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Trevor Hale posted:Ah. They’re like beer people. https://twitter.com/bugposting/status/1209666705892478976?s=21
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Solice Kirsk posted:Not at all, I'd say they're more like ale people specifically. You see, finish the essay op
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Dec 25, 2019 17:16
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I thought tulpas were like some meditative buddhist thing that got co-opted?
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I Said No posted:I thought tulpas were like some meditative buddhist thing that got co-opted? It is, but most people probably got their only exposure to it from that one X-Files episode with the HOA Golem, so they were basically using it as substitute for Imaginary Friend.
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Dec 25, 2019 18:29
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Home Owners Association Golem? I'm intrigued.
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They also probably got it from the Supernatural episode with the not-ghost and the not-Ghost Adventures guysSolice Kirsk posted:Home Owners Association Golem? I'm intrigued. The will of the HOA made manifest to make sure you keep your lawn perfectly manicured and your house decorations within HOA regulations
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Aren't HOAs too WASPy to summon a golem?
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Accordion Man posted:Aren't HOAs too WASPy to summon a golem? I see you haven't lived in a wealthy jewish community before
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Eox posted:I would wager that most of the cumjar tulpa caretakers got the idea from that X-Files episode and took off running from there. Most of them were trolls that you bought hook, line, and sinker to the point where years later you're still quoting them as an example of a real thing that shapes your opinion of actual marginalized groups. The cumjar isn't even real. 
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I don't know about other posters, but that image isn't what comes to mind when I think of CumJar. The Rainbow Dash one is what comes to mind. You know, someday, I hope to be able to store actual, useful, information in my brain. But welp. E. Also, Lol at referring to Bronies as marginalized groups.
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Sleeveless posted:Most of them were trolls that you bought hook, line, and sinker to the point where years later you're still quoting them as an example of a real thing that shapes your opinion of actual marginalized groups. The cumjar isn't even real. You're discounting the wave of manufactured "multiple identity disorder" stuff around the same time. Dissociative identity disorder is a real thing, albeit fairly rare. Carefully curated portfolios of "OC DO NOT STEAL" LARPing alters is something else entirely.
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Dec 25, 2019 22:22
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CaptainSarcastic posted:Dissociative identity disorder is a real thing, albeit fairly rare. Most psychiatrists actually don't think it's a real thing, the diagnoses are around a very small amount of practitioners, which makes it kind of suspect. And where it does appear, how it appears depends on how "multiple personalities" show up in media.
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From the outside looking in a lot of psychology just seems like doctors kind of throwing darts at a dart board of medication and seeing if it makes the patient feel better or not.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Most psychiatrists actually don't think it's a real thing, the diagnoses are around a very small amount of practitioners, which makes it kind of suspect. And where it does appear, how it appears depends on how "multiple personalities" show up in media. e: ^^^ I mean, kind of. The brain, and mental illness, are incredibly complicated. It's very difficult to treat disorders when we don't have a good understanding of what is causing them and therefore what could help, which is most of them. There is also a ton of variability between people, even those who have the same psychiatric diagnosis. So clinicians basically have to take their best guess what medication, at what dose, will help based on the patient's particular symptoms, and adjust based on how well it works/whether the side effects are tolerable, etc. Stroop There It Is has a new favorite as of 22:50 on Dec 25, 2019 |
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Solice Kirsk posted:From the outside looking in a lot of psychology just seems like doctors kind of throwing darts at a dart board of medication and seeing if it makes the patient feel better or not. Sure hope they will succeed at some point 
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ExplodingSims posted:E. Also, Lol at referring to Bronies as marginalized groups. This so much. Not every widely-mocked internet fetish group are just a nice bunch of people figuring out their sexual identities. Sometimes they're just extremely mockable freaks.
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Solice Kirsk posted:From the outside looking in a lot of psychology just seems like doctors kind of throwing darts at a dart board of medication and seeing if it makes the patient feel better or not. It's pretty much this. A drug that knocks out depression in one person can just make the next person worse. It gets much harder once you start having to use multiple medications because you've run through the normal ones and now you have to stack them while still managing the side effects. It really sucks for the patient.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Most psychiatrists actually don't think it's a real thing, the diagnoses are around a very small amount of practitioners, which makes it kind of suspect. And where it does appear, how it appears depends on how "multiple personalities" show up in media. Even if this were true, psychiatrists are not the end-all and be-all of mental health professionals. The popular conception of "multiple personalities" is radically different from what dissociative identity disorder actually looks like. For the most part dissociative identity disorder is best thought of as a trauma disorder, and in that lens makes a lot more sense.
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CaptainSarcastic posted:Even if this were true, psychiatrists are not the end-all and be-all of mental health professionals. The popular conception of "multiple personalities" is radically different from what dissociative identity disorder actually looks like. For the most part dissociative identity disorder is best thought of as a trauma disorder, and in that lens makes a lot more sense. Dissociative disorder is well recognized and stems from trauma, it’s the Dissociative [i]identity[i] disorder that’s considered an iffy diagnosis. It’s a subtle distinction but it’s a distinction nonetheless.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Dissociative disorder is well recognized and stems from trauma, it’s the Dissociative [i]identity[i] disorder that’s considered an iffy diagnosis. It’s a subtle distinction but it’s a distinction nonetheless. There's a lot of bias against the diagnosis due to it being inappropriately popular for a while, and continuing to be inappropriately popular amongst a few practitioners. There is an unfortunate inertia to diagnosis, like bipolar disorder being in vogue during the 1980s and 1990s, including the highly questionable practice of diagnosing it in children. Getting an accurate diagnosis can include a fair amount of luck, and bias for or against certain diagnoses is a major factor in that. Insisting that "dissociative identity disorder is not a thing" is more a reflection of bias than it is a reasonable judgement of the diagnosis itself.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:This so much. Not every widely-mocked internet fetish group are just a nice bunch of people figuring out their sexual identities. Sometimes they're just extremely mockable freaks. Bronies are the furries of furries
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Hedrigall posted:Bronies are the furries of furries almost every time Ive had to interact with bronies its been in the context of them talking about fbi crime statistics and racial difference in IQ lmao
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Stroop There It Is posted:While I mostly agree with the first bit, I think it's important to point out that how psychiatric disorders manifest being affected by culture and media doesn't mean it's not "real" or that it's being made up/malingering. For example, after The Truman Show came out, a lot of people with psychotic disorders reported paranoid delusions that were clearly influenced by the movie. Sounds like a culturally bound syndrome.
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Tardcore posted:almost every time Ive had to interact with bronies its been in the context of them talking about fbi crime statistics and racial difference in IQ lmao This is always what comes to mind: 
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Bronies a marginalized group? Might as well call libertarians marginalized too
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Libertarians should be marginalized
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Who What Now posted:Libertarians should be marginalized We can only dream
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Solice Kirsk posted:This is always what comes to mind: I'm gonna need some background on this. I can guess what I means but still want some explanation
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Spanish Manlove posted:I'm gonna need some background on this. I can guess what I means but still want some explanation As far as I can remember it was just a brony who didn't understand proper etiquette at friends' weddings. Plural. Found this link regarding it: https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/y47j0/drama_in_rmlp_as_user_shows_up_to_his_friends/
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I'm absolutely reeling at calling bronies a marginalized group. edit: i can believe that the rainbow dash cumjar isn't real but the second half of that post had a physical impact Eox has a new favorite as of 01:06 on Dec 26, 2019 |
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Eox posted:I'm absolutely reeling at calling bronies a marginalized group. As witch of color I looooove bronies pulling the marginalization card. I then spam their inbox with the phrase “A BRONY VOTED” with a picture of a G1 pony.
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teen witch posted:As witch of color I looooove bronies pulling the marginalization card. I then spam their inbox with the phrase “A BRONY VOTED” with a picture of a G1 pony. I accept juggalos and furries as comrades, but I will never support a revolution that includes bronies.
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Eox posted:I accept juggalos and furries as comrades, but I will never support a revolution that includes bronies. 
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Eox posted:I accept juggalos and furries as comrades, but I will never support a revolution that includes bronies. Easily, both have been nothing but nice and sympathetic to legitimate oppression. Bronies...are greasy sex pests an oppressed group?
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teen witch posted:Easily, both have been nothing but nice and sympathetic to legitimate oppression. Bronies...are greasy sex pests an oppressed group? Sometimes sex pests get thrown in prison just for being who they are so maybe that counts as opression, idk
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Dec 26, 2019 01:26
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It is too late. The bronyshirts are already at my door, neighing for blood.
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If I see a brony who isn't a creep and a cretin, I'll gladly accept them. Hell, I know of at least one moderator here, in this very thread, who is a brony and they're one of the coolest, kindest, most compassionate people I've ever had the pleasure of knowing.
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I've seen some cishet people try to claim "furry" is a queer identity, but they usually get shut down pretty drat quick. Furries are better than most at isolating toxic/harmful parts of their community
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Dec 26, 2019 01:41
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The true marginalized group is the mods of something awful
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Screaming Idiot posted:If I see a brony who isn't a creep and a cretin, I'll gladly accept them. Hell, I know of at least one moderator here, in this very thread, who is a brony and they're one of the coolest, kindest, most compassionate people I've ever had the pleasure of knowing. 
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