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Hmmm who do we blame over the commercialization of our holidays? A morally corrupt financial world structure, or brown people? I don’t know guys I guess it’s just not possible to draw a definite conclusion that isn’t justifying racism.
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SplitSoul posted:Like, right this minute, there's a debate over whether it's the Muslims' fault some stores are marketing vintermedister. Raging about vintermedister is the most danish thing to do
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SplitSoul posted:Like, right this minute, there's a debate over whether it's the Muslims' fault some stores are marketing vintermedister. How does a person look at a packet of pork sausage and conclude "I see it says winter instead of Christmas, clearly this is to make it appeal to Muslims"?
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Easy-Bake Coven posted:How does a person look at a packet of pork sausage and conclude "I see it says winter instead of Christmas, clearly this is to make it appeal to Muslims"? These are not particularly clever people, that's why they vote DF.
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Easy-Bake Coven posted:How does a person look at a packet of pork sausage and conclude "I see it says winter instead of Christmas, clearly this is to make it appeal to Muslims"? Incredibly *bland* pork sausage.
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Rust Martialis posted:Incredibly *bland* pork sausage. You're getting the wrong kind, then. It supposed to be tasty, but It's not supposed to be an orgy of spices, it's just a pork sausage. You never eat it just by itself (unless you're raiding the fridge for cold leftovers), there's always mustard and pickled beetroot or red cabbage or creamed cabbage or sauce and potatoes.
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Crisp pork sausage, strong mustard, and my mother's pickled beetroot - what a way to get an erection.
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V. Illych L. posted:an interesting point here is that everybody loves the libraries - they're legitimately the most popular institution in norway, at least. this means that directly and openly attacking them is very difficult, hence the whining about core tasks etc And boy do we know how to use that popularity to our advantage when necessary, believe me. There have been rumblings in my local municipality about us for a while, but somehow it never goes anywhere because the moment it crops up again, we start talking openly about how we'll have to cut back on opening-hours or services if they gently caress any more with the budget. It's just really loving draining to have that fight every so often. Also also, if anyone tries to start limiting who gets to borrow books based on ethnicity, you're going to see a secondary, off-the-books, clandestine library system pop up so fast it'll make your head spin. Pretty much every other librarian I've ever met is in this job because we believe, religiously, that everyone should have access to literature, movies, art, and knowledge, for free, and we're not going to let mere racist laws stop us.
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stavanger municipality just cut two million from their library while giving them greater responsibilities. the centre and left have taken over: i suppose we'll see how hard Sølvberget can fight
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Easy-Bake Coven posted:How does a person look at a packet of pork sausage and conclude "I see it says winter instead of Christmas, clearly this is to make it appeal to Muslims"?
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How is it that I can get a burger with bacon on it at kebab shops?
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Sometimes it's turkey bacon
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Yes, in that they're Turks putting bacon my hamburger. note: There are kebab shops in Bergen, where I live, but somehow none of them can make a good or even decent kebab, with a couple of exceptions, none of which are really in the city center, which is why I buy hamburgers. That this is so is a persistent mystery to me. Randarkman fucked around with this message at 16:38 on Dec 6, 2019 |
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https://www.gp.se/debatt/d%E4rf%F6r...ZFn9ctUxDfzrMVw To the surprise of no one (and I also predicted this based on BRÅ2005)
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MiddleOne posted:Did you actually read the article past the headline...?
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Joined SP today. Don`t know how involved i will be but i am happy to hand out pamphlets and knock on doors when the times come for that. It`s lovely work but nothing i haven`t done before.
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This the funniest case of mistranslating an expression I have ever seen. https://twitter.com/PJMedia_com/status/1205883904906977280?s=19
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MiddleOne posted:This the funniest case of mistranslating an expression I have ever seen. Comrade Greta.
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Baudolino posted:Joined SP today. lovely work for a lovely party.
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Alhazred posted:lovely work for a lovely party.
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MiddleOne posted:This the funniest case of mistranslating an expression I have ever seen. This is great
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Baudolino posted:Joined SP today. *why*
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V. Illych L. posted:*why* "EU er dorlig  "
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Their ownership of the decentralistion issue and their agricultural policy. Political affilations are like clothes we put on or discard depending on the season and the climate. Rigth now SP`s policies on these issues are what`s needed. While SP is not (yet?) a anti-immigration party they are also less enthusiactic about liberalizing the immigration system than the other opposition parties. In the event that the current goverment loses it majority i want SP to be included in the new goverment for this reason. Every party has some major doo doo in their political programs but the doo doo in SP`s program don`t smell so bad to me. Their mink farm policy is morally abhorrent, but since were going to need every job we can keep our hands own as we transition away from oil and gas i am willing to defend it. Beggars can`t be choosers and that is what we will be reduced to in my lifetime. The anti-predator hysteria is bit a lol, but if this what they have to beleive to get votes then so be it. I want to work towards SP including a national gurantee for sufficent housing for adults with severe mental/physical handicaps no matter where they live in their offical program. Rigth now that varies a lot. So you end up with aging parents working themselves to death caring for their adult children. That`s not rigth. A family should`nt have to relocate to get sufficent help. It`s an issue that lends itself naturally to SP`s brand of local populism. Krf are actually very good on this issue, but i loving detest their entire ethos. Never ever would i join them. Under the current leadership they can be relied on to priotize Kulturkampf issues over social spending anyhow. SV is also alrigth on this one issue but there is too much i disagre with to join. I am a soft eurosceptic so i am not in favor of leaving the EEA, but the EEA question is politically dead anyway so that`s irrelevant. I would definetivly quit if SP along with others managed to get a plebiciste on "Noxit" passed. Buts that`s about as likely as child porn being legalized so i am not too worried.
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lol AP loving hates immigrants what are you on about and being the lobby of intensely unprofitable and ecologically damaging farming is complete crap i'll give you the decentralisation issue; that's a big draw for a lot of people, and SP does seem to genuinely believe in it to some extent. still, even AP is slowly pivoting away from the regional and municipal reform nonsense these days. this is all in the wind. norwegian agricultural policy - the thing that SP will never compromise on, unlike literally everything else - is *poo poo* and has been poo poo forever. we're deliberately overproducing all sorts of poo poo and eroding our soil for ??? reason (the reason is that farmers want to keep doing what they're doing, being incredibly conservative for all sorts of reasons) instead of just pushing through a reform that takes environmental sustainability and mobilisable land over unit production SP is a reactionary populist party. they're on the left bloc purely because they want to pick up disaffected AP voters from the periphery, and because they've realised that current conservative ideology wants everything that cannot pay for itself must go. make no mistake; once they lose an election and go all-in on Johnsonian toryism they're going to be *very* tempted to flip. finally, SP is going to fight tooth and nail against any transition away from petroleum industry because they're conservative. i actually don't think we ought to actively close the sector down, but SP is going to double the gently caress down, to the detriment of other prospective industries because that is literally the whole point of the party since it was founded. also being pro-EEA is crazy. either be pro-EU or anti - the EEA is about the worst of both worlds, especially now that they're actually cracking down on the leeway we've been practicing thus far. tl;dr: SP is a rubbish party and you should leave it immediately
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V. Illych L. posted:lol AP loving hates immigrants what are you on about and being the lobby of intensely unprofitable and ecologically damaging farming is complete crap Yeah. SP is really entrenched with the rural vote and that's hard to turn around. That said, SP is not a left wing party, at least regionally, by a huge margin. It's the refuge of FRP hating conservatives, and it has a few core issues it owns that are popular: - centralizing public services is bad. Well fuckin duh, nobody in any sort of rural place wants to see services disappear. Small communities feel that loss keenly, and if the argument is that centralizing is "more efficient" then you're basically admitting that it's austerity in disguise. - farming is good. Yeah. The continuing demonization of norwegian agriculture doesn't find purchase among all people, least of all rural voters and farmers. It's commonly accepted (and to be honest I can see why) that when the green parties and other left sources wail over cow farts in the comparatively tiny norwegian farming sector and suggest we should all go vegan to an emaciated industry that makes less money each year and gets older and older and more conservative since nobody young is willing to do that poo poo of a job, it's not going to get taken seriously. Farmers protect eachother, and will continue to vote sp so long as nobody else is willing to take their issues seriously. - power is good. Sp will jump at any chance at local power every time, no matter what. This is particularly effective in rural municipalities which gives them majorial and governmental cred and exposure. Tl;dr: SP owns a number of key issues and are smart about it, even if the potential is limited. Also, let's not pretend we can simply "reform" farming. The sector is hosed in terms of olds, conservatives and capitalism. Squeezed between constant new standards, price gouging by the retail mono/ duo/ trioploies and competition from food imports, the sector needs a revolution, but one that preserves our ability to make food in volume (because I don't trust international markets for our food supply).
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I don't believe for a second that they joined SP and is looking to work for them because they're good on climate or whatever. FrP voter with penchant for trolling / elaborate rhetorical framings just seems more likely.
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Holy poo poo, did I oversleep and wake up in Denmark? https://www.migrationsverket.se/Pri...get-boende.html
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Nice piece of fish posted:Sp stuff I am not 100% sure about the accuracy of this, but I get the impression that it's mostly the smaller scale farmers in the West and such who are solidly Sp. I grew up in Lier, which is between Drammen and Oslo, and is pretty much the municipality with the best agricultural soil and climate conditions in the entire country, perhaps most known for producing apples and strawberries (and increasingly now, alcohol products), but is also responsible for something like two thirds or more of Norway's vegetable production, especially cabbage (the place has a very distinct smell at times because of this, as in it smells like farts). As far as I have experienced, Sp has a very small presence in Lier, and the farmers there are staunch H-voters and typically very wealthy, owning large tracts of extremely productive agricultural land. e: I don't have the link handy, but there was an article on NRK a couple of weeks ago which looked at the opposition parties alternate budget proposals, and I think that one served as a pretty good illustration of how Sp really is not a left-wing party, whereas there's quite a few similarities between Ap, SV and R who all wanted to increase revenues with increased taxation, with SV and R differentiating from Ap by essentially just wanting more taxation, especially income and property, and less tolls and other regressive forms of taxation, Sp is essentially the opposite wanting reduced taxation on most areas compared to the H-Frp government. I was also kind of baffled by the statistics from MDG's proposals, those guys just loving love regressive taxes. Randarkman fucked around with this message at 10:30 on Dec 18, 2019 |
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yeah the SP ag people are mainly subsidy-dependent. to an extent, i can sympathise, but the way we're structuring the subsidies today is simply perverse and ends up with us having huge frozen storages of unsellable meat. those communities deserve better than to be stuck in this bizarre pantomime of useless overproduction. the biggest problem is that SP's actual answers to the problems of our time seems to be 'things are fine as they are, actually'. they've got no response at all to the need to e.g. strategically move away from our hosed-up automotive transportation, and though i agree that the measures taken to achieve it (toll roads etc) are often crap it really does need policy. SP got incredibly lucky when AP whipped for joining ACER, effectively signalling the abandonment of an active industrial policy in favour of EU market technocracy. that flipped entire communities; a big problem of the norwegian left is that they really do have little to offer people interested in industry or power generation. the trick, though, is that neither does SP, really, except for emphasising how bad it is that anything changes. according to them, no sector can ever be obsolete and no job should be lost. this would be fine if they went in for a full plan economy, but what they're actually proposing is simply to prop up obsolete industries in a market system with subsidies. it's completely insane
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i *get* that in 2019 'everything stays as it is' is a pretty attractive vision of norway, but it's entirely unrealistic for all sorts of reasons, from the demographic to the environmental to the basic need for us to renew our economy. SP proposes to freeze the country in amber and to use a great deal of public money to make that happen. this has positive sides, like opposing the government's idiot boondoggle reforms, but it's on sum a very bad policy because the world is changing and we badly need some vision for the future
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Groda posted:Holy poo poo, did I oversleep and wake up in Denmark? About loving time. Mind you, this have been pushed by high profile members from S for a long time. Also, the explanation for why we haven't got a new version of the infamous Brå2005 is pretty obvious now. http://liu.diva-portal.org/smash/re...8909&dswid=4854 A case of the road to hell is paved with good intentions and I wonder whether the rise of SD could have been stopped or minimised by taking appropriate measures instead of the naivety that have plagued Swedish immigration and integration policies.
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V. Illych L. posted:i *get* that in 2019 'everything stays as it is' is a pretty attractive vision of norway, but it's entirely unrealistic for all sorts of reasons, from the demographic to the environmental to the basic need for us to renew our economy. SP proposes to freeze the country in amber and to use a great deal of public money to make that happen. this has positive sides, like opposing the government's idiot boondoggle reforms, but it's on sum a very bad policy because the world is changing and we badly need some vision for the future Hell, I agree completely. It is completely the wrong plan and it's the one that appeals to boomers, so you better get used to white men pushing 50 (60 these days) to continue setting the agenda.
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Groda posted:Holy poo poo, did I oversleep and wake up in Denmark? The beauty of a four party compromise is that instead of no change at all you can get the worst change possible. How does this solve the issue of housing not being available outside of these areas you may ask? No answer, no plan. Just the glorious inadequate compromise that will gently caress people sideways. 
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Groda posted:Holy poo poo, did I oversleep and wake up in Denmark? You know what asylum seekers need after losing drat near everything? A slap in the face. Jfc I’m convinced these people live in an entirely different plane of existence.
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Cardiac posted:About loving time. quote:(...) En före detta anställd berättade exempelvis att hen tillsammans med lol jesus
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so that means I can be a cheapskate and post about posting instead of having some wit or spending any more on comedy avs for people. Which I'm also incapable of. Comedy.
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The way the housing market in sweden looks today EBO makes no sense, but this won't solve poo poo.
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"Jeg fortryder det ikke. Lad os nu kalde tingene, hvad de er, hvis man er neger, så er man neger, hvis man er perker, så er man perker, hvis man er indvandrer, så er man indvandrer." Cool, an MP and party leader openly and unapologetically using racial slurs on national TV.
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