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Did Shout! Factory stop re-releasing MST3K DVDs? Volume XII was out in October, and currently there is no new volumes planned at least until April 2020
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ringu0 posted:Did Shout! Factory stop re-releasing MST3K DVDs? Volume XII was out in October, and currently there is no new volumes planned at least until April 2020 There's no more to release. Volume XII was the last Rhino title.
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Dec 19, 2019 18:48
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Cemetry Gator posted:There's no more to release. Volume XII was the last Rhino title. well, release the old ones again! 
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Dec 19, 2019 21:54
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I wonder which ones aside from the Toho stuff they genuinely don't have the rights to.
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Dec 20, 2019 04:03
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Dawgstar posted:I wonder which ones aside from the Toho stuff they genuinely don't have the rights to. Taken from the forrestcrow board/forums: quote:Despite our best efforts to include the remaining unreleased episodes, due to licensing issues, it is very likely that Volume 39 will be the last collection of never-before-released episodes, and that these remaining episodes may never get a legitimate release. Plus, a few others they've lost the rights to: quote:
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Dec 20, 2019 04:09
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I've never really understood that angle regarding Gamera, because my understanding is that even in Japan the Showa Gamera movies are pretty much a laughingstock, and part of the specific appeal of the Heisei trilogy is "holy poo poo these Gamera movies actually don't suck hilarious rear end." You'd think the rights holders would get it.
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Dec 20, 2019 04:18
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So that's why Space Children and Deadly Bees never showed up on YouTube unofficially.
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Dec 20, 2019 04:28
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quote:416 - Fire Maidens from Outer Space Ummmm...
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Dec 20, 2019 08:51
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:I've never really understood that angle regarding Gamera, because my understanding is that even in Japan the Showa Gamera movies are pretty much a laughingstock, and part of the specific appeal of the Heisei trilogy is "holy poo poo these Gamera movies actually don't suck hilarious rear end." You'd think the rights holders would get it. I also wonder how much it has to do with the work that actually goes into a tokusatsu production, even the cheesiest ones: miniatures, costumes, assembly, camera angles, false perspective, stuntmen, pyrotechnics. Maybe they don't like to see that disrespected? Although this still leaves stitched-together TV series like Fugitive Alien and Mighty Jack to consider. Maybe TsuPro figures the damage has already been done by Sandy Frank, so MST can have at it? Or maybe TsuPro just isn't as protective as Toho and Daiei.
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Dec 20, 2019 15:55
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rydiafan posted:Ummmm... Yeah a couple of those might be coming into play sooner or later. Susan Hart beginning to ease her death grip on a bunch of movies might also yield more episodes in the not too distant future.
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Dec 21, 2019 03:17
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What sin could a man commit in a single lifetime to be denied The Amazing Colossal Man.
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Dec 21, 2019 03:58
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Tsuburaya the company is also pretty up for some absurd things
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Dec 21, 2019 04:40
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What I want to know is how War of the Colossal Beast got through. It's literally the sequel to Amazing Colossal Man, still made by Bert I. Goron, did the rights end up somewhere else?
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Dec 21, 2019 09:57
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Same way all of the Godzilla films released in the US before 1998 ended up in the hands of, like, eight different rights holders, and why it took more than 20 years after that for Criterion to be able to release the the entire Showa series in one collection (and even then, they had to compromise with Universal over King Kong vs. Godzilla). In the old days, these rights got passed out to anyone who wanted to pay for them, because no one thought they would ever have any long term value. Now, no one wants to give them up because no one wants to be the person who sold the Next Big Thing for pennies on the dollar before it happens.
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Paper Kaiju posted:Same way all of the Godzilla films released in the US before 1998 ended up in the hands of, like, eight different rights holders, and why it took more than 20 years after that for Criterion to be able to release the the entire Showa series in one collection (and even then, they had to compromise with Universal over King Kong vs. Godzilla). I wonder how many copies of the Mstied versions would actually be sold? I can't imagine if would be even be a blip on their radar.
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Dec 21, 2019 16:37
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I'm just glad my dad got them before they were recalled.
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Dec 21, 2019 18:23
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Is mst3k dead, or can we get a season in Hulu or Disney+?
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Dec 21, 2019 18:24
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Keromaru5 posted:I'm just glad my dad got them before they were recalled. Same (well, I got it myself, not my dad). I need to look and see if there is a decent rip of Godzilla vs. The Sea Monster out there. I have the 15-year-old DAP DVD encode, but unfortunately that was one of their poorer releases. While official (re)releases of the Godzilla and Gamera episodes is unlikely, there is some possible movement on some other episodes. The MST forum thread on likelihood of releases has some good stuff from the past couple of weeks. Susan Hart sued Shout Factory and some others over copyright infringement and things... didn't go well for her. Here's what one person gathered from online PACER documents: quote:Ok, quick rundown of events. So it sounds like it's ongoing but things could be going in Shout's favor. In other news, Paramount's deal with Olive Films supposedly ended this year so Fire Maidens from Outer Space, The Deadly Bees and The Space Children might be in play for a 2020 box set. Someone also suggested that if Shout was unable to determine who owned the rights to Quest of the Delta Knights, they could try going to court and declare it an Orphan work. Very strange to think that we might actually get the Susan Hart movies sooner rather than later, but I am cautiously optimistic that we could indeed see another MST box set next year. It'd be wild if at the end of the day the only episodes we're unable to get are the Godzillas and Rocket Ship X-M.
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Malcolm Excellent posted:Is mst3k dead, or can we get a season in Hulu or Disney+? Joel still owns it and seems intent to try and shop it around.
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Edit: Nevermind, can't read.
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Malcolm Excellent posted:Is mst3k dead, or can we get a season in Hulu or Disney+? I've heard rumors that Netflix locks shows into contracts that somehow prevent them from going to other networks until 3 years after cancellation. No idea how true that is or if MST3K had one of those.
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Dec 22, 2019 05:12
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That three years no compete, unless it’s followed up with payment, is unenforceable in California.
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Dec 23, 2019 06:14
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Also, One Day At a Time was picked up by Pop after Netflix cancelled it.
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PostNouveau posted:I've heard rumors that Netflix locks shows into contracts that somehow prevent them from going to other networks until 3 years after cancellation. People are assuming they actually got canceled some time last year and Joel has been using the tour as an opportunity to pad out the time to keep things in the public until the contract runs out.
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Dec 23, 2019 21:17
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Cemetry Gator posted:Also, One Day At a Time was picked up by Pop after Netflix cancelled it. That was supposedly a weird work-around. CBS (which owns POP) apparently wanted One Day At A Time for CBS All Access because they don't have a flagship comedy original series for that service, but the Netflix contract says it can't be picked up by another OTT streaming service for 3 years, but not that an actual broadcast network can't take it.
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Gaz-L posted:That was supposedly a weird work-around. CBS (which owns POP) apparently wanted One Day At A Time for CBS All Access because they don't have a flagship comedy original series for that service, but the Netflix contract says it can't be picked up by another OTT streaming service for 3 years, but not that an actual broadcast network can't take it.
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Dec 24, 2019 02:26
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I wonder if it would still be too expensive to come back to SyFy.
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Dawgstar posted:I wonder if it would still be too expensive to come back to SyFy. how the gently caress are three sets, five puppets, and maybe four regular cast members too expensive for broadcast television
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Arivia posted:how the gently caress are three sets, five puppets, and maybe four regular cast members too expensive for broadcast television Movie licensing
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Dec 24, 2019 03:11
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The most likely destinations for MST3K are probably; 1) Disney+ or Hulu 2) Amazon Prime Video 3) VRV
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Burkion posted:Movie licensing Also SyFy is allergic to spending more money than they can find in the break room couch cushions.
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Dec 24, 2019 03:27
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MST3K on Disney+ would be worth it if they did some of the various Disney Channel movies. Halloween Town, let's loving do it.
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Funky Valentine posted:MST3K on Disney+ would be worth it if they did some of the various Disney Channel movies. Or a bunch of their older theatrical live action films VRV is also a fairly likely candidate since Shout Factory has a bunch of their stuff(including a lot of classic MST3K episodes) on there, wouldn't be surprised if they decide to make a proper channel on the service with a new season of MST3K as the front runner
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Dec 24, 2019 03:48
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What about MST4K?
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Cemetry Gator posted:What about MST4K? now we're talkin'
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I don't understand how you can cancel a show that was crowdfunded.
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Dec 24, 2019 06:54
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Because the crowdfunding only paid for the first season and Netflix is their distributor.
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Dec 24, 2019 07:14
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Doesn't Rifftrax have its own VOD service now? Get the new show on that, crowdfund new seasons.
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Nessus posted:Doesn't Rifftrax have its own VOD service now? Get the new show on that, crowdfund new seasons. Having the support of a major streaming service is definitely the kind of boon the show could use though
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drrockso20 posted:Having the support of a major streaming service is definitely the kind of boon the show could use though So a major streaming service would mostly provide discoverabilities and potentially access to film rights, except I kind of doubt the latter is likely to happen because MST3k picks fun of things.
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