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Travic posted:I just don't understand. Why? Why won't they listen? It's easy to just say they're stupid or ignorant or some snarky comment, but I am serious. What happened to our country? It makes no sense.
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COOL CORN posted:Ahhh, yeahhhh, Franklin Graham responded about the Christianity Today article saying his father would be embarrassed and that CT is a liberal mag now. I'd be embarrassed if Franklin Graham was my son, too. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1207997319821615105?s=19
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:I'd be embarrassed if Franklin Graham was my son, too. Entertainment Tonight probably has knives out for him too, TBF.
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:I'd be embarrassed if Franklin Graham was my son, too. LOL this is not a far-left magazine if its the one I am thinking of
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Won't be reading it again? Dude just cannot help but lie about everything and anything at all times even in implication.
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bird food bathtub posted:Won't be reading it again? Dude just cannot help but lie about everything and anything at all times even in implication. Hes right that he wont be reading it again, in the sense that he never read it in the first place
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friendbot2000 posted:LOL this is not a far-left magazine if its the one I am thinking of They have far-left articles like this one encouraging wives to submit to their husbands as Paul commanded the Ephesians: https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2020/january-february/confronting-christianity-rebecca-mclaughlin-submission.html and an entire section of the site devoted to abortion https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/topics/a/abortion/ and here's an article on how "NEW RESEARCH" shows that "pray the gay away" programs might actually be good and useful! https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2007/october/5.52.html
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Ehud posted:They have far-left articles like this one encouraging wives to submit to their husbands as Paul commanded the Ephesians: Well I think the mindset on the above is that even something filled with good stuff like whats listed can still be a tool of the evil liberal commy democrat devil.
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Liberals represent the garbage can of ideology. Unfortunately in modern America they’re opposed by the garbage can people.
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I was just talking with my wife last night about the CT editorial and how Trump couldn't help but retaliate once he hears about it. I'm not surprised that Franklin Graham has his tongue stuck to Trump's boot, as he and Falwell Jr. are no different than the religious figures who backed Hitler. What will be interesting is what impact the editorial and Trump's attack on CT will play out with CT readers. While I've no doubt that many will stick with Trump, I think there will be some people who will listen. My hope is that this leads to some measure of splintering within the Evangelical community and more infighting in the GOP.
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impeachment update: https://twitter.com/justinbaragona/status/1207861363353239552
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eke out posted:impeachment update: HOW DOES IT KEEP GETTING DUMBER
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:I'd be embarrassed if Franklin Graham was my son, too. What's ET?
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Failed Imagineer posted:What's ET? A movie by Steven Spielberg, he meant CT. Christianity Today, an evangelical magazine.
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Failed Imagineer posted:What's ET? Entertainment Tonight. Something that I thought hasn't mattered since the 90s. e: beaten and it's too early for me. He meant CT 
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In the debates where Trump has to openly argue with Democrats, I'd be thrilled if any one of them asked Trump something like "As such a devout Christian, I'd love for you to recite John 3:16, the most famous bible verse in the book, for our audience" and watch the audience when shockingly he'll have no loving clue about how to even begin.
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GreatGreen posted:In the debates where Trump has to openly argue with Democrats, I'd be thrilled if any one of them asked Trump something like "If you're so Christian, what's John 3:16, the most famous bible verse in the book" and watch the audience when he can't recite it. He will ignore the question and no one in his base will care because they don’t know the verse either
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GreatGreen posted:In the debates where Trump has to openly argue with Democrats, I'd be thrilled if any one of them asked Trump something like "If you're so Christian, what's John 3:16, the most famous bible verse in the book" and watch the audience when he can't recite it. These are possibly the most moronic Trump takes there is. You can't gotcha Trump, he'll just make a stupid rear end in a top hat face and rant about something else, and millions of hooting racists will crow and make memes of his chinless head photoshopped onto Master Chief or something. Thinking that you can own Trump like that just reveals that you have liberalism poisoning
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SHOAH NUFF posted:He will ignore the question and no one in his base will care because they don’t know the verse either It's the single bible verse every christian actually does know even if they couldn't tell you a single other thing about the religion besides JESUS. Hell it's even plastered on posters in the crowds at Pro Wrastlin' and monster truck shows. Failed Imagineer posted:These are possibly the most moronic Trump takes there is. You can't gotcha Trump, he'll just make a stupid rear end in a top hat face and rant about something else, and millions of hooting racists will crow and make memes of his chinless head photoshopped onto Master Chief or something. That is so depressing.
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COOL CORN posted:Ahhh, yeahhhh, Franklin Graham responded about the Christianity Today article saying his father would be embarrassed and that CT is a liberal mag now. Again, there's no reason to believe many Christians take their faith seriously. So why should anyone else? Christianity isn't under assault from the outside, it is being demolished by the apostates from the inside.
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Scooter_McCabe posted:And three years of "Prosperity" followed by a massive poo poo show. Only those wearing the mark of the beast can do business. Cats living with dogs, total pandemonium. But then isn't there a thousand years of peace as Jesus reigns on earth Bring on the socialist paradise 
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Doctor Butts posted:Again, there's no reason to believe many Christians take their faith seriously. So why should anyone else? Let's not have whatever conversation this is in this thread, please.
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here's a pretty good read on what's happening on the prosperity side of christianity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XilvAwjjVCs wrapped up in a review of kirk cameron's "saving christmas" they no longer like the word "christian", their faith is in christ's divinity, not his message. they aren't "christian" they are "men of faith" prosperity gospel has really caught on because there's tons of cash to be made if you know the secret word (jesus).
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GreatGreen posted:In the debates where Trump has to openly argue with Democrats, I'd be thrilled if any one of them asked Trump something like "As such a devout Christian, I'd love for you to recite John 3:16, the most famous bible verse in the book, for our audience" and watch the audience when shockingly he'll have no loving clue about how to even begin. He's been asked before, specifically I think he was asked what his favorite verse is. His response was he loved the whole bible, all of it, and then proceeded to word-salad.
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COOL CORN posted:HOW DOES IT KEEP GETTING DUMBER I mean, thread title this please.
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redneck nazgul posted:the modern evangelical movement was married to white supremacy in the 1960s and the desegregation of public schools, why do you expect that they'd turn on someone emboldening their rhetoric? Just trying to hold on. I've been very depressed the past few years because things just keep getting worse and people keep falling further and further down the hole. Most of the people who have been helping me are optimistic to a fault (Things will get better because they have to/Trump supporters are still good people/Things will improve because they always do). But all evidence seems to suggest that nearly half of the country is lost and irredeemable. Including my friends. I'm just trying to find some good in them that maybe things aren't as hopeless as it seems. I've been avoiding the news fairly successfully for a while but I went to the gym last week to try and keep active I saw the news that McConnell said he would coordinate with the White House on the impeachment trial. I mean...WHAT?! And then Graham said he will find Trump innocent no matter what evidence is presented. And this is ok because...? nine-gear crow posted:Like, isn't one of the big things about the Anti-Christ how he's able to make all the phony Christians who just love money and hurting other people flock to him uncontrollably like he's the Pied Piper, while all the people who actually follow Christ's teachings can see through that poo poo like a window? Scooter_McCabe posted:And three years of "Prosperity" followed by a massive poo poo show. Only those wearing the mark of the beast can do business. Cats living with dogs, total pandemonium. You know, I was afraid to post this because there might be some backlash and people would think I'm crazy but I've been thinking about this for a while. I'm actually fairly religious. I've disliked it when people try to apply Revelations to people and things they don't like ("Obama is the Antichrist because he's a socialist"), but current events scare the poo poo out of me. Yes, He's is supposed to rule for three and a half years and openly flout religious laws. He is basically the exact opposite of what a Christian should be and "fake" Christians flock to him in droves and worship him no matter what he does. Pretty much everyone left in existence tries to dissuade them, but they refuse. Though if this is the case we are over due for scorpion monsters. Which is a drat shame because that would be sweet.
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vincentpricesboner posted:When does everyone think Pelosi will actually move forward with the impeachment? When the courts rule on the tax returns.
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Travic posted:You know, I was afraid to post this because there might be some backlash and people would think I'm crazy but I've been thinking about this for a while. I'm actually fairly religious. I've disliked it when people try to apply Revelations to people and things they don't like ("Obama is the Antichrist because he's a socialist"), but current events scare the poo poo out of me. Yes, He's is supposed to rule for three and a half years and openly flout religious laws. He is basically the exact opposite of what a Christian should be and "fake" Christians flock to him in droves and worship him no matter what he does. Pretty much everyone left in existence tries to dissuade them, but they refuse. If it makes you feel better, Trump is not the antichrist because there is no such thing as the antichrist.
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eke out posted:impeachment update: This is like when they speculated that because Obama stumbled over a few words during his inauguration, he didn’t truly become a President.
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Travic posted:You know, I was afraid to post this because there might be some backlash and people would think I'm crazy but I've been thinking about this for a while. I'm actually fairly religious. I've disliked it when people try to apply Revelations to people and things they don't like ("Obama is the Antichrist because he's a socialist"), but current events scare the poo poo out of me. Yes, He's is supposed to rule for three and a half years and openly flout religious laws. He is basically the exact opposite of what a Christian should be and "fake" Christians flock to him in droves and worship him no matter what he does. Pretty much everyone left in existence tries to dissuade them, but they refuse. Another way of looking at it is that for basically every president in history, people have been saying "this is the worst one ever" or "this is a sign of the end times". Its probably not. I mean, only a few presidents a go we clearly had "worse" presidents (in terms of entering wars that led to the slaughter of millions). We felt the same way when GWB was there (although he probably was one of the worst presidents ever). And as much as a proud and obvious baffoon Trump is, he hasn't done nearly the same amount of damage that GWB did. Although who knows once Trump is re-elected in 2020. The impeachment has only increased his polling numbers.
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Trump has caused enormous amount of damage on American society. W. outsourced his worst qualities to the Middle East. Both are part of the worst era of American history (so far).
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Slowpoke! posted:Reagan and GWB have caused more lasting damage than Trump will. Trump's not done yet.
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Oh I don't actually think he is. It's just an interesting parallel. He is the exact opposite of what they believe and they love him all the more for it. Makes me sad. I do want my scorpion monsters though. Slowpoke! posted:Reagan and GWB have caused more lasting damage than Trump will. They did wreck the economy. I think Trump is changing the character of the country. Overton window and all that.
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Slowpoke! posted:Reagan and GWB have caused more lasting damage than Trump will. To America, not so sure about Qatar and the Kurds
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Spun Dog posted:To America, not so sure about Qatar and the Kurds President George W Bush, famously not bad for inhabitants of the middle east
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