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Edward IV posted:From the Raspberry Pi thread. It's nautical and there is certain degrees of insanity involved so I though of this thread. Oh hi, I was redirected to this thread from the spaceflight Megathread Is this mostly about boring rear end powerboats? I've been thinking about starting a sailing specific thread for ages. I do bay sailing and offshore costal racing. I could care less about soulless powerboats. Fight me.
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Nah this is about sailboats too.
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Hadlock posted:Oh hi, I was redirected to this thread from the spaceflight Megathread Na, I wanna hear some costal racing stories. I race on lakes/giant rivers in a shark24.
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Hadlock posted:Oh hi, I was redirected to this thread from the spaceflight Megathread We do sailboats here too. I don't thing a sailing specific thread would get decent traffic.
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Hadlock posted:soulless powerboats 
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Neslepaks posted:God such squalor. A sea hobo. Yeah, I can smell his boat through the Internet. Hats off though, his pilot is super impressive stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbezaHPm_MU
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Hadlock posted:Oh hi, I was redirected to this thread from the spaceflight Megathread I'm pretty sure I get to make the rule since I started this thread, so gently caress yeah post sailboats. Its not like ya'll weren't postin sailboats before, but stull. Official position is a hearty inclusive all boats welcome. gently caress, even kayaks, I ain't care.  I very much enjoy reading about boats powered by all kinds of things, even if my boat burns dead dinosaurs for power.
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Hadlock posted:Oh hi, I was redirected to this thread from the spaceflight Megathread Summarily execute powerboaters who don't give 100 feet right of way to sailboats.
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Love to immediately hit full throttle right out of the harbor and cause a huge wake in my POWER BOAT.
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Popete posted:Love to immediately hit full throttle right out of the harbor and cause a huge wake in my POWER BOAT. I'll never not go wot the second I pass the no wake sign.  (I still slow down and minimize my wake around smaller sailboats, john boats and other stuff. Going fast is fun, but being polite to other people on the water is super awesome too. Specially when its the tiniest boats. They're so cute.  )
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Hey thread, if I wanted to tow a boat of 25 or fewer feet, what magnitude of truck/SUV/pullerthing must I contemplate? Is there is a sweet spot in price/performance in that category? I'm looking to buy a vehicle after some years of carlessness and I have no idea what's good, and "pulling a boat" is one of my requirements. We'll worry about the boat a little later :heh:
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If we’re going on stereotypes: What’s the deal with powerboaters taking forever at the launch ramp? I sailed a sunfish a few times this summer and I’d launch, sail out to the windy part of the lake, eat the boom a few times and come back in with a case of heatstroke and the same folks are still standing on the finger dock. jk I know the answer is lovely families - hence the sunfish Eta: Kesper North posted:Hey thread, if I wanted to tow a boat of 25 or fewer feet, what magnitude of truck/SUV/pullerthing must I contemplate? Is there is a sweet spot in price/performance in that category? I'm looking to buy a vehicle after some years of carlessness and I have no idea what's good, and "pulling a boat" is one of my requirements. My 22’ sailboat is like 3,500 on its tandem-axle trailer. I was hoping I could tow it with a sedan, but after seeing how big/long of a trailer it is I went with a 1/2-ton, V8 pickup. I also do my sailing 3,000’ above my driveway so if you’re staying in flat ground you could probably do with less. monsterzero fucked around with this message at 19:41 on Dec 16, 2019 |
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Comedy option: Crown Victoria. If you want serious recommendations, I think we're going to need more info than that. Powerboats aren't the same weight/length as sailboats, for example. A half-ton truck made sometime in the last 30 years will probably be fine. Truck or not, you'll probably be happier if you have AWD/4WD, as when backing in a trailer your rear tires can get wet and lose some traction, so it's nice to have the front helping out as well. Despite what dudebro in the suburbs will tell you, you do not need an F3500 crew cab diesel with a six foot lift.
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Kesper North posted:Hey thread, if I wanted to tow a boat of 25 or fewer feet, what magnitude of truck/SUV/pullerthing must I contemplate? Is there is a sweet spot in price/performance in that category? I'm looking to buy a vehicle after some years of carlessness and I have no idea what's good, and "pulling a boat" is one of my requirements. Mainly you are concerned about stopping power, so electric brakes on the trailer = good, especially if you're in a hilly area. We towed a J/24 (24') all over relatively flat Texas each year as part of a racing circuit. Most owners had an F250 class truck. Not for the towing capacity, but the braking capacity. Plan for doing a panic stop at highway speeds in a length less than it takes a 747 to land. The truck we used in particular was a V8 2008 Dodge Durango. All up trailer + boat weight was 3400 lbs.
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Kesper North posted:Hey thread, if I wanted to tow a boat of 25 or fewer feet, what magnitude of truck/SUV/pullerthing must I contemplate? Is there is a sweet spot in price/performance in that category? I'm looking to buy a vehicle after some years of carlessness and I have no idea what's good, and "pulling a boat" is one of my requirements. Also, what sort of towing are you planning to do regularly? For example, my dad's 24' speedboat weighs about 5,000lbs which was (barely) fine for my Jeep Cherokee because the boat launch was a mile down a flat road.
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monsterzero posted:If we’re going on stereotypes: What’s the deal with powerboaters taking forever at the launch ramp? Launching my parents' electric boat feels like it takes half an hour or more. Gotta lower the lift, put up the top, rewire the batteries to the motor instead of the charger, put the coolant in, and a bunch of other stuff I'm forgetting. Closing it up seems to take just as long too.
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Kesper North posted:Hey thread, if I wanted to tow a boat of 25 or fewer feet, what magnitude of truck/SUV/pullerthing must I contemplate? Is there is a sweet spot in price/performance in that category? I'm looking to buy a vehicle after some years of carlessness and I have no idea what's good, and "pulling a boat" is one of my requirements. Yeah, without knowing what kind of boat you want, there's a huge range in boat weights even within the same size class. For example, the dry hull for my Scout 172 Sportfish is only 900lbs, where a Cape Horn 17 of a similar vintage is 1400lbs, and that's before adding motors, fuel, gear, etc. Granted, under 25 feet, you should be fine with just about any full sized pickup, as others have said. boxen posted:Comedy option: Crown Victoria. Honestly, this was my uncle's tow vehicle for years for his 17 foot Negus. Granted, it's not that big, and wood hulled, and pretty light. His mid 2000s Crown Vic got totalled a few years back, so his current tow vehicle is a 1998 Lincoln Town Car.  Cocoa Crispies posted:Launching my parents' electric boat feels like it takes half an hour or more. Gotta lower the lift, put up the top, rewire the batteries to the motor instead of the charger, put the coolant in, and a bunch of other stuff I'm forgetting. Closing it up seems to take just as long too. All of that should be done on the trailer, and not at the boat ramp though.
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n0tqu1tesane posted:... With the caveat that I'd definitely want 4wd for a tow vehicle for anything heavy, especially if it's a pickup doing the pulling. I’ve seen too many people have trouble one they get their light rear end over some wet algae. Granted, that was in Atlanta... n0tqu1tesane posted:... My biggest boating pet peeve is when I pull off to the side so I can fiddle with straps etc without blocking the ramp, and someone will pull past me so they can park on the ramp to do all that crap. That and people who leave their docking lights on like headlights.
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Leaving the dock in my Sonic 23 when the stepmom is around: 45 minutes Leaving the dock when it’s just me and my dad: 10 minutes
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....Is.... is there not a smaller option than a full-sized pickup?  This might be a nonstarter, because I would go insane if I had to use an F-150 as a daily driver car. Perhaps what I want to do is buy the trailer and rent a truck when I need to move the boat, but I don't know if you can rent trucks for towing now that I think about it. I live in the Puget Sound. We have a common sort of utility powerboat used for recreational fishing and getting around in the San Juans that usually has a fiberglass or aluminum hull and a small enclosed cabin to keep the weather off. Larger versions might have a berth, but most just have a primitive head in the bow. There's a few widely known local manufacturers of such boats, none of whom I can think of off the top of my head right now, but that's the sort of thing I mean.
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You can go for a "compact" pickup, but I'd limit myself to v6 engines only if the boat weighs over 2k lbs fully loaded including trailer. Nothing like watching a 4 banger 2wd ranger absolutely roast his rear tires trying to pull a boat out of a steep wet boat ramp.  My 17.5' action craft is an absolute pig, but my 2wd avalanche with a 5.3 v8 handled it well. I mea, towing it frequently probably contributed to my transmission exploding along with a lack of maintenance, but thats my own stupidity there. If I was to look at an "Ideal" vehicle for my own use, I'd probably look for a taco or 4runner with a 4.0. Maybe a 3.4 if price was more of an object.
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 This is my dad's 24' boat with a 496 back when I used to pull it with my Cherokee. He now has an H3 he uses for towing his ~5,000lb boat. I'd trust pretty much any V8 Grand Cherokee* to do a better job than my regular straight six Cherokee. At the very least, there are options aside from pickup trucks that won't necessarily pull as well but will work well enough and I'd rather live with when I'm not towing. *There was a V-8 Jeep made that was known for overheating and dropping its valves into the cylinder.
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...Yeaaaah maybe I'll buy the Cherokee off my dad after all. It's got a 5.7 liter V8 diesel. Thanks for the tips, this gives me a place to start. * Thankfully it's not that Cherokee.
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Wait, chrysler has never made a 5.7L diesel as far as I'm aware and I think I've sold parts for every motor ever put in a jeep. (Yes, including the rare af diesel ones.) Even if its the hemi 5.7, it'll be more than enough to scoot along with a boat on the rear end end.
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Elmnt80 posted:Wait, chrysler has never made a 5.7L diesel as far as I'm aware and I think I've sold parts for every motor ever put in a jeep. (Yes, including the rare af diesel ones.) Yeah, IIRC it's a Hemi. I know NOTHING about car engines. Do they call them hemis because they've had a hemispherectomy, or....?
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Just want to mention there's a pretty big difference between towing capacity limits on the same vehicle in the EU and in the US. We measure things differently... and assign towing capacity differently. Just like we measure Octane differently and you can't compare Octane ratings in the US to those in the EU without busting out a calculator. (No, the gas isn't "worse" in the US, get out your calculator) It's something you have to keep in mind on a forum like this with so, so many EU folks: US versions of the same vehicle "tow less weight" with the US regulations despite having the same towing capacity. I'm not sure how much of a difference the individual vehicles can haul, but in the US a lot of vehicles are certified to haul less weight than the same vehicle in the EU. So, in the US, everything get's hauled by trucks, even if a sedan would do.
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Kesper North posted:....Is.... is there not a smaller option than a full-sized pickup? Chevy Colorado/GMC Canyon can be bought with a 4 cylinder 2.8l diesel rated to tow 7,700lbs and get 34mpg when not towing. I drive a Canyon and it's the perfect size truck. Having said that, if you have the room, you could just buy a used pickup for a thousand bucks and not use it as your daily driver.
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Kesper North posted:Yeah, IIRC it's a Hemi. I know NOTHING about car engines. Do they call them hemis because they've had a hemispherectomy, or....? The original ones had hemispherical domed pistons to bump up compression and make more power. The current ones use it as a backronym for high energy multiple ignition, meaning its got dual spark plugs on each cylinder. People recognize the hemi name because ~legacy~ and buy it. Then poo poo themselves when they have to buy 16 $10 spark plugs.
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Kesper North posted:We'll worry about the boat a little later :heh: Recommending a tow vehicle for a yet-to-be-determined tow load is a bit like throwing darts in the dark, which is why you're getting pickup recommendations - a half-ton will give you a bit of extra margin to work with. I'd suggest you pick a boat that you might want to buy in the future and use its weight (with trailer) as a guide when looking at truck/suv towing capacity. A couple of points (North American): 1) Spend some time getting familiar with Gross Vehicle Weight Rating and Gross Combined Vehicle Weight Rating. Remember that vehicles are assumed empty for these ratings, any passengers and gear must be included in weight calculations. It's surprising how much four people and their fishing gear can add up. Also, all manufacturers lie or at least stretch the truth - read the manual carefully. 2) Tongue weight is critical if you don't want to end up upside down in a ditch. For boat trailers it's recommended at 5-10% of the trailer weight, so a 3500 lb rig needs to be exerting 175 - 350 pounds on the hitch, which needs to be subtracted from what you can carry in the tow vehicle. When I trailered small boats for a living I bought a tongue gauge so I wouldn't have to guess every time the boat and its cargo changed. This is why I was paranoid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2fkOVHAC8Q If you aren't changing your boat and load regularly you can do the same thing with a set of bathroom scales. You need to do it at least once though. I took delivery of a new 5,000 pound boat with trailer and noticed some odd vibrations travelling the highway on the way home. I pulled in to a weigh scale and found that the yard had set up the trailer with only 40 pounds of tongue weight. I tried not to take it personally. 3) Get to know the hitch classes and whether your intended tow vehicle can be fitted with the right hitch. Maybe a Class II will do it, but maybe you need a Class III? 4) Trailer brakes are of the devil. Your jurisdiction probably requires them for something that size but if you're dunking them in salt water they will rust in the yard if the boat is sitting or corrode to pieces if the boat is used regularly. Keep up with the maintenance, test before you leave the yard, and pray they'll be there when you need them, especially if your vehicle is a little undersized. Or go and buy a 3/4 ton pickup with a Class IV hitch and you should be good to go. Love the Aussies and their dash cams. Looks like a typical weight distribution problem in action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqpPpaOe-bg
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This is gold. Thank you.
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Kesper North posted:....Is.... is there not a smaller option than a full-sized pickup? If you don't mind going a little older, the Chevy Trailblazer has a 5,000lb tow rating. It's what I use to haul my boats around. 
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Is there a gizmo to put the earmuffs on a small motor without having to hang out over the back of the boat? The lower in question is a Tohatsu 35:
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If there’s room you can try easing the bow out and use another line on the starboard stern to angle the transom toward the dock enough to reach it?
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Crossposting from the OSHA thread: https://i.imgur.com/0tk4Qol.mp4 Anyone know the story here?
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Its probably used cars from Japan being transported to Russia. Open deck transport on non-car carriers seems common over there. That said, that dump truck near the front looks suspiciously american. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoNMZ-m7yL8
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Towchat: A friend of mine has a 1987 24 foot Formula I/O (that lunched the motor and hasn't been in the water in ~5 years at least) but whenever he towed it - up to ~2014 or so - he used a basically bone stock 1975 Caprice convertible.  I'm not sure if he has trailer brakes or not. I had to pull the car + trailer off a slimy boat ramp once, and I was terrified it would catch an algae patch and put the car in the water. Given the propensity for those to rot to pieces regardless of circumstances, plus the fact that he was using it to launch his boat in salt, I'm not sure how the car isn't a miserable pile of rust at this point. He still has it.
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Can't believe all of you suckers who sink your own money into the pit that is boats. The real move is to live in an area with a publicly-owned boat.  This is the Belle of Louisville, a fully-functioning hundred-year-old government-owned steam-powered riverboat.There are only 4 steam-powered sternwheelers in the United States and the Belle is the only one which was built back when Steamboats were actually in relatively common-use. The other three are the Natchez in New Orleans which is far more famous and profitable, the Champaqua princess in Upstate New York and the Minnie-ha-ha also in Upstate New York. The boat was built in 1914 as a cargo boat but the engines are from 1880s because back then most boats were built with wood hulls. When the boat started to rot they would strip out everything important and expensive and recycle it in a new boat. Because its steam-powered and has such an ancient engine its enormously expensive to take it out. It burns something like 400 gallons per hour but once the engines heated up it can go down to like 30 per hour. Of course by then the cruise is over. The city has a newer boat with electric engines that defrays the cost of the Belle. BIG FLUFFY DOG fucked around with this message at 22:40 on Jan 14, 2020 |
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J24 + tools for making her hoistable at City Marina, Charleston. 
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