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Rontalvos posted:For babbys first NAS, long term photo storage and backup with RAID (in addition to an off-site backup) and a Plex server I've promised my parents they will have access to remotely, is a Synology 1019+ an alright solution filled with some shucked drives from this Best Buy sale? Synology and QNAP are both easy to manage and set up apps or remote access. If you have that much data that you need 5 bays then go for it. The 1019 has a quad core cpu that should handle transcoding well so would be a good choice for video.
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And if you want something DIY that'll also, unlike most other options, protect your data from silent data-corruption, there's FreeNAS.
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D. Ebdrup posted:And if you want something DIY that'll also, unlike most other options, protect your data from silent data-corruption, there's FreeNAS.
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Picking up one of the 4u 12 bay Rosewill chassis locally tomorrow morning to move my FreeNAS array into. Hopefully this will prevent me from the hearing damage the 2u CiDesign chassis I had it in previously was causing me. Nothing running in the rack right now other than the USG Pro and the HP 5130 switch and honestly my 1080ti Folding@home @70% fan is more than enough to drown that out. Ahhhh serenity. Time to play musical cases and Intel Haswell CPUs tomorrow.
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Dec 21, 2019 04:27
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Rontalvos posted:For babbys first NAS, long term photo storage and backup with RAID (in addition to an off-site backup) and a Plex server I've promised my parents they will have access to remotely, is a Synology 1019+ an alright solution filled with some shucked drives from this Best Buy sale? I got one last year and it's been serving me well for tv/movies/anime hoarding needs.
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Finally got around to bypassing the expander in my old Rackable SE3016 with an Intel RES2SV240, 6Gb/s here we come
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Rontalvos posted:For babbys first NAS, long term photo storage and backup with RAID (in addition to an off-site backup) and a Plex server I've promised my parents they will have access to remotely, is a Synology 1019+ an alright solution filled with some shucked drives from this Best Buy sale? go with 5x of the 14TB or whatever, do RAIDZ/whatever with 1 drive redundancy, and probably yes? That would be 56 GB usable. (You will want something else for backup though, regardless) it really depends on the resolution and quantity of your photo stuff (are you a wedding shooter with a 645Z? you need way more) and your plex stuff (is this dvd or 1080p or 720p or what, and how many shows/seasons), and how much your parents need you to back up. How much data do you plan to use in the near future? Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 06:03 on Dec 21, 2019 |
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Dec 21, 2019 05:58
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Paul MaudDib posted:go with 5x of the 14TB or whatever, do RAIDZ/whatever with 1 drive redundancy, and probably yes? That would be 56 GB usable. You will want something else for backup though. I've got about 8tb or so of tv/movies which is ever-expanding now that 4k content is available, and I've got about 10yrs of DSLR ownership, family vacations, etc for both myself and girlfriend, probably 4tb+, no more than 3 users of Plex at the same time, and that would be a rarity. Seems like this is the one to go with. I didn't see much for black Friday, any chance of a pre Christmas sale?
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You can build a NAS cheaper than a similarly performing Synology. This guide gives a lot of options. https://forums.serverbuilds.net/t/guide-nas-killer-4-0-fast-quiet-power-efficient-and-flexible-starting-at-125/667 Benefits to doing this mostly are you can give yourself extra hard drives bays to allow for future expansion. If you need more plex streams the same site has a good guide on offloading plex to a cheap ~$100 prebuilt system with a modern version of intel quicksync. https://forums.serverbuilds.net/t/guide-hardware-transcoding-the-jdm-way-quicksync-and-nvenc/1408
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Seeing as you can get a e5-2603v3 for less than 20 bucks on ebay to platform-enable, as long as you are reasonably handy and have built a PC before, and plan to put a GPU in it for Plex transcoding, I'm inclined to recommend you build a server-ish grade FreeNAS box.
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Dec 21, 2019 14:34
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CopperHound posted:That is great but I really like being able to grow my array one drive at a time. QNAP and Synology have the advantage of being complete turn-key appliances, which definitely does have an appeal.
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Crunchy Black posted:Seeing as you can get a e5-2603v3 for less than 20 bucks on ebay to platform-enable, as long as you are reasonably handy and have built a PC before, and plan to put a GPU in it for Plex transcoding, I'm inclined to recommend you build a server-ish grade FreeNAS box. If you're going this route, there's really no reason to stick with an E5-2603v3 from what I can see. It's like  or so to bump up to a E5-2620v3 and that gets you +50% base frequency, turbo, and twice the threads.
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gently caress. Now I want to upgrade from my E3-1220v1 and throw in another vdev "just in case" I somehow run low on storage, despite having 10TB left and filling it at a rate of well under <10GB/day. drat it, thread, what are you guys doing to me?
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I eyed $400-$500 Synology NASes for years until I decided to build an 8-core Ryzen NAS for under $500 (not including the drives). $200 CPU $100 Mobo $100 RAM $100 PSU/Case Being able to run both Windows and MacOS vms at the same time is nice, and eventually I’ll pick up a modern GPU that I’ll be able to pass through and game with. It runs Pi Hole, CUPS for printing from anywhere, Homebridge to add HomeKit functionality to cheap Raspberry Pi webcams, all of my devices automatically VPN into it when I’m not at home, and I share my Plex with anybody who asks for it. It’s pretty great.
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You can also make the Synology equivalent of a Hackintosh with this: https://xpenology.org Might be worth looking into, depending on hardware
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THF13 posted:You can build a NAS cheaper than a similarly performing Synology. This guide gives a lot of options. https://forums.serverbuilds.net/t/guide-nas-killer-4-0-fast-quiet-power-efficient-and-flexible-starting-at-125/667 As someone who's become a bit disillusioned with these builds (switching my anniversary 1 out for an anniversary 2 due to USB issues), while the builds themselves are great, you don't really need hardware transcoding when you have stupid amounts of threads
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You don't want hardware transcoding unless your target device is a mobile device, because hardware transcoding looks loving wretched. A modern CPU with lots of threads and x264 set to slow speed at a good CRF cf. source resolution will ensure much better quality encoding at realtime speeds, iirc.
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Unless you are really doing a lot of drives or something and really really need a ton of expansion slots, it seems hard to argue with the X470D4U for a NAS build at the moment. Slap a 1600 in it for cost or you can go nuts with a 12C or 16C if you want.
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Paul MaudDib posted:Unless you are really doing a lot of drives or something and really really need a ton of expansion slots, it seems hard to argue with the X470D4U for a NAS build at the moment. Slap a 1600 in it for cost or you can go nuts with a 12C or 16C if you want. Hell yeah that’s what I’d been looking for, I had been checking asrockrack for am4 stuff before but glad it has shown up now. Having the Ast2500 for a nas is excellent.
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D. Ebdrup posted:You don't want hardware transcoding unless your target device is a mobile device, because hardware transcoding looks loving wretched. I am blind and I am good with the quality nvenc gives even on a large monitor.  I also share my media with up to 4 other people and with the patched nvidia driver to allow more than two CUDA transcoding streams, everything is cool and it is not pegging my CPU. EVIL Gibson fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Dec 21, 2019 |
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EVIL Gibson posted:I am blind and I am good with the quality nvenc gives even on a large monitor.  In addition, CRF neatly solves the issue that CBR, which is "normally" used for archiving, has: namely that you're wasting diskspace which CRF optimizes for by using more data in the scenes with more movement.
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D. Ebdrup posted:QNAP and Synology have the advantage of being complete turn-key appliances, which definitely does have an appeal. Also their size. I looked at rolling my own but realised the more compact I wanted it to be the harder it got finding parts that would all fit together with the right clearances
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There's a new Gigabyte W-3200 board launched, which didn't really interest me that much. That is, until I saw that there's a new SlimSAS connector which connects 8 disks via a very small form-factor connector - which could be very interesting for Mini-ITX solutions?  Hopefully they don't require being hung off the PCH and can hang off Denverton SoCs too.
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I upgraded my gaming machine and moved the old guts to a FreeNAS machine. It worked well with FreeNAS 11.1, but the FreeBSD loader in 11.2 shits the bed. The boot menu works fine, and it seems to be booting, then the system hangs. The last thing I get on the console is "EFI Framebuffer Information" followed by what looks like a few lines of, well, information about the framebuffer. Any ideas on how to troubleshoot/work around this? It's an ASUS P8Z77 motherboard if anyone cares. e: Worked around it by loading a new copy of 11.2 straight to an SSD and booting from that. Lots of moving parts to go wrong when booting from a USB drive, and apparently FreeNAS now discourages using USB sticks as boot volumes because they've changed the way things work and do more reading/writing to them now. Whatever, now my old EVO 850 has a new home. Now to see if it's worth trying to set it up as a cache drive somehow.... pgroce fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Dec 22, 2019 |
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D. Ebdrup posted:There's a new Gigabyte W-3200 board launched, Where are the PCIe switch(es)!? e: ah, they're auto-bifurcating (48 lanes off a Cascade Lake) slightly misleading block diagram imo
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D. Ebdrup posted:There's a new Gigabyte W-3200 board launched, which didn't really interest me that much. That is, until I saw that there's a new SlimSAS connector which connects 8 disks via a very small form-factor connector - which could be very interesting for Mini-ITX solutions? I'm not familiar with workstation stuff, and I'm confused by the RAM configuration on that board. What's going on with the "6 channel, 8 DIMM" thing, and the diagram makes it even more confusing. 
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D. Ebdrup posted:There's a new Gigabyte W-3200 board launched, which didn't really interest me that much. That is, until I saw that there's a new SlimSAS connector which connects 8 disks via a very small form-factor connector - which could be very interesting for Mini-ITX solutions? Seems like AMD is going to be the better budget Workstation build now days anyways. Santa came early and brought me a nice IBM 42U 
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Atomizer posted:I'm not familiar with workstation stuff, and I'm confused by the RAM configuration on that board. What's going on with the "6 channel, 8 DIMM" thing, and the diagram makes it even more confusing. It's pretty much as dumb as it sounds. If you use all eight DIMMs, you'll have an unbalanced configuration and you'll have less memory throughput than if you used six.
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IOwnCalculus posted:It's pretty much as dumb as it sounds. If you use all eight DIMMs, you'll have an unbalanced configuration and you'll have less memory throughput than if you used six. So basically for if you needed as much capacity as possible at the expense of bandwidth? If I'm reading the diagram correctly, the two "paired" sets of modules each share a channel? Half channel bandwidth for each? 
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Don't worry your local accountant will say the price point is great and totally ignore that fact, so you can enjoy this board soon. 
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I mean the solution is just don't use two of the slots. If you only use six equal DIMMs, which should probably allow for enough RAM for most people in here, you'll see full six channel performance. Supermicro does this too on some of their boards.
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There are plenty of applications where more memory is more valuable than ultimate memory performance. The moment you have to swap that difference becomes irrelevant.
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CommieGIR posted:Seems like AMD is going to be the better budget Workstation build now days anyways. Hah I saw that craigslist ad. Glad you were able to make use of it.
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Atomizer posted:I'm not familiar with workstation stuff, and I'm confused by the RAM configuration on that board. What's going on with the "6 channel, 8 DIMM" thing, and the diagram makes it even more confusing. The other two ram slots are for fake RGB ram so it makes you look like you've spent more money than you did.
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priznat posted:
Because that, right there, is why it was invented.
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D. Ebdrup posted:Who turned off memory size and timing caching? We are doing drive performance testing on arrays at work and found a big difference when filling all memory channels and, welp! And yes we invalidate cache etc so it isn’t just local caching everything into RAM for the cache  Array of 16 Gen3 x4 nvram drives connected via switch 
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I got one of these drives for xmas. https://www.costco.com/seagate-backup-plus-hub-8tb-desktop-hard-drive-with-rescue-data-recovery-services.product.100458004.html Can I shuck it and use it as an internal drive in my plex server? No raid or anything setup. Is there anything I need to do other than rip it from the case?
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Trastion posted:I got one of these drives for xmas. https://www.costco.com/seagate-backup-plus-hub-8tb-desktop-hard-drive-with-rescue-data-recovery-services.product.100458004.html You sure can and you can use flat-head screw drivers, a credit card, or a kitchen dining knife to pry those suckers open. Just look on Youtube if you need help doing it for the model name.
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