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Are we certain that she hasn't sold the country to devils in exchange for Philip staying alive? e: 
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Pablo Bluth posted:I'm not sure he hasn't ready but the Queen's already recorded her speech and gently caress if she's going to replace it with recording an eulogy. Prop him up at the dinner table tomorrow then get a friendly doctor to call time of death next week. haha, william just out of sight pulling strings attached to phil's limbs
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Dec 24, 2019 14:45
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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/dec/24/outcry-residents-london-bollo-brook-youth-centre-gentrification-coffee-shop all i want for christmas is for house values to crash
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Dec 24, 2019 14:46
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Chuff McNothing posted:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/dec/24/outcry-residents-london-bollo-brook-youth-centre-gentrification-coffee-shop This is just round the corner for me and holy crap is it every benefit created and problem caused by regeneration in a nutshell. Good to see the Council sticking to their guns.
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Dec 24, 2019 14:48
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Bobby Deluxe posted:I've been thinking about the mostly dumb idea of having a centrist presenting secret leftie as Labour leader. Yeah, the idea that the press is a closed, neutral system that you just have to "play" with an appropriately sensible-sounding frontman is a fiction put about by the press themselves. You become sensible-sounding when the press want you to do well and become a childish, raving leftie when they don't. The press will write the obfuscation themselves when they want to and will literally lie about your policies when they don't. Imo what would serve the left best would be a leader with absolute contempt for the press, who wasn't afraid to deliver messaging entirely through supportive left new media if needs be. Let people see that you aren't playing the game and they'll be more inclined to agree that you aren't getting a fair shake.
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Dec 24, 2019 14:55
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https://twitter.com/DisIdealist/status/1206710635188363266 fascinating look at Labour's election campaign at the local level from my favourite place in the world, which includes the immortal line "Even on the Isle of Wight, where we only recently stopped believing electricity was witchcraft"
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Dec 24, 2019 15:00
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I saw "ancient Greek" trending on Twitter and I assume it refers to this picture
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Dec 24, 2019 15:03
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Guavanaut posted:Are we certain that she hasn't sold the country to FTFY Waiting for London to be kidnapped and placed into a subterranean sea.
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Dec 24, 2019 15:09
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 Every part of this seems preferable to December's news.
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Dec 24, 2019 15:20
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josh04 posted:Yeah, the idea that the press is a closed, neutral system that you just have to "play" with an appropriately sensible-sounding frontman is a fiction put about by the press themselves. You become sensible-sounding when the press want you to do well and become a childish, raving leftie when they don't. The press will write the obfuscation themselves when they want to and will literally lie about your policies when they don't. I think it's fair to say that Labour do have a language problem. Would put good money that something like "We need to consider a new model of customer ownership for underperforming lines" would poll better than "We need to renationalise our ripoff railways." The later sounds dated and makes the back to the 70s thing an easy attack (please note, wrote this quickly). I'm not letting the press off the hook here, I just think we need to sound new and exciting.
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Dec 24, 2019 15:26
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Sounds alright to me generally tbh, I'm not convinced london is real anyway, I've never seen it except on't telly.
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Dec 24, 2019 15:27
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:fascinating look at Labour's election campaign at the local level from my favourite place in the world, which includes the immortal line "Even on the Isle of Wight, where we only recently stopped believing electricity was witchcraft" This is a really strong analysis. All the data shows a good ground campaign can give you about 5%. What a difference that would have made in the red wall.
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Dec 24, 2019 15:28
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Zalakwe posted:I think it's fair to say that Labour do have a language problem. There is a marketing executive in your head. It must be destroyed.
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Dec 24, 2019 15:28
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Guavanaut posted:Are we certain that she hasn't sold the country to devils in exchange for Philip staying alive? Look up at the sky, and if it’s stone and the government are now a group of bats, she probably has.
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Dec 24, 2019 15:30
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Language, Nick Timothy! 
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Beefeater1980 posted:Look up at the sky, and if it’s stone Beefeater1980 posted:and the government are now a group of bats, she probably has. 
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Dec 24, 2019 15:40
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Zalakwe posted:I think it's fair to say that Labour do have a language problem. The language is entirely in the gift of the media; what does Labour's manifesto say about trains? quote:Labour will deliver improvements for Notably absent: the word "nationalise". In fact, it's not used once in the entire manifesto.
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Dec 24, 2019 15:48
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The twitter thread is worthless but there is enough in the article clip to show again how worthless Cameron is https://twitter.com/eurorealist/status/1209036707376619520?s=19
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Dec 24, 2019 15:50
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Guavanaut posted:It's artex plaster, does that count? Beware the asbestos content
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Dec 24, 2019 15:52
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OwlFancier posted:Sounds alright to me generally tbh, I'm not convinced london is real anyway, I've never seen it except on't telly. That's weird cause I'm in London right now
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Dec 24, 2019 16:01
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OwlFancier posted:Sounds alright to me generally tbh, I'm not convinced london is real anyway, I've never seen it except on't telly.
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Dec 24, 2019 16:05
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Rarity posted:That's weird cause I'm in London right now
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Dec 24, 2019 16:09
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Thread-appropriate Christmas song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r840-zSw95M
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I can't get enough of are Dan
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Guavanaut posted:Are there bats? Lots of vampires, that's for sure.
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Dec 24, 2019 16:12
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I was wondering how long it would take for Beanus to show up here. (Go watch Digitiser the show. Its good.)
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Dec 24, 2019 16:14
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Lol having a “ground game” in any town that isn’t in the south east , all the young people have already left so you a) don’t have any young people to canvas b) are already fighting a defensive demoralising battle c) old people will vote conservative anyway because of the young people leaving / change
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Dec 24, 2019 16:24
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josh04 posted:Notably absent: the word "nationalise". In fact, it's not used once in the entire manifesto. That's a fair point but it also isn't realistic to think the press is going to read the manifesto and pull good language from that. All your spokespeople and materials need to be on it. I have so much time for Corbyn but an issue of his for a political figurehead is that he sometimes isn't when he's in front of a camera. Marketing has a lot to answer for but it also works. To an extent Labour need to table break out of a very safe space, even a few flashy headings or adverts could have worked wonders. Why not roll the myriad of nationalisation proposals under a single slogan or talking point rather than talk about the individually? Why not roll out national rail service branding in a similar style to the NHS? The media being crap is no excuse for 'real change' often not sounding like it. Esit:To get the public at large buying in I think what you need is more than a collection of policies but a vision of the future. If you got Corbyn at this election you understood that for him it wasn't really about policy in many ways, but empathy. Many did not get Corbyn due to multitude reasons but on big one which we all agree on. For those people, Mcdonnell had the ideas and the numbers to gave the more analytical something to chew on but in my view he failed to package or communicate it as one vision, hence the emotional argument was lost. namesake posted:There is a marketing executive in your head. It must be destroyed. Also fair. Zalakwe fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Dec 24, 2019 |
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Dec 24, 2019 16:28
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I was actually shocked the first time I moved down south with how many young people were around , the statistics don’t do it justice
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In London it's apparently impossible to find a proper big supermarket and the little metro places you go get are always poo poo and empty and all the staff are properly standoffish, it's bad and I wish some bats would gently caress off with it (ideally while I'm not there)
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Dec 24, 2019 16:31
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horseshoe theory is just a euphemism for "no one likes liberals" prove me wrong
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They just got the shape of the magnet wrong. If you've ever seen a bar magnet attracting metal filings, it's like that. The red end even looks like it gets more filings in that gif. Awesome
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Dec 24, 2019 16:43
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:https://twitter.com/DisIdealist/status/1206710635188363266 This is good, but the implications are bad. Labour really needs to coordinate something instead of leaving it all up to local CLPs, at least giving them the tools and guidance to run similar campaigns. This one sounds really good and I totally get where they're coming from on canvassing Jel Shaker posted:Lol having a “ground game” in any town that isn’t in the south east , all the young people have already left so you a) don’t have any young people to canvas b) are already fighting a defensive demoralising battle c) old people will vote conservative anyway because of the young people leaving / change Eh there were young people flying up and down the country volunteering and running campaigns where needed, but I feel like a lot of that was down to Momentum and Unite organising stuff rather than local parties running their own strats
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Dec 24, 2019 17:04
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Labour went to election on a platform of higher political participation among the people but it turns out people wanted someone to "get things done" so they could have less politics in their lives. Also Labour hitching the wagon firmly on remain.
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I think the U.K. political scene has largely been insulated from USA style neofascist extremism because of the NHS - it’s a huge employer in towns which have nothing left for example
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Katt posted:Labour went to election on a platform of higher political participation among the people but it turns out people wanted someone to "get things done" so they could have less politics in their lives. You can't just magic up that sense of participation overnight though, which was what a lot of canvassers found themselves trying to do on the doorstep. A lot of the places we lost have seen decades of neglect, including under a Labour MP, so there's that embedded mistrust. It's not so much people wanting less politics, just that they don't believe any of it Johnson had a simple message about getting stuff done and his lying wasn't seen as anything notable, meanwhile Labour's reputation was trashed. It ended up being a hard sell
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Got my settled status application approved today, so looks like you lot are all stuck with me for the foreseeable future.
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Coohoolin posted:Got my settled status application approved today, so looks like you lot are all stuck with me for the foreseeable future. Congrats mate, I know what a loving ball ache it is to get sorted you must be crazy relieved!
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Coohoolin posted:Got my settled status application approved today, so looks like you lot are all stuck with me for the foreseeable future. FINALLY a good argument for independence  Welcome mate, good to have you.
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:https://twitter.com/DisIdealist/status/1206710635188363266 As the resident Isle of Wight goon I am reading this with interest. It's good to see that the vote share increased; I totally missed the march and the meeting events somehow despite being in Newport almost every day but it seems like they had some gain. The bit about the Green Party shop stood out to me, I would go past it nearly daily and never seen anyone using it, like at all. Seems like a waste for the Greens? Tactical voting didn't seem to work out for them either way.
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jThomasPaine posted:In London it's apparently impossible to find a proper big supermarket and the little metro places you go get are always poo poo and empty and all the staff are properly standoffish, it's bad and I wish some bats would gently caress off with it (ideally while I'm not there) I'm moving to Barking next month 
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