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Memnaelar posted:I actually thought his art style was visually interesting and that he had a few clever ideas. That said, he's a poo poo person and I won't buy more of his stuff. It's just a shame that something like Blue Medusa, which does have some good stuff and a lot of hard work from Stuart, is also tainted by his association. FYI, if you ever post something like this, containing a phrase that could be read in isolation as some kind of praise for his work, there's the possibility he will quote you out of context in a blog post about how even the psychotic murderers who hate him think his work is good. It happened before.
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inklesspen posted:FYI, if you ever post something like this, containing a phrase that could be read in isolation as some kind of praise for his work, there's the possibility he will quote you out of context in a blog post about how even the psychotic murderers who hate him think his work is good. It cracks me up that he put me on there because I'm pretty sure it was taken from a G+ thread where I was mocking his inability to own up and donate to a charity without having people jump through hoops.
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Memnaelar posted:I actually thought his art style was visually interesting and that he had a few clever ideas. That said, he's a poo poo person and I won't buy more of his stuff. It's just a shame that something like Blue Medusa, which does have some good stuff and a lot of hard work from Stuart, is also tainted by his association. First off no it doesn't, it's piss poor writing and a "only works if your players touch all the dangerous stuff" dungeon, gussied up with a metric ton of "Sexually available but oh so dangerous cheesecake women monster stereotypes" that people tend to associate with interesting complexity instead of barely disguised sexism. And his art style is pretty well exemplified by the cover of MOTBM. It's Mandy, who is naturally super good looking, run through a bunch of filters to turn her into a "Sexually available but oh so dangerous cheesecake women monster stereotype." OH THE ARTINESS.
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Combaticus posted:Is there a list of Zak's former collaborators, who still defend him? I want to make sure I'm not supporting these shitheads financially. I'd hate it if some of my xmas present budget went to them. To my knowledge Satine Phoenix has never publicly distanced herself from Zak.
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Dawgstar posted:To my knowledge Satine Phoenix has never publicly distanced herself from Zak. Warthur fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Dec 17, 2019 |
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Dec 17, 2019 19:32
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DalaranJ posted:A lot of people who you would think of as OSR were actually just into 3e. Justin Alexander never hid this, he doesn’t really care about the OSR at all. He just wants his combat to be war, except without the ethical consequences. CC did basically hide it, writing almost solely system neutral diatribes. But then he wrote a sourcebook. And it was clearly intended for 3e. Zak also ran a version of 3e, although he doesn’t actually care which system he is running as long as daddy gets his likes and subscribes. inklesspen posted:FYI, if you ever post something like this, containing a phrase that could be read in isolation as some kind of praise for his work, there's the possibility he will quote you out of context in a blog post about how even the psychotic murderers who hate him think his work is good.
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Warthur posted:No, she has. Here she is regretting getting him involved with her charity activities and introducing him to Matt Mercer. Her most prominent response didn't mention him or Mandy by name, but contextually it's obvious she's talking about him and siding with Mandy. That's some mealy-mouthed bullshit that purposefully avoids any sort of responsibility for enabling Zak and seems like it only focuses on his abuse of Mandy (which was 100% completely invisible for 10+ years and such a surprise, which is totes very believable) and not at all on his general lovely, horrible behavior completely aside from that that Zak only ever cared to have some plausible deniability for that they eagerly lapped up
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inklesspen posted:FYI, if you ever post something like this, containing a phrase that could be read in isolation as some kind of praise for his work, there's the possibility he will quote you out of context in a blog post about how even the psychotic murderers who hate him think his work is good. Jesus Christ. Of course he additionally went looking for people’s real names.
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Combaticus posted:Is there a list of Zak's former collaborators, who still defend him? I want to make sure I'm not supporting these shitheads financially. I'd hate it if some of my xmas present budget went to them. Z. seems to be going wild in the comments there with his “sign an affidavit under penalty of perjury” routine. (Like, right now.) https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/diyrpgproductions/demon-city-the-ultimate-horror-rpg/comments Foglet fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Dec 17, 2019 |
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This dumbfuck seems to genuinely believe that he can use his affidavits as blackbelt gotcha legal maneuvers and unless someone signs one nothing was said. He's every lawyer's dream whale.
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It's the same "Would you agree that..." "...so in other words, you're saying that..." stuff he used to do on forums, but now he's acting under the legal lawyerin' advice of Leonard J. Crabs, Esq.
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"I am putting my portion of the kickstarter money toward victims of harassment and abuse." "How so?" "I am funding a defamation lawsuit against my ex." Geez, how classy.
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dwarf74 posted:Until this it was mostly nobody except Raggi getting all petulant about it.
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Yeah but wasn't he literally a cop? You can't really expect much from ol' Tenky.
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Halloween Jack posted:Nah, the bulwark is people not buying his poo poo, literally and figuratively. He only ever had a brand because he knows some attractive women (that he abused). I don't think that's the case at all. When I spoke with people who liked his work back when he was merely "controversial", most of them found the whole porn star thing to be gimmicky and a bit pathetic. It was never about the women, it was that he was a man with industry connections and an aggressive advertising campaign allegedly in service of a playstyle that insane brain-addled gamers have been propagating as unfairly maligned/ethically and qualitatively superior to that of the "industry darlings" since the second half of D&D 3E. His popularity had less to do with scantily clad women than it did the fact that he was trying to push grognardism as a punk scene. beeoi fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Dec 17, 2019 |
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Nickoten posted:Jesus Christ. Of course he additionally went looking for people’s real names. It was not particularly difficult; at the time, that was the name associated with the twitter account "inklesspen". (It is now a different name, for obvious reasons.) What I did find particularly boggleworthy was the screenshot from the film Amadeus, implying that the people he mentions in the post are trying to destroy him and his work the same way Salieri (in the fictional film, not in real life) tried to destroy Mozart and his work.
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Halloween Jack posted:It's the same "Would you agree that..." "...so in other words, you're saying that..." stuff he used to do on forums, but now he's acting under the legal lawyerin' advice of Leonard J. Crabs, Esq.
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Now that D&D YouTube channels are sorta a thing now, have any of them addressed any of this poo poo with Mearls?
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Foglet posted:The Demon City is a weird case. Poor Mike. He clearly doesn't want this conversation making GBS threads up his Kickstarter and hasn't for months, but he's working with a guy who won't take "no" for an answer.
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Ettin posted:Poor Mike. He clearly doesn't want this conversation making GBS threads up his Kickstarter and hasn't for months, but he's working with a guy who won't take "no" for an answer.
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Foglet posted:The Demon City is a weird case. Jesus he's insufferable.
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Ettin posted:Poor Mike. He clearly doesn't want this conversation making GBS threads up his Kickstarter and hasn't for months, but he's working with a guy who won't take "no" for an answer. I love how he's going "I'm going to report every single comment from the last 24 hours to kickstarter!" but it was Z who started stirring up poo poo first.
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I actually took the time to read the insane affidavit poo poo that he keeps banging on about, and it’s loving mindblowing how dumb this whole thing is, especially considering his magical affidavits don’t actually mean anything because they’re not notarized. Which means that there’s no documented evidence that a signature wasn’t faked, and unless the individual is able to attend the court case, they are fairly worthless, especially given the requirements under both the California code and the necessity for bringing it to trial in a foreign country (apostille is an important part). Obviously I’m not an expert on California-Canada law, but this looks to be more dumb posturing for his desire to seem smart. It’s also possible that he’s gotten the required legal additions, but then, wouldn’t he be using that as his example? Also, who the gently caress posts a (not technically legalized) affidavit publicly to show they’re not an abusive creep, and demands others use the format to do so when they call him a loving creep?
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90s Cringe Rock posted:Yeah but wasn't he literally a cop? You can't really expect much from ol' Tenky.
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GrandpaPants posted:Now that D&D YouTube channels are sorta a thing now, have any of them addressed any of this poo poo with Mearls? Oh my, no. Although to be fair I'm not sure how many of them realize how complicit Mearls was.
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Is it that fandom thing where nobody badmouths the big guy?
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moths posted:Is it that fandom thing where nobody badmouths the big guy? I think the relative obscurity of Mearls's involvement probably has more to do with the breadth and depth of Zak's bullshit. He was doing it before Mearls brought him on, after all, and there are a ton of people who defended him over the years. Mearls should absolutely be fired for it, though, gently caress him.
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He tried to come back in june for a day. I hod forgotten what his pinned tweet was, lol.
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Twitter is essentially a large collection of debt collectors waiting for Mearls to peak his head out the door. Nobody's forgotten and he knows it.
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I'm confused as to how a brand manager can be so toxic he can't post on social media, but still have his job.
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Halloween Jack posted:I'm confused as to how a brand manager can be so toxic he can't post on social media, but still have his job. No one at Hasbro gives a poo poo about D&D as long as it's making (the relatively small amount of) money and any controversy doesn't grow too big.
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Admiral Joeslop posted:No one at Hasbro gives a poo poo about D&D as long as it's making (the relatively small amount of) money and any controversy doesn't grow too big. Also Mearls can point to Critical Role as an example of brand growth even if he had as much to do with it as I do.
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Admiral Joeslop posted:No one at Hasbro gives a poo poo about D&D as long as it's making (the relatively small amount of) money and any controversy doesn't grow too big. WotC also publicly ate poo poo over an unforced error in their MtG storyline that ticked off a lot of LGBTQ fans, so they have a very recent reminder of why it's better lay low and avoid controversy. (Short version: a novel written by an outside contractor had a character write off her relationship with another woman by saying she was always more into "manly men", prompting fans and employees alike to express disappointment; eventually WotC put out a statement saying she would "love and be involved with many characters regardless of gender" while the author wrote a blog post saying he didn't have total creative control over how it happened.)
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There is a very simple answer to why the editors told Weisman (who wrote the actual initial kiss and confession being retconned) to shut that down. China.
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MollyMetroid posted:There is a very simple answer to why the editors told Weisman (who wrote the actual initial kiss and confession being retconned) to shut that down. I know that's a relevant reason for marvel movies (partially the bosses are also regressive) but is that so much an issue with nerd toys like magic? I admit to not knowing how much magic sells in China so I'm curious.
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Hel posted:I know that's a relevant reason for marvel movies (partially the bosses are also regressive) but is that so much an issue with nerd toys like magic? I admit to not knowing how much magic sells in China so I'm curious. Well, the mea culpa apology was specifically not viewable in Russia and China. On a related note, the whole thing about Chandra also turned up that one of Magic's creative leads is a creepy dude who wrote a whole unironic novel about loving underage girls! Yaaaaaaaaaaay!
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Dawgstar posted:Oh my, no. Although to be fair I'm not sure how many of them realize how complicit Mearls was. D&D youtubers basically seem to be fanboys posturing as analytical content makers, and the irony is that there is such a dearth of D&D-related criticism on the internet that they actually seem reasonable in comparison to the average forum discussion. There's a 30+ minute "critique of 5th edition" done by someone and all they managed to say over 30 minutes was that the CR system doesn't work, some subclasses are miles better than others, and monsters are generally quite boring and ineffectual at high levels. His conclusion was that the game was good, but flawed. That's the closest thing you're going to get to self-reflection from someone dumb enough to make a game like 5E the focus of their channel.
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Hel posted:I know that's a relevant reason for marvel movies (partially the bosses are also regressive) but is that so much an issue with nerd toys like magic? I admit to not knowing how much magic sells in China so I'm curious. Magic sells shitloads in China. There have been China-only products, and at one point a Hong Kong tournament winner's deck had its name censored because it referenced a Hong Kong anti-government student movement.
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