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Ma & Pa Kent being alive ALWAYS makes for better Superman comics.
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Dec 18, 2019 18:21
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Superman Smashes the Klan continues to be immensely charming and beautifully illustrated. If you've got a kid in your life in any way do everybody a favor and grab them the first two volumes for the holidays.
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Dec 18, 2019 18:57
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Rhyno posted:Ma & Pa Kent being alive ALWAYS makes for better Superman comics. Shots fired at All Star Superman.
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Dec 18, 2019 19:10
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When all is said and done, I think Scott Snyder deserves credit for having written some of the most ambitious, epic, and impressively-enjoyable Justice League runs around. There's always a lot to like in all of these issues, despite a bit of bloat and a lot of interchangeable MacGuffins. It's just unfortunate that so much of the personal and narrative stakes have been placed around this...Shayne?...character because that really demands that you be sold and smitten by the weird romance they've tossed in between J'onn and Kendra which is just.............nah. No thanks. It was just weird and did not sell to me in the least.
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Dec 18, 2019 21:49
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Overall Doomsday Clock felt like a better version of Infinite Crisis mashed in with a worse version of Watchmen.
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Dec 18, 2019 22:48
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I'm really torn with this because the idea of Doc finding a purpose in rebuilding is ok, but really against the tone of Watchmen. It's basically "No we can't fix everything, lets just get God to come in and make it right". The creation of a Doctor Clarkhattan is also kind of... uh... well what does an omnipotent teenager do when they discover quantum god kidnapped them and poo poo? It's supposed to be heartfelt and a kind of sweet thing, but feels like, ultimately, "Watchmen universe was hosed because there was no Good Clark Superdaddy to save them and inspire them". And, really, I feel that the whole thing rests on a weird assumption of Doc's powerset. That he can affect time as he wishes instead of just seeing the totality of his timeline... that maybe he's always been able to reach back and forward but his aimless, detached sense of self limited him from it. The whole series is basically "What's so important about Superman?" And it does do some cool things, like setting up the contractions and growths of the DCU as revolving around Superman. But 3 years for this? Yikes FilthyImp fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Dec 18, 2019 |
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Dec 18, 2019 22:49
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John's Superman hypothesis is Morrison's from final crisis.
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Dec 18, 2019 22:54
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Mr Hootington posted:John's Superman hypothesis is Morrison's from final crisis.
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Dec 18, 2019 23:00
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BrianWilly posted:It's just unfortunate that so much of the personal and narrative stakes have been placed around this...Shayne?...character because that really demands that you be sold and smitten by the weird romance they've tossed in between J'onn and Kendra which is just.............nah. No thanks. It was just weird and did not sell to me in the least. I haven't been keeping up at all. When did Kendra and J'onn happen?
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Dec 18, 2019 23:59
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Dawgstar posted:I haven't been keeping up at all. When did Kendra and J'onn happen? In JL. As part of a plot by the Forger of Worlds, they're lured into a "Good Ending" future that includes Kendra and J'onn getting together and having a half-Martian/half-Thanagarian kid. When the league escapes, they take the kid with them as he helped them escape
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Dec 19, 2019 00:10
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I think Doomsday Clock I think the story was not good, and could have been told in half as many issues. But, at least it results in good things for the DC Universe. But the thing is that it all rings so hollow when it's largely the same people in charge anyway, and I feel like the current line up of DC books is just astonishingly mediocre. There's good stuff like Lois Lane coming out, but I can't say anything DC is putting out gets me excited to see a new issue for like Immortal Hulk or Marauders do. Maybe I'm just too much of a fan at this point where nothing that comes out can really meet my expectations, but who knows. New creative teams are coming on Batman and Justice League, and I have yet to read Tom Taylor's Suicide Squad.
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Dec 19, 2019 00:23
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Suicide Squad is exactly what it needed to be. I am liking it so much more than the previous series.
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Dec 19, 2019 00:33
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I didn't hate DClock when I fully expected to loathe it so... good job, Johns? Still not great, and holy poo poo it didn't need to take this long but for as horrible an idea as it seemed when it was announced... coulda been worse. Though I could be blinded by the fact that it brought the Kents back, which is good because offing them was one of things I hated the most about the N52. I mean there's a ton of things that people justifiably hated about the N52, but that one was one that really stuck in my craw. Dawgstar posted:I haven't been keeping up at all. When did Kendra and J'onn happen? It didn't, which is weird. Like in Xelkelvos' post, they saw they had a future child and then suddenly they just start acting like a couple. Only they have zero chemistry and never even seem interested in each other, they seem to just take it as fact that since they have a future baby that they've got to be together.
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Dec 19, 2019 00:38
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I see a lot of DDC reactions but no recognition for Alfred conking a thinly-veiled MAGA hathead with a pipe.
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Dec 19, 2019 04:13
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TwoPair posted:It didn't, which is weird. Like in Xelkelvos' post, they saw they had a future child and then suddenly they just start acting like a couple. Only they have zero chemistry and never even seem interested in each other, they seem to just take it as fact that since they have a future baby that they've got to be together. I feel like that's happened in comics before. Like specific examples, but I can't remember them.
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Dec 19, 2019 04:32
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Oh man, Wonder Woman: Dead Earth is definitely some wild poo poo. Lotsa gore, lotsa nuclear apocalypse orphans, lotsa thunderdomey stuff. You get the picture. I was gonna ream it slightly for not really having much to do with Wonder Woman, per se, besides some obligatory Hippolyta/Steve flashbacks, but...there's a scene that comes near the end of the issue that made me go oh snap, thank you yes. This is definitely still Diana. They actually do still get it. The latest mainline WW issue from Orlando is still gibberish, though.  The cliffhanger ending of Rebirth Hera finally showing up is interesting enough for my broken-rear end fan-rear end to want to read, but the non-fan part of my brain knows this is not worth the effort.
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Dec 19, 2019 05:23
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BrianWilly posted:Oh man, Wonder Woman: Dead Earth is definitely some wild poo poo. Lotsa gore, lotsa nuclear apocalypse orphans, lotsa thunderdomey stuff. You get the picture. I was gonna ream it slightly for not really having much to do with Wonder Woman, per se, besides some obligatory Hippolyta/Steve flashbacks, but...there's a scene that comes near the end of the issue that made me go oh snap, thank you yes. This is definitely still Diana. They actually do still get it. I was pretty excited for Wonder Woman: Dead Earth. I picked up Daniel Warren Johnson's title from a few months ago, Murder Falcon, on a whim and I came to absolutely love that. There's a grittiness to his art that feels really good for monsters, like in that series and this, and it works pretty darn well with the post-apocalyptic setting.
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Dec 19, 2019 06:29
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Dawgstar posted:I feel like that's happened in comics before. Like specific examples, but I can't remember them. Literally happened in the Justice League cartoon. John Stewart goes to the future and finds out he and Hawkgirl have a kid together. Later in the series when she finds out it helps them mend their relationship.
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Dec 19, 2019 13:50
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TheHan posted:Literally happened in the Justice League cartoon. John Stewart goes to the future and finds out he and Hawkgirl have a kid together. Later in the series when she finds out it helps them mend their relationship. Didn't they get together before that? This one from what TwoPair said felt more out of nowhere.
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Dec 19, 2019 14:55
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Dawgstar posted:Didn't they get together before that? This one from what TwoPair said felt more out of nowhere. They did, but at the end of Justice League they broke it off after Hawkgirl’s doublecross. The way they were brought back together felt way more natural compared to how Justice League sounds, but I haven’t read it so no idea if there was even a hint of them being together before that.
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Dec 19, 2019 15:20
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I actually really liked the ending of Doomsday Clock.
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Dec 19, 2019 15:23
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TheHan posted:They did, but at the end of Justice League they broke it off after Hawkgirl’s doublecross.
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Dec 19, 2019 18:58
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Lord_Hambrose posted:Suicide Squad is exactly what it needed to be. I am liking it so much more than the previous series. I love all of the new characters, though I wish they kept the dandy swordsman around for fun. He should have been a character that everyone wishes/expects to die and never does.
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Dec 19, 2019 19:34
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Thanks for the Suicide Squad recommendation. That's on the pull list now.
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Dec 19, 2019 20:38
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I think the overall run of Doomsday Clock had some definite high points, but the resolution felt super contrived to me, and disrespectful to the original work. I mean this comic existing at all was already disrespectful, but even moreso. I think it's totally fair for today's writers to want to address the impact of Watchmen on the industry, and to argue for an alternative, but to write fan fiction where Superman convinces Doctor Manhattan to Be Best is embarrassing imo.
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Dec 19, 2019 22:24
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Dawgstar posted:Thanks for the Suicide Squad recommendation. That's on the pull list now. Waller getting sidelined and some other schmuck commanding the squad is nothing new. Capturing people specifically to be recruited, just as much. Still, it's relatively fresh after so long and there's a new set of warm bodies to explore and red shirt.
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Dec 20, 2019 01:05
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FilthyImp posted:The triangle with Vixen gets resolved pretty well, doesn't it? I don't think there was a definitive resolution in the show, but after a point her and Hawkgirl becomes good friends and it's pretty much a friendly rivalry.
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Dec 20, 2019 02:28
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Jimmy Olsen still incredible.
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Dec 20, 2019 03:43
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Xelkelvos posted:Waller getting sidelined and some other schmuck commanding the squad is nothing new. Capturing people specifically to be recruited, just as much. Still, it's relatively fresh after so long and there's a new set of warm bodies to explore and red shirt. Mostly it's because Tom Taylor is writing it, and the art's nice too.
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Dec 20, 2019 04:00
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superman smashes the klan continues to be great but ugh, gotta wait til february for the finale
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Dec 20, 2019 05:02
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TheHan posted:after a point her and Hawkgirl becomes good friends and it's pretty much a friendly rivalry. 
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Dec 20, 2019 05:18
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Just finished City of Bane and while the whole thing went way to long I liked the concluding issue. I liked he way it revolved the Batman/Catwoman relationship still would have liked a wedding but at least they declared their love to one another and it looks like it will be a relationship going forward so that's good and I liked Bruce's declaration in chosing to be happy and still be Batman. Of course this want last and he will be back to being a brooding anti social jerk, but if this was the last Batman issue ever it would be good enough.
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Dec 20, 2019 23:48
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Cassa posted:Jimmy Olsen still incredible. What's this?
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Dec 21, 2019 00:12
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graybook posted:What's this? Jimmy, short for Jimphony
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Dec 21, 2019 00:22
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Excuse me, it is James Bartholomew Jimberly Olsen. The cheek!
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Dec 21, 2019 00:29
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good day for a bris posted:Jimmy, short for Jimphony Batman always gets the last laugh
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Dec 21, 2019 00:31
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Madkal posted:Just finished City of Bane and while the whole thing went way to long I liked the concluding issue. I liked he way it revolved the Batman/Catwoman relationship still would have liked a wedding but at least they declared their love to one another and it looks like it will be a relationship going forward so that's good and I liked Bruce's declaration in chosing to be happy and still be Batman. Of course this want last and he will be back to being a brooding anti social jerk, but if this was the last Batman issue ever it would be good enough. I like that he just chose to hang out at a bar with Kite Man. Just Bruce Wayne and Chuck Brown watching football.
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Dec 21, 2019 00:32
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Xelkelvos posted:Batman always gets the last laugh Of course, he's hilarious you know.
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Dec 21, 2019 02:32
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I haven't read Batman in years and years so I sat down and read Tom King's entire 85 issue run over the past few weeks (thanks, library and comixology!) and....I liked it. Month to month it would probably have driven me crazy at points but reading it as one big story...yeah, I dug it. By ending the run with Bat/Cat the way they did, the next writer or whoever down the road can undo everything easily so he can go back to a single man punching things, but I thought of it as a good ending. So much so I could care less about the next team coming in, and probably will not read Batman for years and years now. Now that Doomsday clock is done, I'm going to check that out too.
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Dec 21, 2019 03:07
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I skipped Snyder’s entire run because I knew nothing could compare to how I felt about Morrison’s run. Was thinking about checking out Tynion’s Batman, but that Joker teaser didn’t do anything for me. Of course, I’ll be checking out Batman/Catwoman to see what they do with the Phantasm.
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Dec 21, 2019 03:21
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