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BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000


I can always count on you, Platystemon :glomp:

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Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!
Okay, but how do they hoist that contraption on themselves without hands?

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

I don't ask questions I don't want to know the answer to

Ursine Catastrophe
Nov 9, 2009

It's a lovely morning in the void and you are a horrible lady-in-waiting.



don't ask how i know

Dinosaur Gum

BattleMaster posted:

Quick, someone post that animation someone made that shows how ponys are supposed to be able to hold and fire guns in Fallout Equestria.

So much effort has been put into that one fanfic that you have to wonder if something useful could have been done with that effort instead

The only thing I know about it is that there’s a hardcover printing of it, and god willing that will remain the only thing I know about it

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Paladinus posted:

Okay, but how do they hoist that contraption on themselves without hands?

:nws:

https://i.imgur.com/FflgCWf.png

Hedrigall
Mar 27, 2008

by vyelkin

fauna posted:

it always resonated with me when people complained about furries only ever choosing from a select group of animals. why are they all wolves and felines? where are the mustelids, the ungulates, the pinnipeds, the non-monkey primates? why do the big five of africa draw billions of tourist dollars but not a single fursona? these are the only questions i ask of the subculture. in every other way i am ok with them

There are thousands of furries with fursonas of each of those and many other unique animals in the fandom. Sure they’re outnumbered by the canids and felids, but you have no idea what you’re talking about when you say there’s none of the things you name

Mx.
Dec 16, 2006

I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!


BattleMaster posted:

Quick, someone post that animation someone made that shows how ponys are supposed to be able to hold and fire guns in Fallout Equestria.

So much effort has been put into that one fanfic that you have to wonder if something useful could have been done with that effort instead

"one fanfic"
there's fanfics of the fanfic. there's millions and millions of words about my little ponies but it's fallout. there's multiple fan games. so much fanart. fursuits. animations. everything.
lol

rodbeard
Jul 21, 2005

fauna posted:

i actually had no idea what fallout equestria was about. i assumed it was fallout, which is some alien thing, in equestria, which is the pony kingdom, and that's all i know about either of these intellectual properties or any fan-created derivatives thereof. thanks for letting me know

e: if i ever see my old classmate again, i'm going to tell him he's a modern marquis de sade

He wrote a horse rape porn that's longer than war and peace. I in all seriousness think you should avoid him if you ever see him again.

Steadiman
Jan 31, 2006

Hey...what kind of party is this? there's no booze and only one hooker!

silly sevens

Paladinus posted:

Okay, but how do they hoist that contraption on themselves without hands?
Somehow sex will be involved in the answer

Grem
Mar 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 21 days!

Hedrigall posted:

There are thousands of furries with fursonas of each of those and many other unique animals in the fandom. Sure they’re outnumbered by the canids and felids, but you have no idea what you’re talking about when you say there’s none of the things you name

Nice avatar, you seem like an authority. I challenge you to find a Boni Giant Sengi fursona

Mx.
Dec 16, 2006

I'm a great fan! When I watch TV I'm always saying "That's political correctness gone mad!"
Why thankyew!


Grem posted:

Nice avatar, you seem like an authority. I challenge you to find a Boni Giant Sengi fursona

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

rodbeard posted:

He wrote a horse rape porn that's longer than war and peace. I in all seriousness think you should avoid him if you ever see him again.

I don’t think the dude wrote the actual, “one of the longest things ever written fanfic”, he wrote porno fanfic of the incredibly long fanfic. I can’t decide if that’s better or worse.

Count Uvula
Dec 20, 2011

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Grem
Mar 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 21 days!

Well I'll be damned!

rodbeard
Jul 21, 2005

Ugly In The Morning posted:

I don’t think the dude wrote the actual, “one of the longest things ever written fanfic”, he wrote porno fanfic of the incredibly long fanfic. I can’t decide if that’s better or worse.

Oh he said he was the king of clop and internet famous so I thought he was claiming to be the original guy. I hadn't considered someone writing a porn fanfic of a porn fanfic.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Platystemon posted:

Not only do they use the same animals, but their depictions of them all look same‐y.

It’s like it’s the obsessive fandom for a series of films that doesn’t exist.

It's more the obsessive fandom amalgamating anything and everything that suits its fancy, with its own trends, styles and sub-subcultures. I think at this point singular 'fursonas' are almost out of fashion, or downplayed in favour of characters rotated in and out depending on what the artist/personality is into as of that particular moment.

Hedrigall
Mar 27, 2008

by vyelkin
This diagram illustrates the evolution of furry art zeitgeist

https://twitter.com/sadtheropod/status/1087495918637760514?s=20

Hedrigall
Mar 27, 2008

by vyelkin
The thinnening was a dark time of which we don’t speak

ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

-=SEND HELP=-


Pillbug

One More Fat Nerd posted:

The last i read about DID, if it exists as its own thing, its basically a culturally bound way of expressing Borderline Personality Disorder. Its not "multiple personalities'", its more like "no personality", just acting however you think the person/people you're interacting with want to see.

Dissociative disorders exist but they're mostly related to trauma. In particular childhood trauma of the really bad varieties tends to cause dissociation. It isn't limited to that, though. One of the roots is that children are basically totally reliant on adults, especially their parents. If a parent abuses a child badly enough they'll just mentally check out and disconnect from certain parts of their brain. If they do it enough it becomes a full-fledged disorder that can persist for life. It's probably memory-related as people tend to not remember the things that caused it. Things like depersonalization, derealization, and trauma bonding are also things that are related.

The short of it is that it's a defense mechanism. If poo poo gets too real the brain can just kind of disconnect from the experience. It obviously still happened and the brain has probably encoded memories but it can also disconnect from those. Multiple personality disorder is controversial because there really isn't enough brain hardware there to have more than one, fully formed personality in a person's head let alone many. I think a few cases have been discredited as a person really just making it up. In real cases what's actually going on often is that there's only one personality but the fragmenting that the dissociation response ultimately is has resulted in different chunks turning on and off at different times. Since it's memory-related that can mean the person remembers different things depending on what chunks are on or off. There are suggestions that this is related to people who enter into fugue states.

Since borderline disorder tends to be related to childhood trauma as well it tends to come along with PTSD and dissociative disorders. The kind of childhood that leads to borderline disorder is frequently not only abusive but not allowing the child to form their own identity or making them question it. Since the person the child is becoming is treated as wrong and bad they have to not be that which is damaging to core identity. On top of that neglect can also cause identity issues or childhood trauma as children will do basically anything to get their parents to take care of them. It's a survival mechanism if you look at it from a purely functional standpoint. Being rejected by your parents registers as a death threat because in a lot of ways it is. It can get you through childhood sure but it fucks you up in the long wrong. So you basically become somebody else to get your parents to take care of you which then becomes how you interact with the world Borderline disorder also has some controversy around it but is also a bitch and a half to treat. It's also commonly misdiagnosed; complex PTSD is an up and coming thing that looks like borderline disorder but is its own thing. In any event the fact that BPD almost always comes with PTSD, dissociation issues, and identity disturbances shows that there's a lot of relation between all of the various trauma responses.

fauna
Dec 6, 2018


Caught between two worlds...

Hedrigall posted:

This diagram illustrates the evolution of furry art zeitgeist

https://twitter.com/sadtheropod/status/1087495918637760514?s=20
i love this, thank you

Moon Slayer
Jun 19, 2007

I hate it. gently caress you.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth
I'm indifferent to it. Exist, you.

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



Hedrigall posted:

This diagram illustrates the evolution of furry art zeitgeist

https://twitter.com/sadtheropod/status/1087495918637760514?s=20

I actually forgot there was a time all the furries looked like balto and suddenly turned into sparkle dogs

Moon Slayer
Jun 19, 2007

I'll be honest, I'm just coming around to the idea of "all furries shouldn't be banned on sight," it's going to take me a while to get to "all furries shouldn't be mocked relentlessly."

ArfJason
Sep 5, 2011
Furries im indifferent about because these days theres worse poo poo but lol at people going "But oh bronies, THOSE guys suck" when everything im reading in this thread has had furry equivalents except probably fanfictions that rival proust in length.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014


Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

Jeopardy got weird

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



Aslan is God's fursona

Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron


ArfJason posted:

Furries im indifferent about because these days theres worse poo poo but lol at people going "But oh bronies, THOSE guys suck" when everything im reading in this thread has had furry equivalents except probably fanfictions that rival proust in length.

Rest assured there’s furry themed writing of similar length.

From the Lion King fandom subset alone there’s, for example, the ‘Chronicles Of The Pridelands’ saga which is about 1000 pages in the 3rd edition across four volumes, and probably more like 1500 across gently caress knows how many in the second.

Many many years ago as a teenager I printed out the whole thing and got screamed at by my dad for using like three or four printer cartridges up.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007
you can take wild claims about fanfiction length and extend it to serial fiction in general

if the web-serial thread in TBB is anything to go by then those stories are pooh-poohed if their word counts aren't at least in the mid-to-high six digits

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug
50 years ago Henry Darger’s 15000 pages of insanity and barely-masked pedophilia was a famous discover and lauded as the life’s work of an outsider. Today that’s just fanfiction.net.

Wes Warhammer
Oct 19, 2012

:sueme:


A tragedy in two acts.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Clit T Brown was the greatest blues musician of the 1910s

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!
I assume Clit is short for Clittord.

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

Paladinus posted:

I assume Clit is short for Clittord.

The big red hog

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Ugly In The Morning posted:

50 years ago Henry Darger’s 15000 pages of insanity and barely-masked pedophilia was a famous discover and lauded as the life’s work of an outsider. Today that’s just fanfiction.net.

Complete with the author very clearly having no understanding in the slightest of female anatomy.

Bronies are more of a specifically toxic mess since they're actually much less LGBT+ than furries at large and instead have massive overlap with incels. (Since they basically just act like everything about anime perverts but with cartoon ponies instead)

Ghost Leviathan has a new favorite as of 17:55 on Dec 26, 2019

doingitwrong
Jul 27, 2013

I was unaware of Zaurg before today. Now I’m spending a lazy Boxing Day alternating between reading his last thread with my jaw hanging open and thinking about how I can better my own finances and savings situation. Truly, a time of reflecting and self improvement.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

doingitwrong posted:

I was unaware of Zaurg before today. Now I’m spending a lazy Boxing Day alternating between reading his last thread with my jaw hanging open and thinking about how I can better my own finances and savings situation. Truly, a time of reflecting and self improvement.

Spend less on candles and stop buying red texts

Ariong
Jun 25, 2012

Get bashed, platonist!

ArfJason posted:

Furries im indifferent about because these days theres worse poo poo but lol at people going "But oh bronies, THOSE guys suck" when everything im reading in this thread has had furry equivalents except probably fanfictions that rival proust in length.

Basically what it comes down to is that I regularly see cool furries, but have almost never met a cool brony.

“Cool” in this instance meaning not a shithead.

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Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

.

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Complete with the author very clearly having no understanding in the slightest of female anatomy.

Bronies are more of a specifically toxic mess since they're actually much less LGBT+ than furries at large and instead have massive overlap with incels. (Since they basically just act like everything about anime perverts but with cartoon ponies instead)

Some of the absolute worst real life transphobia I've encountered has been from a couple of my gay friends. Just being LGBT doesn't mean you can't be toxic.

And I'm talking real bad here.

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