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Pevan Stan is basically extolling the scientific prowess of Nazi Germany and crediting them with every major American scientific endeavor since WWII This would be surprising were he not, in fact, a fascist. Fojar38 fucked around with this message at 05:42 on Dec 23, 2019 |
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Dec 23, 2019 05:32
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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:I don't think they care one way or another when party functionaries move fluffy values statements around in a different order, as long as the funding continues. Meanwhile, the US is on the cusp of launching it's own nazi-style purge of ethnically suspect scientists and academics. How about that for academic freedom? I think you need to read up on what a "nazi style purge" is and then reassess your position on that article.
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Dec 23, 2019 05:38
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Khorne posted:Does anyone in this thread know why most academics went to the US instead of Canada during the 1900s? Maybe a Canadian will know. While I can't answer your question directly, I do know that we (Canada) had a world-leading aerospace program in the '50s until the Avro Arrow program was abruptly cancelled in '59. The result of which being that a lot of those engineers and what-not ended up going to the US to work for NASA. I couldn't tell you if the following is true (I have a hard time believing it), but I have heard that if we had continued with that program we might have made it to the moon.
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Dec 23, 2019 05:48
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Enoch Root posted:While I can't answer your question directly, I do know that we (Canada) had a world-leading aerospace program in the '50s until the Avro Arrow program was abruptly cancelled in '59. The result of which being that a lot of those engineers and what-not ended up going to the US to work for NASA. I couldn't tell you if the following is true (I have a hard time believing it), but I have heard that if we had continued with that program we might have made it to the moon. Which I think exhibits the underlying reason; funding. The US had deeper pockets to fund large projects.
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Dec 23, 2019 05:55
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Bro Nazi is a fluid term that just mean bad or other. I remember the right using a different label for obama. It doesnt matter if you can point out all the ways the label doesnt work because the point of the label is to mean not good. Also the China thread a few iterations ago talked about the scam that college are doing to chinese students to get that sweet sweet forgien student money, and the how shall we call it, incompatibilities with regard to academic honesty. anyway I am shocked about the germ warfare with the pig farmers, I am suprised the CCP isnt cracking down on this poo poo if could effect the strategic pork reserve
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Dec 23, 2019 06:01
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Ups_rail posted:Bro Nazi is a fluid term that just mean bad or other. I remember the right using a different label for obama. It doesnt matter if you can point out all the ways the label doesnt work because the point of the label is to mean not good. I think Nazi should be reserved for Nazis, people with the same beliefs as Nazis, etc. Calling anyone you disagree with a Nazi is some bullshit and the more people do it the less meaningful the term is.
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Dec 23, 2019 06:12
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therobit posted:I think Nazi should be reserved for Nazis, people with the same beliefs as Nazis, etc. Calling anyone you disagree with a Nazi is some bullshit and the more people do it the less meaningful the term is. Do you ever post in D&D?
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Dec 23, 2019 06:18
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What about cases, like in the case of Pevan Stan, where they are indeed Nazis?
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Dec 23, 2019 06:20
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Ups_rail posted:Do you ever post in D&D? I'm not a tankie so I usually don't chance it.
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Dec 23, 2019 06:22
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Enoch Root posted:While I can't answer your question directly, I do know that we (Canada) had a world-leading aerospace program in the '50s until the Avro Arrow program was abruptly cancelled in '59. The result of which being that a lot of those engineers and what-not ended up going to the US to work for NASA. I couldn't tell you if the following is true (I have a hard time believing it), but I have heard that if we had continued with that program we might have made it to the moon. If they were willing to keep funding it they most certainly would have had a very fine plane. But the Moon? Canada did not have the Aerospace infrastructure and would have to build from scratch as it didn't have ICBM's to piggy back off nor the massive number of scientist and engineers required. Maybe even more important than the rest is the lack of motivation caused by the Cold War. NASA is a civilian agency but the motives especially during it's peak is military. When the Soviets lost the space race funding fell off in a couple years. The end of the Cold War was devastating for funding direct or joint military projects. The Space Shuttle was largely driven by the Airforce and made a lot of classified launches. The Hubble is a direct descendant of spy satellites like Keyhole.
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Dec 23, 2019 06:33
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Fojar38 posted:What about cases, like in the case of Pevan Stan, where they are indeed Nazis? I'unno, Pevan's less a blood-truther and more a rabid oikophobe. Y'know, one of those types screaming for social change so that they can hold the whip for once.
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Dec 23, 2019 07:19
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Khorne posted:Does anyone in this thread know why most academics went to the US instead of Canada during the 1900s? Maybe a Canadian will know. According to Richard Rhodes in the book The Making of the Atomic Bomb, by far the most important determinant of where German and Central European scientists ended up was just where they could get a job. This was especially important given the stringent immigration restrictions common in the thirties. Having a job waiting for you was one way to get past immigrant quotas. Remembering Rhodes's quotes of letters written by prominent physicists, my impression was that most of them would have preferred to end up with positions at English universities in cities like London. However North American schools were rapidly expanding at this time and could make better and more offers than those in England. I wouldn't be surprised if on a per capita basis, Canada got just as or nearly as many of these academics as the US. However the US was just a lot bigger and had bigger schools, so its not surprising that's where most people ended up. Nobel prize winners might have had their pick of labs, but most people just took whatever offers they could get to escape the Nazis.
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Dec 23, 2019 07:23
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WarpedNaba posted:I'unno, Pevan's less a blood-truther and more a rabid oikophobe. I can never quite tell if he's lying to me, lying to himself, or actually believes the bizarre things that come out of his mouth.
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Dec 23, 2019 07:30
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Squalid posted:I can never quite tell if he's lying to me, lying to himself, or actually believes the bizarre things that come out of his mouth. All of the above?
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Dec 23, 2019 07:34
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Squalid posted:I can never quite tell if he's lying to me, lying to himself, or actually believes the bizarre things that come out of his mouth. I actually thought everyone in D&D was ironyposting in my first year on SA. Then I remembered Occam's razor was a thing.
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Dec 23, 2019 07:34
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WarpedNaba posted:I actually thought everyone in D&D was ironyposting in my first year on SA. it was, once upon a time, an interesting sub, back when they actually still had posters who had educational specializations and knew anything about anything. but you know how it is with intellectuals fleeing authoritarian regimes
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Dec 23, 2019 07:46
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The White Dragon posted:it was, once upon a time, an interesting sub, back when they actually still had posters who had educational specializations and knew anything about anything. but you know how it is with intellectuals fleeing authoritarian regimes 
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Dec 23, 2019 07:51
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It's probably not an insignificant part that authoritarian regimes are more likely to promote junk science and quackery that happens to agree with the party line. (see Jewish Physics, Lysenkoism) Then again, under capitalism they're as likely to be denied funding because it's not something profitable like giving old men boners. Or pretending to give old men boners.
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Dec 23, 2019 07:58
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The White Dragon posted:it was, once upon a time, an interesting sub, back when they actually still had posters who had educational specializations and knew anything about anything. but you know how it is with intellectuals fleeing authoritarian regimes I spend half an hour trying to figure out how to make that crack work and you just cut in front of me 
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Dec 23, 2019 08:14
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Orwell: "Imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever" PRC Tankies: "can't wait to put it on"
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Dec 23, 2019 08:43
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oohhboy posted:If they were willing to keep funding it they most certainly would have had a very fine plane. But the Moon? Canada did not have the Aerospace infrastructure and would have to build from scratch as it didn't have ICBM's to piggy back off nor the massive number of scientist and engineers required. Oh don't get me wrong I totally agree with you, it was more that a person way more knowledgeable than I about the subject said that.
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Dec 23, 2019 09:07
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quote:Medics in China remove 18cm glass bottle from man's rectum after he tried to 'scratch an itch' https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/heal...bHP2Gz3Ij_0HTfQ 
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Dec 23, 2019 10:58
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Don't kinkshame. But what the gently caress is up with this: quote:Florida Water is used among things as a perfume, a hand sanitiser or as an insect repellent.
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Dec 23, 2019 11:14
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Darkest Auer posted:Don't kinkshame. I don't think anything can survive Florida's water. Checks out.
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Dec 23, 2019 11:35
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What's the preferred TCM remedy for having a bottle up your bum?
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Dec 23, 2019 11:43
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySd-MYoOFo4
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Dec 23, 2019 12:33
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Ups_rail posted:
Teaching and research are not the same thing ask any academic Academics and college admin are not the same thing ask amy student
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Dec 23, 2019 18:34
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Darkest Auer posted:Don't kinkshame. "Florida water" is a kind of old-fashioned perfume made with citrus extracts. It got the name when Florida was mostly either uninhabited or citrus groves.
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Dec 23, 2019 18:41
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:"Florida water" is a kind of old-fashioned perfume made with citrus extracts. It got the name when Florida was mostly either uninhabited or citrus groves.
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Dec 23, 2019 18:59
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As far as I'm concerned no scientists came to Canada because it is too loving cold here. Also, this was developed here. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAV_III For the moose I can only assume.
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Dec 23, 2019 21:29
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Zushio posted:As far as I'm concerned no scientists came to Canada because it is too loving cold here. I'm pretty sure that was a real complaint of Fermi's regarding Chicago and a lot of other North American cities, he was real sad to have to leave Italy. Looking at the wikipedia list of Canadian scientists however and it's easy to find several who fled the Nazis or came after the holocaust. One example is Gerhard Herzberg, who would go on to win the Nobel prize in chemistry.
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Dec 23, 2019 21:41
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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:Correct, America was a scientific backwater before WWII. This is an amazingly dumb post. No, America was not on Germany's level prior to WWII, but by the early 1900s they were certainly not a backwater. Europeans knew better than that after the wright brothers, and the Walter Reed yellow fever experiments. Even after WWII, although many of the biggest achievements were by foreign born scientists, the new deal investments in science and education were paying off by that point. It was Jonas Salk who found the polio vaccine, Maurice Hilleman measles, mumps, hepatitis, and so on. It was Bardeen who invented the transistor, Shannon information theory. Let's say that this is all a drat sight better than China was doing before WWII.
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Dec 23, 2019 23:24
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twerking on the railroad posted:Let's say that this is all a drat sight better than China was doing before WWII. Hey man, they needed a break. They just finished inventing literally everything that existed in the previous 4,930 years, like spaghetti for example. Did you know?
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Dec 23, 2019 23:38
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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:Correct, America was a scientific backwater before WWII. I know you're a troll but this is idiotic even for you. One of the cornerstones of what became special relativity was an experiment done in Cleveland in 1887.
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Dec 24, 2019 00:03
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There's also the guy who cashed out ahead of the Wall Street Crash and used his wealth to build a world-leading laboratory and paid the travel costs of scientists from across Europe and America to come and visit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Lee_Loomis#Laboratory_at_Tuxedo_Park
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Dec 24, 2019 07:55
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Unlike the rest of this forum, caps gets more active over the holidays. We're clearly the only family he has 
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Dec 24, 2019 14:23
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GotLag posted:There's also the guy who cashed out ahead of the Wall Street Crash and used his wealth to build a world-leading laboratory and paid the travel costs of scientists from across Europe and America to come and visit He also built the world's leading RADAR lab, developing the RADAR that got a huge chunk of Nazi Germany's U-Boats sunk. Also developed the LORAN system. Warbadger fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Dec 24, 2019 |
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Dec 24, 2019 18:34
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Shumagorath posted:Unlike the rest of this forum, caps gets more active over the holidays. We're clearly the only family he has
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Dec 24, 2019 19:29
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https://twitter.com/ChinaDaily/status/1209583274386952192?s=20
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Is this like a Nigerian scam in that they know exactly how stupid it sounds and that's part of the point?
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