortion should be illegal. The problem, at least in the USA, is that you can't vote for issues independently, you have to vote for candidates, so they often end up choosing the right-wing candidates because the issue of abortion has been designed to override all other concerns. Most Catholics support abortion as a general concept, they get iffy when you say poo poo like "late term" or pretend babies are being aborted at birth.
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Skwirl posted:Most Catholics support abortion as a general concept, they get iffy when you say poo poo like "late term" or pretend babies are being aborted at birth. where? in the north middle maybe. se and sw no.
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CommonShore posted:Someone in another thread summarized it as there being some big british mother/parenting website, mumsnet or something? That became an online wine mom hangout, and much in the way that many other websites spiralled into naziism, it spiralled into terfdom, and it's the core of all of the terf stuff in the UK Additionally, feminist philosophy in Europe (and therefore the UK) is much more focused on a biological metaphysics than the cultural basis (and accompanying queer theory) in North America. That makes feminist institutions and discourse in the UK much less accepting of trans people, especially trans women.
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Skwirl posted:Most Catholics support abortion as a general concept, they get iffy when you say poo poo like "late term" or pretend babies are being aborted at birth. This is insanely inaccurate for non-Euro Catholics. Try talking to a Brazilian or Philippine Catholic about abortion.
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A lot of people against abortion seem to think abortion doctors are taking crying babies from their mother's arms and throwing them in the garbage can.
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RatHat posted:A lot of people against abortion seem to think abortion doctors are taking crying babies from their mother's arms and throwing them in the garbage can. yes, the anti-choice gang very strongly promotes gruesome unrealistic images of what abortion entails, because it suits their political agenda like the images of dismembered tiny hands and legs on all the posters -- abortions that late are essentially only performed out of necessity when the mother's life is in danger. but the protesters would love for you to believe that that's what happens every time. and they're loud enough that it works
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Sagebrush posted:yes, the anti-choice gang very strongly promotes gruesome unrealistic images of what abortion entails, because it suits their political agenda One time in high school a teacher hosed up and assigned me to debate against the Canadian seal hunt specifically using bad debate techniques such as appeal to emotion. It was supposed to teach us how to use proper debate techniques or something. My presentation was like three power point slides, each of which was a cute baby seal right next to a bloody seal carcass. I didn’t agree with the topic or the techniques, but I absolutely won the debate.
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Memento posted:This is insanely inaccurate for non-Euro Catholics. Try talking to a Brazilian or Philippine Catholic about abortion. I was specifically talking about American Catholics, and I apologize for not making that clear in my initial post.
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Arivia posted:One time in high school a teacher hosed up and assigned me to debate against the Canadian seal hunt specifically using bad debate techniques such as appeal to emotion. It was supposed to teach us how to use proper debate techniques or something. My presentation was like three power point slides, each of which was a cute baby seal right next to a bloody seal carcass. I didn’t agree with the topic or the techniques, but I absolutely won the debate. So you're pro seal hunting?
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Proteus Jones posted:So you're pro seal hunting? I mean, if you're going to allow any hunting at all how cute the baby animal is shouldn't play into its legality.
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Pththya-lyi posted:As a point guards are the hufflepuffs of the basketball team
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 Ah, yes, Big Pharma and the Kremlin both teamed up to push for trans rights by making donations to the fourth-largest party in the British Parliament.
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TinTower posted:
I mean, at least going red scare on it means they've moved on from the antisemitism of saying (((SOROS))) is funding the Trans Lobby™
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Skwirl posted:Most Catholics support abortion as a general concept, they get iffy when you say poo poo like "late term" or pretend babies are being aborted at birth. So what you’re saying is that they require the slightest pressure from the right to pull the lever against it.
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Platystemon posted:So what you’re saying is that they require the slightest pressure from the right to pull the lever against it. I'm not defending them or how they vote, I'm saying it's a stretch to call them anti-abortion.
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Antisemitism has lost all meaning as a word https://twitter.com/ConnerHabib/status/1206494277573971968?s=19 Conner is not the idiot.
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Mak0rz posted:What does "economically left but socially conservative" look like, exactly? Free healthcare for people who don't miscegenate? Here is a fnnish example of eceonomically left but socially conservative party. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finns_Party Spoilers, they are mostly selfish racists.
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Chazani posted:Here is a fnnish example of eceonomically left but socially conservative party. You've also got the Danish People's Party as an example. Racist as gently caress, and their "left-wing policies" mostly amount to "give more stuff to our elderly racist voters who keep us afloat," with zero consideration for education, poor people, healthcare, etc. Their winning strat for decades in a row has been to staunchly remain outside of government so they could just rake in points critiquing the ruling parties, but never themselves have any policies that could fail and thus be critiqued. The one time they formally joined a government, they got completely annihilated in the next elections(their number of seats got more than halved) because it revealed what ineffectual trashbaskets they were(and all of their corruption and misuse of EU funds got dragged into the light), and they spawned an off-shoot splinter racist party that damaged the Danish right wing. Said splinter party is run by this toadman-looking fucker:  And his party dragged votes away from the other right-wing parties but failed to clear the minimum needed for representation, probably because it came out that he'd been a creepy loving stalker towards at least one person, and then sued the guy he was stalking when he tried to keep Paludan at arm's length. He's also the kind of loud racist who can't be anywhere in public without doing poo poo that makes every right-thinking person want to brain him(like public Quran burnings, etc.), and thus keeping him from becoming a greasy stain on the asphalt has cost Denmark a shitload of money and police hours. It was a major public debate for a while whether he should just be allowed to get himself killed saying stupid poo poo to the wrong people.
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He looks like Boris Johnson but less slimy.
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TinTower posted:He looks like Boris Johnson but less slimy. He looks like he's either 16 or 60, and I don't believe any answer between those two numbers.
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Skwirl posted:I mean, if you're going to allow any hunting at all how cute the baby animal is shouldn't play into its legality. That too, but yes. The seal hunt is ecologically safe and critical to Indigenous people here, and it’s really frustrating that it gets so much flak for being humanely and thoughtfully done.
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Arivia posted:That too, but yes. The seal hunt is ecologically safe and critical to Indigenous people here, and it’s really frustrating that it gets so much flak for being humanely and thoughtfully done. There are too many people in the world and not enough seals. 
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Sunswipe posted:There are too many people in the world and not enough seals.
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Chazani posted:Here is a fnnish example of eceonomically left but socially conservative party. The TF aren't economically left lmao some of their base might be but the party absolutely isn't
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SiKboy posted:Sure, the part of the UK who voted against the tories en masse, voted to remain in the EU, have made it very clear that EU migrants (and others) have a home there, and who were protesting in the streets within 24 hours of fridge wankers election (including chants of “Say it loud, say it clear, refugees are welcome here.” in glasgow) is the racist part of the UK. Obviously. Scotland is averagely racist as part of the UK, but is it socially conservative, we have a lot of TERF's in Parliament, our ruling party expelled a trans town councillor for calling a TERF a TERF. We have big issues around social inclusion things like that. But we are more economically liberal, we favour a larger welfare state and things like that. Scotland is the poster boy for socially conservative and economically liberal, even though we had 3 1/2 gay party leaders at one point. That said a lot of our economically liberal comes from the government standing against Westminster and that always colours our politics here.
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Andrast posted:The TF aren't economically left lmao Please respect the way the self-identify! Current day TF is really far from economic left, that is true. But few years back they still has the old alkiolaisuus going for them.
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Punkin Spunkin posted:I also dont know if this is harry potter lady's fault but boy do there seem to be more numerous or at least more vocal British TERFs, right? It spread through social media and gets funding from conservative groups like the Christian Right. That didn't happen in the US because in the 2000's, black women started a very public criticism of racism and the marginalization of WOC in mainstream feminism, and it had the effect of pushing the entire movement leftward. US TERFs (and SWERFs) got squeezed out mainstream feminist discourse, and their buddies in the Christian Right had less resources to help them because established antipathy between them and US feminists over reproductive rights. The UK didn't have that leftward push and their feminists are still stuck in a very neoliberal form of feminist activism that TERFs are easily capitalizing on and spreading to women like Rowling who think of themselves as progressive on women's issues, but mostly just want to see women like them, affluent and white, secure their place in capitalism.
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Skwirl posted:Antisemitism has lost all meaning as a word The first one is a fairly boring hot take nowadays, but holy poo poo the take about how any ideology that isn't based on Liberation Theology is fascist is insane
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