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Abongination
Aug 18, 2010

Life, it's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come.
Pillbug

mazzi Chart Czar posted:

Hurrrrrr *faaaaaaaaart*

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Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
it's as if a thousand beans; cried out, and went silent

Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

Football

I fffuuuuuuuck

Sydney Bottocks
Oct 15, 2004

Would you like I Fuuuuuck football, Berserker

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



I spoiled myself rotten and went into it with my expectations in the toilet, and I think that helped me come away with it ultimately being "ok." Some fun setpieces. Some novel usese of The Force, which I am all for. I hate the breed of nerd who thinks that the faux eastern mysticism space magic has to have hard and fast rules like a tabletop RPG, memorizing exactly the right spells using the rules in the book. Let it do crazy poo poo, surprise us. It's magic; don't make it predictable "oh well there's Force Push and that's clearly a Force Choke with the extra talents and a lot of pips rolled on the force dice."

Mostly going in knowing Sheev was in it I wanted him to do a bunch of creepy evil space wizard poo poo, and he got to do just that.

Kelly Marie Tran got done dirty. They listened to the backlash and her role is so perfunctory. "I'd love to go on the mission Finn, but General Leia needs me to stay behind and do math." "Oh, here's an incidental line of exposition." "I am also here, in this fight, firing my laser gun. Look I'm even centered in the frame and poo poo."

LOL at how many incidental and big things were a direct rebuke to VII. "Should we try just Holdo Maneuvering the poo poo out of the devil wedges?" "Uh, that was a fluke" "You are the children of nobodies, but your GRAMPA..."

I had a couple friends re-watching I-VIII in preparation and they've been using me as their personal wookieepedia over messenger. One of the things I delighted in pointing out is how much symbolic castration occurs in these movies, and I was wanting to vault over my seats to holler at one of them like a madman "see, see how deep the theme runs?!" when Poe gave the order to start blowing the dicks off the evil triangles.

Mostly thought I am glad that textually, canonically... sheev fucks.

Butterfly Valley
Apr 19, 2007

I am a spectacularly bad poster and everyone in the Schadenfreude thread hates my guts.
It hadn’t occurred to me until earlier but the absolute most blatant gently caress you to Rian was the very first thing Luke did on appearing was catching the lightsaber and saying ‘this deserves to be treated with respect’

Kazak
Jan 10, 2012

Shaocaholica posted:

Can’t tell if this should be ranked above or below ROTJ.

Return is insanely corny throughout, and I haven't seen it in years so I might misremember, but every scene with Luke and Vader after he turns himself in, up to and including the final fight in Palpatines chamber, is real good and a satisfying completion of the Skywalker family drama

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute
Yeah the weaknesses of RotJ are primarily that Ford doesnt give a gently caress and is putting in zero effort because he's sick of Star Wars, and Fisher is completely blasted on cocaine in like 99% of her scenes. Also neither is given much to do and so 2/3rds of the iconic main cast are basically nothing in the movie. Once Luke gets to the actual plot things get good.

Kazak
Jan 10, 2012

The first act at Jabbas palace is just a nice little detour into a quirky corner of the universe without much bearing on the plot, but it has decent stakes for our little group of main characters so it works

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



wanted: tens of millions of people to gently caress off outside the known galaxy for 30 years to be in my rad sith navy that's just gonna kind of mill around for decades until my byzantine plots come to a head
not clear how i'm going to keep you all fed for an entire generation, given the planet is desolate spooky rock place full of evil temples with zero arable land and the sector its in is full of navigational hazards that would make that scale of logistics and resupply impossible to do openly, let alone in secret.

but you will get cool red uniforms and i apparently have an arbitrary number of evil wedges with big dick lasers you can fly around in.

Shaocaholica
Oct 29, 2002

Fig. 5E
Sith troopers had literally no differences from regular white troopers other than the color.

Also I think Finn shoots a bunch of troopers in the back or something. So much for his arc.

Also, knights of ren is a kpop band.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



The horse defectors show how squandered finn was in tlj and in general, he should have been the stormtrooper sparticus.

Shaocaholica
Oct 29, 2002

Fig. 5E
Just lol at the handful of YouTube reviewers positively reviewing ROS seemingly under duress because otherwise the fandom menace will win or something.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Exogol seems like a real shithole. If I'm ever an evil galactic overlord I'm setting up on planet Mediterranean Resort.

Kazak
Jan 10, 2012

What's the deal with the horses in the trailer

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Kazak posted:

What's the deal with the horses in the trailer

The horsemen are stormtroopers who defected and live on one of endors moon.

They were gonna help take out the usual end battle load bearing mcmuffin after being landed near it on the ground but then it was on a star destroyer so they landed on it and raced across the deck for reasons


no one answered the call when the FO fleet was broken at Crait but they managed to rally a flotilla of privateers to get through a navigational hellmaze to take on a million billion death star destroyers lead by space satan

Just Chamber
Feb 10, 2014

WE MUST RETURN TO THE DANCE! THE NIGHT IS OURS!

Owlbear Camus posted:

No one answered the call when the FO fleet was broken at Crait but they managed to rally a flotilla of privateers to get through a navigational hellmaze to take on a million billion death star destroyers lead by space satan

I like to imagine the rest of the galaxy read the script for TLJ and didn't want to be anywhere near that mess.

Nice Guy Patron
Jun 29, 2015
I liked Babu Frik and the lady in the futuristic motorcycle outfit.

The Walrus
Jul 9, 2002

by Fluffdaddy
oh ya babu frik was solid gimme some babu memes internet

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

The Walrus posted:

oh ya babu frik was solid gimme some babu memes internet

Hell yeah

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



my dog died im sad posted:

I liked Babu Frik and the lady in the futuristic motorcycle outfit.

making poe heterosexual was boring tbh

BeefThief
Aug 8, 2007

I just sat through star wars for the fourth time with all my friends and have decided after repeated viewings and payings that i do not like this movie. it is like a trip up j j abrams rear end and through his digestive system in reverse.

please watch my two hour-long youtube videos about how much i hate it (click here for spoilers and here for spoiler free)

you should definitely see this movie just to see for yourself

Cough Drop The Beat
Jan 22, 2012

by Lowtax

Shaocaholica posted:

Can’t tell if this should be ranked above or below ROTJ.

RotJ is pretty drat good though. I know the movie gets poo poo on everywhere, but I feel like most of its issues are goofy 80s cheese which doesn't really age well by today's standards. Plus the last third of the film with Luke, Vader, and Palpatine squaring off is as excellent as the best stuff in ANH and ESB. There's literally nothing 1/1000th as iconic and great as the finale with Vader and Luke owning the Emperor together in RoS.

Relin
Oct 6, 2002

You have been a most worthy adversary, but in every game, there are winners and there are losers. And as you know, in this game, losers get robotizicized!
i was the only person in the theater to laugh when rey blew up the transport. the force wrestling is silly to begin with, but then they have kylos reaction to it, with perfect comedic timing. it ruined what was supposed to be a tragic scene for me

Gianthogweed
Jun 3, 2004

"And then I see the disinfectant...where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that. Uhh, by injection inside..." - a Very Stable Genius.

Sydin posted:

Yeah the weaknesses of RotJ are primarily that Ford doesnt give a gently caress and is putting in zero effort because he's sick of Star Wars, and Fisher is completely blasted on cocaine in like 99% of her scenes. Also neither is given much to do and so 2/3rds of the iconic main cast are basically nothing in the movie. Once Luke gets to the actual plot things get good.

The only bad thing about ROTJ was the stupid overblown song and dance number they added into the special edition. If they just kept original funky disco number in the original version it would have been fine. But that ridiculous over the top cgi cringe fest loud song just completely takes me out of the movie. I think they replaced the original song because it sounded dated in the 90s, but ironically, the 1983 song sounds way less dated today than the 1997 poo poo they replaced it with.

TheIncredulousHulk
Sep 3, 2012

Yeah the big problem with Leia and Han is their arcs are wrapped up like a third of the way through the movie so there's no actual character growth or drama happening while they're blowing up the shield generator, it's just perfunctory Things Happening. Like there's honestly probably more character poo poo going on with Lando during the assault than either of two of the three leads

The throne room scenes by contrast are loving wonderful and the reason I will fistfight everyone who shits on Jedi

CodfishCartographer
Feb 23, 2010

Gadus Maprocephalus

Pillbug
So I kind of loved the movie, but it was insanely stupid. I was fairly critical of it early on, and found so much of the dumb poo poo comical that at some point my brain snapped and I wound up just rolling with it and loved it. gently caress yeah, there's a billion death stars now, oh hell yes Rey is a Palpatine, gently caress it, sure!! Like I cynicismed so hard that I rolled over from negative back into positive. It's definitely not how I wanted the movie to be, or how I wanted it to end, but once I accepted that it was just going batshit crazy I stopped caring and enjoyed going along for the ride.

Like, I get why everyone hates it, and I don't blame them for it at all, but for some reason my brain loves it for all those reasons. It's not quite the same as enjoying something like The Room, I can't quite explain it. I think this movie broke me.

Shaocaholica
Oct 29, 2002

Fig. 5E

Cough Drop The Beat posted:

RotJ is pretty drat good though. I know the movie gets poo poo on everywhere, but I feel like most of its issues are goofy 80s cheese which doesn't really age well by today's standards. Plus the last third of the film with Luke, Vader, and Palpatine squaring off is as excellent as the best stuff in ANH and ESB. There's literally nothing 1/1000th as iconic and great as the finale with Vader and Luke owning the Emperor together in RoS.

I was being facetious. ROS is right there at the bottom dare I say not even on the list.

Mr. Meagles
Apr 30, 2004

Out here, everything hurts


Luke chucking his lightsaber at the very start was awesome and my favorite part of TLJ. He chucks his green one away in Jedi in the Emperor's throne room before he says I am a Jedi, like my father before me. Like he was telling Rey "having this isn't what makes someone a Jedi".

But I guess he just went over and picked it up after Monster Mash fell down the hole.

toggle
Nov 7, 2005

movie stinks. theres no mystery to these movies now

trilogy should of been about the jedi academy with adam driver and the girl as pupils of luke skywalker. with secret jedi dorm room cuddles after dark etc. dancing doonas and glowing shafts

all of these actors were wasted on these movies. ol boyega's lines were made up of saying it once, then repeating it again, but shouting it

im tired of star war

Doom Mathematic
Sep 2, 2008
I like the part where having not one but two lightsabers saved the day.

smug jeebus
Oct 26, 2008
It's bad. The force, the Jedi, all of it, it's all bad.

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)

Tom Gorman posted:

Luke chucking his lightsaber at the very start was awesome and my favorite part of TLJ. He chucks his green one away in Jedi in the Emperor's throne room before he says I am a Jedi, like my father before me. Like he was telling Rey "having this isn't what makes someone a Jedi".

But I guess he just went over and picked it up after Monster Mash fell down the hole.

Yeah throwing away the lightsaber was one of the GOOD moments. Dorks who say it was bad are bad in the brain and just wanted more masturbatory autistic focus on Star Wars iconography

The lightsaber is just a tool, it's not what defines a Jedi. Luke instantly showing this by disregarding Reys reverence for it was awesome.

"Do you think THIS is what it's all about? You idiot, you absolute moron"

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

The weird thing with it is the way it's done, not that it happens. It's like, is this supposed to be a joke? It seems so, but that kind of makes the parallels to RotJ even weirder to me. Really, Luke tossing away the lightsaber is sort of the pivotal moment of the movie, it's the moment when Luke truly becomes a Jedi and rejects aggression and hatred. In TLJ it seems like it's played for laughs. We also flashback to him having his green lightsaber when he's going to kill Kylo, so I guess he just picked it up off screen before dragging his mortally wounded father away so I guess that moment in RotJ didn't really mean much.

Jellymouth
Jul 9, 2009
Fun Shoe
This trilogy didn't do enough to justify it's existence. Like beans in chili, or corn in chili.
At least we have Babu Frik: the best character introduced by these movies. I would die for him.

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

Beans rule.

Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000



Ultra Carp

Just Chamber posted:

I like to imagine the rest of the galaxy read the script for TLJ and didn't want to be anywhere near that mess.

:golfclap:

Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
At this rate by the time we get to star wars 12 they'll need to dig out that dork with elbow-and-knee sabers.

Light Gun Man
Oct 17, 2009

toEjaM iS oN
vaCatioN




Lipstick Apathy
does this movie set some kind of record for the most run time in service of ensuring the notgay status of it's cast?

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Big Beef City
Aug 15, 2013

what does that mean?

Also I'm fairly sure certain pornographies would do that.

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