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Postorder Trollet89 posted:I get what you're saying but Finns problem is waaay deeper than that. There's a cut scene in TLJ where Finn convinces a bunch of stormtroopers to rebell, but Phasma murks them to save face. Had they taken his character in that direction and given him a real purpose it could've been great.
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They just needed to find the right wording on the wish spell to convince the space dm
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Mat Cauthon posted:There's a cut scene in TLJ where Finn convinces a bunch of stormtroopers to rebell, but Phasma murks them to save face. Had they taken his character in that direction and given him a real purpose it could've been great. TLJ also has a deleted scene of Rose biting Huxs finger while he tries to shake her off like in some goofy saturday morning cartoon. But I agree, squandered potential. Postorder Trollet89 fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Dec 18, 2019 |
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wait does Palpitation say "I am all the senate!"?
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No, kind of wish he did since there was an unexplained massive crowd spectating him like the senate chambers in his Sith iTomb.
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parara posted:No, kind of wish he did since there was an unexplained massive crowd spectating him like the senate chambers in his Sith iTomb. Wait, what?
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With the emperor being arbitrarily resurrected (and what's to keep him from being brought back again after this movie?), I'm glad the films have come full circle to being as ridiculous as the old EU. Only disappointed we didn't get Luuke Skywalker and Luuuke Skywalker
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Was palpatine waiting for luke to die to come back or is the timing never explained
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Pollyanna posted:Wait, what? He stands in a large chamber akin to an arena or the senate chambers surrounding some spiky Sith throne, and there's an ominously chanting crowd of people with hoods.
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parara posted:No, kind of wish he did since there was an unexplained massive crowd spectating him like the senate chambers in his Sith iTomb. lol this owns
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George H.W. oval office posted:I don’t get why everyone suddenly disappears with the force. That was specifically mentioned by Qui Gon as this ultimate final level Jedi ability and now it’s taught the second week of Jedi school it seems ...JJ thought it would look cool and he doesn't really care if it conflicts with previously established facts because he's a hack? 
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Dec 18, 2019 16:26
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Vader disappeared and became a ghost so maybe it wasn’t all that hard.
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I called him an idiot hack fraud before and I stand by it, Abrams has never made a film I liked.
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euphronius posted:Vader disappeared and became a ghost so maybe it wasn’t all that hard. Vader earned it 
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Tato posted:With the emperor being arbitrarily resurrected (and what's to keep him from being brought back again after this movie?), I'm glad the films have come full circle to being as ridiculous as the old EU. Only disappointed we didn't get Luuke Skywalker and Luuuke Skywalker That force ghost of Luke did look suspiciously slightly bigger...
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CODChimera posted:Are the space battles at least good? By all accounts, there’s one at the end, and it’s constantly cut with Rey vs. Grampa. It ends with the Empire ships blowing up because Sheev died.
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Postorder Trollet89 posted:Friend sent me this, not mine but still. But why is Jar Jar, the most notorious Sith Lord on it?
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The worst part about the reviews is that people still won't concede that this whole trilogy wasn't worth it, as if two films worth of totally separate, but equally vague, promises that the new characters would actually become interesting were likely to lead to a satisfying conclusion.
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Pollyanna posted:By all accounts, there’s one at the end, and it’s constantly cut with Rey vs. Grampa. It ends with the Empire ships blowing up because Sheev died. So basically it doesn't even matter lol.
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Postorder Trollet89 posted:Friend sent me this, not mine but still. The Dark Knight Rise of Skywalker
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What's sad is there are some really good ideas here actually. Rey being Palpatine's daughter isn't a bad idea in and of itself. Bringing Palpatine back is loving stupid, but that idea is probably better than any of the other alternatives. TLJ basically should have ended with Rey joining Kylo and going to the dark side. The movie should have begun with Luke refusing to train Rey because of her anger and age, that she is too old, echoing the prequels. Basically they should have created a mirror image of Rey = Anakin and Luke = Yoda from the original series. Have Luke repeat the "Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to the dark side." And really foreshadow Rey's turn at the end. They should of just also canonized that Anakin is Palpatine's Son and have him mention it during his conversation at some point and make that one of the big revelations of the film, the same way Vader is revealed to be Luke's father in ESB. Some people here mentioned the third film should have had Luke fight Kylo and Rey, but imo that would have been boring. They should have always had a subplot that Finn was force-sensitive and it should have been him going up against Kylo and Rey. Specifically make Rey a dark evil sith temptress playing on Finn's infatuation with her, and make it so Finn ultimately wins and end up revealing that the whole trilogy was about Finn all along. You could also center the third film revelation around Rey being a Palpatine, without bringing Palpatine back. And with the previous explanation, that would make Rey Darth Vader's sister, and also explain Kylo's fascination with her.
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euphronius posted:Was palpatine waiting for luke to die to come back or is the timing never explained that would actually make alot of sense so I'm guessing it's the latter
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Pollyanna posted:By all accounts, there’s one at the end, and it’s constantly cut with Rey vs. Grampa. It ends with the Empire ships blowing up because Sheev died. Yeah I'm assuming it's (all)bad but you never know!
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There's already a narrative taking hold that ROS is a bad movie because it tried to appease people who didn't like Last Jedi by retconning every subversive element. Thing is, they don't seem to like it either. So they managed to piss off and alienate every side of the argument. That's one way to unify the fans I guess!
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Asgerd posted:There's already a narrative taking hold that ROS is a bad movie because it tried to appease people who didn't like Last Jedi by retconning every subversive element. Thing is, they don't seem to like it either. So they managed to piss off and alienate every side of the argument. That's one way to unify the fans I guess! It reminds me of that Dark Tower movie that was supposedly made for fans of the books but they hated it and non-readers couldn't follow it so it was literally a movie made for no one.
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Forbes going hard: https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottm...skywalker-saga/
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Asgerd posted:There's already a narrative taking hold that ROS is a bad movie because it tried to appease people who didn't like Last Jedi by retconning every subversive element. Thing is, they don't seem to like it either. So they managed to piss off and alienate every side of the argument. That's one way to unify the fans I guess! It’s all according to plan...*palps laugh*
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"I am all the Senate."euphronius posted:Vader disappeared and became a ghost so maybe it wasn’t all that hard. There wasn't much of him left in the first place.
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kidkissinger posted:Forbes going hard: quote:The Rise of Skywalker is possibly worse than any prior Star Wars “episode.” It ends a legendary franchise with a thud while denying this new trilogy its artistic reason for existence. It represents the cultural theft of Star Wars from today’s kids by today’s arrested-development-stricken adults. Star Wars was a franchise first and foremost for children, and the kids who grew up with Harry Potter, The Hunger Games and the MCU have embraced harsh truths and challenging narratives. Lucasfilm and Disney’s The Rise of Skywalker feels explicitly crafted for the “Rian Johnson ruined Star Wars!” and “George Lucas ruined my childhood!” demographics, right down to its near erasure of Kelly Marie Tran’s Rose Tico. It’s bad enough that adults no longer see grown-up movies in theaters, but now yesterday’s geeks who have taken over pop culture feel entitled to have the kid-friendly franchises aimed at them as well. "You ungrateful plebs didn't like The Last Jedi, so it's your fault this movie sucks."
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Postorder Trollet89 posted:I get what you're saying but Finns problem is waaay deeper than that. Finn was utterly wasted which is a god damned shame. YaketySass posted:"I am all the Senate." And I mean did he disappear? Both he and Qui-Gon left bodies to be burned. That Qui-Gon's spirit manifested itself didn't mean his body ceased existing. 
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Asgerd posted:There's already a narrative taking hold that ROS is a bad movie because it tried to appease people who didn't like Last Jedi by retconning every subversive element. Thing is, they don't seem to like it either. So they managed to piss off and alienate every side of the argument. That's one way to unify the fans I guess! about time disney got their justice league
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Asgerd posted:"You ungrateful plebs didn't like The Last Jedi, so it's your fault this movie sucks." https://twitter.com/dankmccoy/status/1207319341429071872?s=19
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Brother Entropy posted:about time disney got their justice league What’s the equivalent of Harley Quinn in Star Wars? That’s what will save Disney!
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