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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:lol @ greta: hong kong deserves to be free because china emits too much greenhouse gas is quite the take
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Dec 16, 2019 13:57
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Too Big To Fail with Chinese characteristics
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Dec 16, 2019 14:24
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I am skeptical of some poo poo tier site named “Financial Times,” and it also doesn’t really specify if these people are convicted or if its pre-trial, if China uses jury trials or an innocent until proven guilty standard, and what % of them are serious crimes against other people versus minor crimes like the clerical “error” dude.
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Dec 16, 2019 17:17
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Lightning Knight posted:I am skeptical of some poo poo tier site named “Financial Times,” and it also doesn’t really specify if these people are convicted or if its pre-trial, if China uses jury trials or an innocent until proven guilty standard, and what % of them are serious crimes against other people versus minor crimes like the clerical “error” dude. financial times is a well known business paper from the UK. they are famous for being the salmon sheeted WSJ. this article feels like the usual expat journalism where some stringers come up with material while their writer stitches it together at the mandarin oriental
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Dec 16, 2019 17:23
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Lightning Knight posted:if China uses jury trials or an innocent until proven guilty standard lol
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Dec 16, 2019 18:18
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not every country in the western world has either of those things, so it’s not as if it’s a requirement. the Chinese legal system undoubtedly treats political opposition badly but I have seen little elaboration of what it’s like for the average person.
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Dec 16, 2019 18:27
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Lightning Knight posted:the Chinese legal system undoubtedly treats political opposition badly but I have seen little elaboration of what it’s like for the average person. The party with the most money and/or connections wins. If neither party have any, the legal system does absolutely nothing.
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Dec 16, 2019 18:34
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https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/3040650/chinas-top-prosecutor-urges-courts-cut-entrepreneurs-more-slack SCMP version of that article, published on December fifth. E: another similar article from the 13th https://scmp.com/news/china/policies-politics/article/2124212/chinese-prosecutors-back-leniency-entrepreneurs-tangled quote:The guidelines follow Chinese President Xi Jinping’s push to encourage and protect entrepreneurship, and his repeated warnings to officials against the dangers of corrupt business interests. Under the guidelines, all prosecutor’s offices had to foster an environment for entrepreneurs and their businesses, “strengthening their sense of personal and wealth security, and boosting confidence and providing incentives for businesspeople to innovate and start businesses”, the official Procuratorate Daily quoted a spokesman for the top prosecutor’s office as saying on Wednesday. Grapplejack has issued a correction as of 20:39 on Dec 16, 2019 |
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Dec 16, 2019 20:34
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Thinking China Bad is w/e, as like, functionally it doesn't matter. but thinking that it would be good if the chinese state collapsed like the USSR is insane
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Dec 16, 2019 20:38
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love how people demand sentencing reform domestically while attacking the prc for the same thing
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Dec 16, 2019 20:55
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crime in china: scared prisoners, uniforms, high stepping marching, prison bars crime in usa: stats, numbers fuckington, lines goes down. line go down. down line down 
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Dec 16, 2019 21:47
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dang thats all i need to know about crime
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Dec 16, 2019 21:53
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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:love how people demand sentencing reform domestically while attacking the prc for the same thing I mean the program as described isn’t really sentencing reform it’s preferential treatment for the business class which is actually dumb and bad. Like putting less people in jail is good but it shouldn’t be based on their perceived economic value to the system. They should extend these kinds of mercies to non-business criminals too. however this type of thing seems to be common in the criminal justice systems of developing countries and I’m thinking about how things that are taken for granted in developed countries as “the way things work” (such as the rich receiving preferential treatment in the criminal justice system) are treated as uniquely corrupt in the developing world
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Dec 16, 2019 21:53
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American justice system is doddering, racist and inept where sometimes dogs could be charged with crimes. By contrast, China’s system is straightforward and judicious. The judicial system, controlled by the working class, don’t play with words and adhere to the principle of based on facts. You will be arrested, sentenced and executed as long as the court determine that you killed someone.
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Dec 16, 2019 21:55
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American laws are gangster laws. They can come up with all variety of strange and absurd law cases.
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Dec 16, 2019 21:59
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Lightning Knight posted:I mean the program as described isn’t really sentencing reform it’s preferential treatment for the business class which is actually dumb and bad. I think the US should start executing CEOs occasionally when they deserve it. China gets that one right.
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Dec 16, 2019 22:18
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Spergin Morlock posted:I think the US should start executing CEOs occasionally when they deserve it. China gets that one right. i oppose the death penalty on moral grounds so i am a bad leftist
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Dec 16, 2019 22:19
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China is right, once again. They just keep winning it's crazy.
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Dec 16, 2019 22:24
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Lightning Knight posted:not every country in the western world has either of those things, so it’s not as if it’s a requirement. Plenty of countries even regard jury trails as unjust.
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Dec 17, 2019 01:22
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giving preferential treatment to business people in terms of prosecution sounds bad but uh these people are acting like this is some new thing that china invented obama refused to prosecute anyone in wall street for the financial crash using the exact same logic the really weird part is that most of the time rags like the financial times are making GBS threads on china for the exact opposite reason that china is too mean to white collar criminals and stifling the wisdom of the invisible hand so im not sure who this line of attack is even supposed to appeal to considering their target audience
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Dec 17, 2019 02:28
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I think we should compromise and enact some kind of Sharashka for those businessmen
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Dec 17, 2019 02:31
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Bourgeoisie good and deserve lesser prison sentences as job creators, capitalism wins again
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Dec 17, 2019 02:37
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https://twitter.com/hkguy1988/status/1206743048945721346
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Dec 17, 2019 03:16
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Spergin Morlock posted:I think the US should start executing CEOs occasionally when they deserve it. China gets that one right. This is good but literally only ever happens in China to enrich other CEOs
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Dec 17, 2019 03:43
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Lightning Knight posted:i oppose the death penalty on moral grounds so i am a bad leftist I will settle for LOCKING THEM UP
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Dec 17, 2019 04:29
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is there a halfway decent claim of protester killed by hk police or is it still a combination of 'well of course the police kills protesters by the score and there's somehow no evidence of it' and 'some dude slipped and fell, their bloodlust knows no bounds!'
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Dec 17, 2019 04:49
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uninterrupted posted:is there a halfway decent claim of protester killed by hk police or is it still a combination of 'well of course the police kills protesters by the score and there's somehow no evidence of it' and 'some dude slipped and fell, their bloodlust knows no bounds!' There is zero evidence the HKPF has killed anyone so far. The protestors tried to astroturf an alleged massacre in the subway but even the western media wasn't buying that one.
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Dec 17, 2019 04:51
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one time on hong kong protest twitter i saw a video where a swat team guy kicks a protestor on the ground in the leg a few times and then the guy next to him makes him knock it off it was the only remotely violent thing in the whole two minute video but the responses were acting like theyd just seen the rodney king beating
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Dec 17, 2019 06:08
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Some Guy TT posted:giving preferential treatment to business people in terms of prosecution sounds bad but uh these people are acting like this is some new thing that china invented obama refused to prosecute anyone in wall street for the financial crash using the exact same logic
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Dec 17, 2019 06:45
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whats going on in xinjiang
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Dec 17, 2019 13:05
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not gonna lie its pretty funny that hong kong protestors would rather describe themselves as jews than ever stop to think they could more credibly apply that label to the ughyurs and still be able to call china bad
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Dec 17, 2019 13:07
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gradenko_2000 posted:I will settle for LOCKING THEM UP The problem with this line of thinking is that it let's the bosses off the hook after you've supposedly done a revolution and killed their footsoldiers. You might say it's giving them.... preferential treatment for being rich
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Dec 17, 2019 17:50
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lmao 
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Dec 17, 2019 18:42
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??? Too fast?
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Dec 17, 2019 18:43
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China has chad carbon ion radiation therapy and the US uses virgin proton therapy
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Dec 17, 2019 19:06
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Cao Ni Ma posted:??? "Going too fast" is a euphemism for recklessly killing people in medical reporting.
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Dec 17, 2019 19:12
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Lightning Knight posted:I am skeptical of some poo poo tier site named “Financial Times,” and it also doesn’t really specify if these people are convicted or if its pre-trial, if China uses jury trials or an innocent until proven guilty standard, and what % of them are serious crimes against other people versus minor crimes like the clerical “error” dude. Google "Michael Spavor" and "Michael Kovig".
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Dec 18, 2019 02:20
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https://twitter.com/ChineseBot2B/status/1207019748103356416?s=20
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Dec 18, 2019 02:59
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The phrase "不同程度的受到了宗教極端" in that sentence places the verb (受到了, to suffer) in a strange place. The phrase in red is the correct way to write it.
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Dec 18, 2019 03:10
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thank you for remembering that most of us cant read chinese
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Dec 18, 2019 03:13
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