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Camrath posted:Got to admit comrades, I’m struggling some at the moment. I’d managed to stave off angst, depression etc since the. 12th by basically throwing myself utterly whole heartedly into my fudge business (and again massive thanks to the goons who ordered from me; both for the orders and the useful feedback you’ve given me). Except now all my orders have been sent and appear to have arrived intact, I’ve shut things down for the holidays and am out in France with my parents, and suddenly reality and the realisation of just how hosed we all are is setting in now I have a few days with no distraction. Take a few days off. Have a think about how you personally can make the best of it. There's nothing more you can do right now
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I thought it was becoming fairly well established that people's politics tend to get fairly set at a young age and only change slightly after, or in the face of some seismic event? The inherent problem with most studies is that they go out and ask a bunch of people from each age cohort and see the 18-24s are literal Bolsheviks while the 65s+ think Mussolini was okay, but a little soft. You'd really need to conduct a decades-long study tracking the same people, and you'd need to account for all the different reasons things might change, (and honestly you'd probably want to repeat the experiment several times and in several countries at a minimum) like, for all we know, the boomers would be even more right-wing but x% of them have been softened to centrism or the left because it turns out they have queer grandkids or something. And we all have the anecdotal exceptions to any rule that makes us emotionally predisposed to believing or disbelieving this or that. Hard, sometimes, to remember there's a difference between psychology and sociology. On top of that such generational statements might be influenced by factors that are completely true, but which either have changed or could be changed. Example, maybe people drift moderately but not dramatically right as they age, but if you put lead in their brains, it becomes much worse. Or conversely maybe it can be arrested or reversed by particular educational policies for kids. So even if something were pretty well-proven about people today that wouldn't necessarily always be true. Demographic doom is the same fear the American right has had lately, and I think it's one part of why the right globally seems to be accelerating towards full fash*, when it's clear that at some point you're going to be at risk of losing Texas if nothing changes, well, you need to change something. But the right's purpose is No Changes so their alternative gameplan is A) Whip up the base and B) Disenfranchise the other party through whatever means necessary. *The bigger part is that the system is falling apart around us and the only answer that isn't on the left is "We're not cruel enough to immigrants, minorities, and the poor" but I think the demographic oblivion that has been seen approaching on the horizon for years now plays a part in their desperation as well.
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Ms Adequate posted:I thought it was becoming fairly well established that people's politics tend to get fairly set at a young age and only change slightly after, or in the face of some seismic event? Maybe it's serving in a conflict, or being the victim of a crime, or having a health emergency. Maybe it's something less seismic, like the mentioned queer grandkids, but forces them to confront prejudices. Maybe something even less seismic like having migrant or BAME neighbors that does the same. Or maybe it's chronic and not acute, like spending 20 years with a certain friend-group or actually reading stuff from outside of their usual circle. And that can work in multiple directions. Or maybe what tends to be fixed is a person's material conditions due to group privileges and marginalizations and the seismic event is something that changes that. Is he running for mayor? 
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Dec 25, 2019 00:10
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I got really drunk last week and punched a wall and may have broken something in my hand. So I’m not drinking too much this evening. But as a habitual lurker I just wanted to say Merry Christmas to everyone in the thread - thank you for your year of posting, it’s massively helped me mentally to know that other people out there are trying to make things better, even if we did not get the big success in December we were all hoping for.
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Guavanaut posted:How many people go through 60 years of life without some seismic event though? You misunderstand - I mean literally getting caught in an earthquake will totally reformat your political views  (You're right though)
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Camrath posted:and my father (who I have always adored) being a proud loving Tory and I’m starting to fall apart. I can’t look at him without seeing blood on his hands or knowing that he’s quite happy with thousands of people just like me dying off from neglect, starvation or plain despair. Like obviously they go on to say not you of course, it's different in your circumstances. But everyone has circumstances. Everyone had a bad day or two that launched them down the wrong path. I think conservatives don't like to think too much about things. Instead of looking at someone in poverty and wanting to know how it happened and how it could be solved, they apply a kind of mental tourniquet of whatever right wing talking point sounds like a solution, like 'get a job' or whatever stops the train of thought there. If I could wish for one psychic ability, it would be to prevent that tourniquet, to force their minds to actually face the screaming horror at the end of that train of thought. Like to genuinely face the idea that we are all a few missed meals away from starvation, and that the party currently in power are hacking away at the few threads of the safety net that's left. E: Downstairs there is a bag of presents from my dickbag brexiteer father in law. Part of me doesn't want to open them or accept anything from him, especially with how much he's been gloating since the election. But it'll be stuff I actually want from the Amazon wishlist I had to set up for my in-laws, so whatever I get is going to be marred my the double whammy of knowing that oval office bought it and Amazon supplied it. He also gave us a bunch of money to go away sometime, but I want to either throw it back in his face or donate it to a refugee charity. Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 00:27 on Dec 25, 2019 |
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I_Socom posted:I got really drunk last week and punched a wall and may have broken something in my hand. So I’m not drinking too much this evening. Like why don't you post? Have you seen the state of me sometimes? Actually if that is the case it's probably a good reason to not post. I commend your restraint and thank you for your service crispix fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Dec 25, 2019 |
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Ms Adequate posted:I thought it was becoming fairly well established that people's politics tend to get fairly set at a young age and only change slightly after, or in the face of some seismic event? I saw my parents shift quite dramatically over the last 40 years from being very strictly 'no sex before marriage' , dad: "gays need sympathy and understanding and to stay celibate", mum: "gays should be locked up". The no sex before marriage thing got to the daft extent that in the 1970s they had a couple of friends to stay who weren't married but had 4 kids and they were in a dilemma as to the sleeping arrangements, normally a married couple would get the parents' bed for the stay, and my siblings and I (teenagers at the time) said 'just do what you normally do' and the parents answer was 'but we wouldn't like them to think we thought they got up to that sort of thing' - us: "they've got 4 kids". Anyway, the visitors got the double bed. Now, with an intersex relative brought up as a girl who looked just like her mother and now a man who looks amazingly like his father even to the receding hairline, gay friends, and mum allowing my brother and his partner, and a nephew and his girlfriend to share a double bed without being married, mum's attitude has changed so much (she's now in her 80s). (Dad was a much more sympathetic character anyway). Mum will never vote labour but votes green these days. Alternatively, a friend of mine in her early 40s who still lives with her folks in an area with a high immigrant population because there's no way on this planet she will ever be able to afford her own place (she had an undiagnosed physical condition which meant she couldn't hold down a job for years) regurgitates Daily Express talking points - nazis were socialists, 3 day week was labour (I put her right on that one) etc etc, the bins, voted brexit (probably thinks all the brown immigrants will be kicked out and maybe there'll be a job for her - why should immigrants have well paid jobs and afford their own places but not her?). She's gone from being relatively left to very right wing in about 10 years. So yeah, people can change and either get harder right or softer centre/left depending on experience. I've come to the conclusion that the idea fondly held by the right that 'socialism is the politics of envy' is in fact bollox and it is the right who seriously exercise the politics of envy. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Dec 25, 2019 |
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The immigrants will solve my lovely job idea is a weird one, because like, you know your boss would still want to fire you even if there were no immigrants, so why not focus on that? Anyway I'm glad you're staying Coohoolin, and I hope you don't kill you are parent's Camrath. Everyone post more and I hope the next few days bring at least some moments of happiness.
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This appeared on my facebook - it is hideous. A throw that looks like a pizza. 
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:This appeared on my facebook - it is hideous. I’d eat it.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:This appeared on my facebook - it is hideous. Something something production determines consumption not the other way around. The pointless poo poo we've been getting in at work for xmas has been making me feel extra marxist.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:This appeared on my facebook - it is hideous. That's the worst thing I've ever seen. Imagine being constantly hungry but it's not a real pizza. Not to make a reference that overawes the plebeians but the owner of that throw is the Modern Tantalus.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:This appeared on my facebook - it is hideous. 
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OwlFancier posted:The immigrants will solve my lovely job idea is a weird one, because like, you know your boss would still want to fire you even if there were no immigrants, so why not focus on that? I had a long talk with my mum, who admitted that I’ve ‘opened her eyes’ to how things really are, and that she’s almost as appalled as I am (though without speaking up on it). So there’s that at least. But I still can barely stand to be around my dad. And it sucks because I was always amazingly close to him growing up. I wish I could just give up on him entirely but frankly I just love him too much. Anyway thanks for listening to me. I now have a warm bed, my wife and a stocking for the morning. Which is something to smile about at least. Edit: it’s also Christmas here, so merry Christmas everyone. May Santa Marx gift you all the means of production
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Ms Adequate posted:Not to make a reference that overawes the plebeians but the owner of that throw is the Modern Tantalus. I think personally it would more put me off pizza than achieve that effect tbh.
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Ms Adequate posted:That's the worst thing I've ever seen. Imagine being constantly hungry but it's not a real pizza. I'm hungry and we recently got a 24 hour shop about 10 mins walk away. BUT it's Xmas eve and 1130pm and it shut at 10pm tonight  That pizza throw doesn't help. Also I cleaned my teeth already. My sister bought me a tin of Xmas shortbread for a present. But it got et a few days ago.
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Very cool that government’s anti-semitism adviser has a twitter that’s 50% screaming at Labour MPs for not hating Jeremy Corbyn enough, certainly fills me with confidence. https://mobile.twitter.com/LordJohnMann/status/1207174143025659905
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Also forgot to post this earlier, but it would be peak brexit if Coohoolin's settled status was based in English law, Scotland somehow seceeds from the UK so they can remain in the EU, and his status as an honorary sassenach means he gets booted from an independent Scotland anyway.
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Camrath posted:Got to admit comrades, I’m struggling some at the moment. I’d managed to stave off angst, depression etc since the. 12th by basically throwing myself utterly whole heartedly into my fudge business (and again massive thanks to the goons who ordered from me; both for the orders and the useful feedback you’ve given me). Except now all my orders have been sent and appear to have arrived intact, I’ve shut things down for the holidays and am out in France with my parents, and suddenly reality and the realisation of just how hosed we all are is setting in now I have a few days with no distraction. I can empathise, I've been pretty loving depressed since the election, I'm struggling along throwing myself into a new job (of which i'm already starting to see the flaws, despite it being the best job I've ever done by quite some margin), being a victim of capitalism in MTG Arena, and getting way too little sleep. I've barely done Christmas, I just can't see the point. Solidarity.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Also forgot to post this earlier, but it would be peak brexit if Coohoolin's settled status was based in English law, Scotland somehow seceeds from the UK so they can remain in the EU, and his status as an honorary sassenach means he gets booted from an independent Scotland anyway.  brilliant
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Also forgot to post this earlier, but it would be peak brexit if Coohoolin's settled status was based in English law, Scotland somehow seceeds from the UK so they can remain in the EU, and his status as an honorary sassenach means he gets booted from an independent Scotland anyway. If this happens you're welcome to billet yourself up here in the north and make it your base for the reconquista of your homeland.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:This appeared on my facebook - it is hideous. If you get particularly cold you could make it a calzone and snuggle up inside
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Imagine shagging in/under/on the pizza throw. On the plus side at least you'd never see the stains.
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OwlFancier posted:Imagine shagging in/under/on the pizza throw. I think cum would be visible on pepperoni imo
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crispix posted:I think cum would be visible on pepperoni imo Call it Swedish
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Camrath posted:Throw in a healthy dose of what could be best described as pre-emptive survivor’s guilt (the knowledge that the chances are due to accident of birth and sheer loving luck I’m insulated from what most people with my issues are going to have to go through) It's a goddamn swine to deal with.
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Yeah I'm not worried about that
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Also forgot to post this earlier, but it would be peak brexit if Coohoolin's settled status was based in English law, Scotland somehow seceeds from the UK so they can remain in the EU, and his status as an honorary sassenach means he gets booted from an independent Scotland anyway. This is a weird thing to fantasise about. Coohoolin has a life in Aberdeen. Anyway, it's dumb. When it comes to nationality there is no separate Scots law, and the SNP for all their faults are not ethnonationalists. Do better, be more charitable, it's Christmas. I'm staying up while watching wrestling because I still have wrapping to so. Normally I do it after waking up on Xmas Day but I'm being organised.
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Merry Christmas goons
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MrFlibble posted:Merry Christmas goons Yeah
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hap christ
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