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MonstrousMouse posted:https://imgur.com/DXtBSEP At the very end.
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i think the dialog at the very end changes based on a lot of things. i read some people say it is different if you arrested klaasje/let her escape, let ruby kill herself/let her go, how many people died in the shootout, if joyce folded on the strike or not, etc. i think the "best" dialog requires you to not drink or do any drugs
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Dec 20, 2019 21:15
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Failing the karaoke check is amazing.
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Dec 20, 2019 22:52
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I drank very moderately (like for bonuses in one or two checks) and I still got called actively drunk at the end. Excuse me but I am being extremely functional right now. What ends up happening to Ruby if you talk her down from killing herself? Do you still get her gun? Does she show up again later?
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Dec 21, 2019 01:07
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I had one drink and did speed before the tribunal and got called out for it all. Like drat Kim that dose of speed and not having the jitters saved you and you narc on me? edit: You have to let her go to talk her down, you don't get her gun she just makes a run for it. Ixtlilton fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Dec 21, 2019 |
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Dec 21, 2019 01:24
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Talorat posted:I drank very moderately (like for bonuses in one or two checks) and I still got called actively drunk at the end. Excuse me but I am being extremely functional right now. she bails and doesnt show up again. then at the end the angry french guy yells at you for letting a suspect who is also a drug smugger go
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Dec 21, 2019 01:57
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Shear Modulus posted:she bails and doesnt show up again. then at the end the angry french guy yells at you for letting a suspect who is also a drug smugger go Kim told me he would have done the same had he been in my shoes. He is the best cop, so his opinon is the only one that matters.
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Dec 21, 2019 03:08
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It's not good to obsess about sexuality, but I had no idea Kim is part of the Homo-Sexual Underground! 
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Dec 21, 2019 03:39
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So he says, but I see that didn't stop him from being compromised by the blonde in the skin tight bodysuit. I don't like it when Kim and Volition fight. It's like when mom and dad fight.
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Dec 21, 2019 04:17
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At several points, Kim asked me why I was doing speed/hallucinogens, and I answered it was to keep myself at peak performance for the case, and not just for funsies, which he seemed to buy. He then defended me from the other detectives and said I was sober, even though I don't think I was. But I also might have been my most desperate and inebriated while Kim was gone on two occasions, so who can say for sure?
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Dec 21, 2019 05:10
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Frankly, I still don't get why Revacholian Nationhood is such a fail and discouraged option. Bundled up with all the wömen options. Why? I couldnt bring myself to race theory and reloaded a bunch of times until defeated measurehead in combat but revachol forces you into hatefully hurt Kim, which is I don't know? I simply cannot find a good explanation
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Dec 21, 2019 05:43
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Nationalism is very closely related to racial supremacy and other forms of bigotry. They all boil down to “me and people like me first, we are the best.” Ethnicity is intrinsically linked to national identity for some people. Far right parties like to have names like “National Front” and slogans like “England for the English” etc. Tbh I find it hard to imagine somebody strongly nationalist who isn’t at least a bit racist. Disclaimer: please note being patriotic or proud of your country isn’t the same thing as nationalism, im not saying you’re a racist if you like your country Wafflecopper fucked around with this message at 06:11 on Dec 21, 2019 |
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Dec 21, 2019 06:08
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Wafflecopper posted:Disclaimer: please note being patriotic or proud of your country isn’t the same thing as nationalism, im not saying you’re a racist if you like your country moralist spotted!
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Dec 21, 2019 07:05
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The encounter between Kim and the lorry driver best express two different views of what's best for the nation. The lorry driver's nationalism has an ethnic, pigment-based sense of the nation, whereas Kim is more interested in political autonomy from extra-national actors. Both take pride in something larger than them, but one is from a sense of liberty and the other from inadequacy.
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Dec 21, 2019 07:06
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Looking at the Disco Elysium category on youtube led me to a fun corner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnmUCh7WkJM Gamers are beyond parody
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Dec 21, 2019 07:30
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Note that you can mix and match options with the four political views. In my first run I was somehow both a Moralist and a Communist and Kim made a comment about not being sure how I managed to be both. I'm interested in like, what gets said if you try to be both a Nationalist and a Communist, but the other mixes too, sure, why not. I also kinda want to see someone run Sorry Cop with Fascist. Discriminating against everyone, but... feels really bad about it. What pisses me off is there's no distinction for Moralist (Because you take a center, compromise position, or the status quo position) and Moralist (Because you say "can't deal with this poo poo right now.") I agree that they're essentially the same thing, but they routinely get different prompts, so it's a little weird to me that nothing ever calls out the distinction between the two, or even simply calls them out as the same.
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Dec 21, 2019 07:30
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Any neutral position makes you a spineless Centrist and if you can't deal with pressing issues right there and then you have no moral fiber. Maybe some time in the gulags would help with that?
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Dec 21, 2019 07:50
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First run, Kim said I was a communist and an ultraliberal. That's because every day I was hustling for the working man. And also to pay my god drat hotel bill.
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Dec 21, 2019 08:59
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I think it's a little weird that you've supposedly forgot EVERYTHING about the world you live in, but you've got to have opinions about politics or otherwise you're a MORALIST COWARD. I'm like, I don't even know what the gently caress's money and my tie's talking to me, leave me alone with the politics for 48h for gently caress's sake.
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Dec 21, 2019 08:59
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I think it's a valid read that our boi's memory thing is 95 percent bullshit. It'd be a combination of performance art, a new interrogation style, an excuse to go around saying "but what is money, maaaan" and such, and maybe possibly a way to get out of last night's bar tab. There has to be some genuine amnesia in there to explain certain bits of internal monologue, but it's pretty in-character and the game leaves room for this interpretation. So when he says, "I don't know what's going on but immigration sure sounds scary and dangerous!!!" or "I'm not too clear on the whole money thing but one thing I do know is that the kulaks must be slaughtered this instant," it's just Officer Raphael Ambrosius Costeau trying to be cute and clever. That, or communism is a priori correct and no additional knowledge is needed to understand that capitalism is theft.
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Dec 21, 2019 10:06
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Ixtlilton posted:I had one drink and did speed before the tribunal and got called out for it all. Yeah I had one drink the entire playthrough (just to do that "have a drink" sidequest) and got labelled a no good drunk for the rest of the game. That was lame.
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Dec 21, 2019 10:10
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Frankston posted:I had one drink the entire playthrough (just to do that "have a drink" sidequest) Sounds like addictive behaviour to me; I think you might have a questing problem.
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Dec 21, 2019 10:54
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Hwurmp posted:Sounds like addictive behaviour to me; I think you might have a questing problem. well the game does use this as part of the game-mechanics-as-the-character's-psyche part of the narration. how there is an option when examing the stained glass window to "accept a quest" to give her a figurine while the logical skills tell you this is completely nonsensical but it shows up in your journal as a thing to do. it is clear to the player though that this is harry obsessing over ways he could maybe win back his wife (and refusing to come to terms with it being impossible) and placing "win her back with a gift she doesnt want" on the same priority as "investigate this murder"
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Dec 21, 2019 11:13
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Frankston posted:Yeah I had one drink the entire playthrough (just to do that "have a drink" sidequest) and got labelled a no good drunk for the rest of the game. That was lame. Interestingly enough, I drank twice early on, but my game managed to go on to Day 9, and in the end Kim defended me and said I had been sober for an entire week. Which was true, as I had my second drink on Day 2. (He did, however, call me out on using pyrholidon, which, I did do openly and repeatedly.) I had, however, also internalized the sobriety thought by that point, which I think played a role in the assessment.
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Dec 21, 2019 11:36
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I assume Kim said I was completely sober because I only licked the drink off the counter a little bit
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Now I kinda wonder, if Kim recognizes it if you stay sober during the day, but go full disco once he's off to bed.
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Also Kim has a point that maybe it would be better if Revachol was not being looted by a victorious international alliance for the last 40 years. "Revachol should have some say in its own governance, or at least should actually have a government." is not crazy at all. But that's really not what the Nationalism thought is about.
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Dec 21, 2019 14:19
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Dammit, I think i got stuck with a bug- after completing the field autopsy and Kim leaves with the body, I've got a blank dialogue window open that won't close, and the character is looking around with the mouse but won't move.
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Dec 21, 2019 14:21
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Still halfway through my own playthrough. I was seriously intending to arrest Klaasje ... until I talked to the "Sunday friend"
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Sekenr posted:Frankly, I still don't get why Revacholian Nationhood is such a fail and discouraged option. Bundled up with all the wömen options. Why? I couldnt bring myself to race theory and reloaded a bunch of times until defeated measurehead in combat but revachol forces you into hatefully hurt Kim, which is I don't know? I simply cannot find a good explanation It's so theres no easy way out. I chose a lot of the non racist nationalism options and got called a racist by Kim at the end (although that could be due to internalizing race theory before I understood how thought cabinet worked)
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mastershakeman posted:It's so theres no easy way out. I chose a lot of the non racist nationalism options and got called a racist by Kim at the end (although that could be due to internalizing race theory before I understood how thought cabinet worked) There's a few places where you can fail a check and Harry will blurt out something horribly racist. Lots of people have commented on the worst one, but there's a few places where you'll drop this game's made up slurs if you gently caress up. EDIT: What I'm saying is, maybe old Harry was a horrible, fascist racist. Maybe the cure for Fascism is complete ego destruction through a concentrated regimen of speed, booze and mescaline.
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Utritum posted:Interestingly enough, I drank twice early on, but my game managed to go on to Day 9, and in the end Kim defended me and said I had been sober for an entire week. Which was true, as I had my second drink on Day 2. (He did, however, call me out on using pyrholidon, which, I did do openly and repeatedly.) I think it's internalizing that thought that matters. I used booze a few times early on, some ciggies, and a drug once, but Kim said I wasn't drinking.
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I just noticed, that if you roll up the most average officer with 3 in all stats the Regular Law Official thought becomes purely negative. I wonder if that was intended.
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Dec 21, 2019 16:03
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Have they released the OST yet? Or plans for the next patch?
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Qwertycoatl posted:I assume Kim said I was completely sober because I only licked the drink off the counter a little bit cops can have little a counter alcohol.
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Dec 22, 2019 08:26
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As a treat
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Dec 22, 2019 21:42
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OK, that ending was quite surprising. Now I have to decide if I want to run this again, just with less deaths. Or if I want to do a real failcop run.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Dammit, I think i got stuck with a bug- after completing the field autopsy and Kim leaves with the body, I've got a blank dialogue window open that won't close, and the character is looking around with the mouse but won't move. Game seems buggy, yeah, I get stuck in places and have to reload and it usually resets. But if you get stuck at the end of a conversation or cutscene you can't save... so you have to force-quit and lose some progress.
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I think changing the resolution or text size fixes that bug, something to do with the option to exit not appearing correctly I ran into way fewer bugs than I thought I would fwiw, the only times I ever had to resort to a previous save were times I redid a roll to not disappoint Kim and to see both karaoke options Turns out if you assume Kim knows a lot about pinball because he talks very knowingly about it, that's not what your character assumes lol
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