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josh04 posted:Now you have an even bigger insane VFX workload, and proportionally less money to spend on it. You think these Cats look bad, these are the best Cats money can buy. TV grade VFX cats are beyond mortal conception. I figure they'd be in something closer to the stage costumes.
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Uncle Wemus posted:did robotnik nudes ever return from his acid trip I think so. It was a strange experience. My sense of body and being a cat or not, not to mention my perception of my own cat was pretty messed up for a while and I got to spend six hours with SKIM BLE SHANKS THE RAIL WAY CAT Running in my head on a hell-loop.
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The Little Death posted:The second time was interesting because up until that point I'd been willing to treat at least some of what happened in the musical numbers as non-diegetic. Then she uses her unzipping skin to escape her chains, and that second time my skin crawled like I had tap-dancing roaches with human faces underneath it. It's not a film willing to let you assume or forget anything. See: the return of the child-mice where they plead for their lives.
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I think there's a coherent logical line from understanding that the appeal of Cats is the performances -> filmed play performances not translating well to film (and also already existing) -> using CG as a way to give the performances themselves a cinematic texture (rather than just overhauling the plot, sets, etc. to make them more 'filmic', operate in 3D space, etc.). I think its actually a pretty clever solution, adding a degree of wonder @ the technical skill involved in reproducing the technical skill of the performers (and also, pretty clearly showcasing the performers, like Rum-Tum-Tugger, over the priorities of the actors conveying 'plot'). obviously the inconsistency of the cg makes that 'wonder' maybe more like 'bafflement' or disorientation but the movie leans into that with its canted angles & as mentioned, the sort of weird purgatorial undertones of this dimly-lit totally uninhabited space, which, with the Jenny-Any-Dots performance creates this instant sort of aesthetic sensibility that immediately has u wondering like...what would a 'dog' look like here ? U watch the cat tap dance and its conceptually and literally baffling, but genuinely surprising & impressive, if ur open to it anyways
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DeimosRising posted:Who the gently caress would want to watch that I mean you wouldn't axe every single one, it would just be Disney-movie levels of songs rather than "the entire thing is songs" Jellicle Cats, Rum Tum Tugger, Skimbleshanks and Memory would all stay full songs in this idea off the top of my head (because you literally can't get rid of the first and last and still call it Cats, and the middle two are actually good songs) e: But I mean, like, Jennyanydots doesn't need a full song, Macavity in theory needs one but his villain song sucks so bare minimum he'd need a different one, Mister Mistofelees' song isn't terrible but is just conceptually weird and could probably go without issues There's songs you'd have to keep, but there's also plenty that you could cut and just do what I said and have it hurt nothing WeedlordGoku69 fucked around with this message at 06:06 on Dec 28, 2019 |
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Hat Thoughts posted:-> (and also) -> as a way to (rather than etc. 'filmic', , etc.). I thought it would be interesting to shorten your post but otherwise keep the structure intact.
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Theater kids would burn down the theaters if they cut Mr. Mistofoles song
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I hope to god this movie hits Netflix in March or something, I wanna see it again but can’t really justify paying to see it again.
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Dumb Lowtax posted:I thought it would be interesting to shorten your post but otherwise keep the structure intact. i dont know computer (proudly) but enjoy coding bootcamp soldier
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https://twitter.com/lrbarrit/status/1210725282543357952 😿😿
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The Little Death posted:The second time was interesting because up until that point I'd been willing to treat at least some of what happened in the musical numbers as non-diegetic. Then she uses her unzipping skin to escape her chains, and that second time my skin crawled like I had tap-dancing roaches with human faces underneath it. Like I said, nightmare logic.
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Hat Thoughts posted:i dont know computer (proudly) but enjoy coding bootcamp soldier No computer stuff here, that's literally the weird symbols and dividers that you typed with your actual keys
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Robotnik Nudes posted:Theater kids would burn down the theaters if they cut Mr. Mistofoles song It's iconic to Cats as a stage musical, but even by the standards of this musical it's kind of inexplicable, and in the movie it didn't match up very well with his characterization outside the song (where he seems to be kind of a barely-tolerated dingus rather than the adored Cat David Copperfield the song portrays him as) I feel like it's the kind of cut you could justify by saying that it doesn't work in a movie that's not just 1:1 Literally The Musical
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That's literally the only moment of any song in the entire musical that's stuck in my head, but it plays in my brain 24/7 and I don't know how to stop it.
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I'm guessing the trailer doesn't do this justice? I mean, I've never had any interest in CATS but the musical was just annoying singing and dancing people in 80s cat makeup and this movie looks like the same thing only they're in 2010s cat CGI.
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Dumb Lowtax posted:No computer stuff here, that's literally the weird symbols and dividers that you typed with your actual keys Woah..😯 thats so crazy
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SidneyIsTheKiller posted:I'm guessing the trailer doesn't do this justice? I mean, I've never had any interest in CATS but the musical was just annoying singing and dancing people in 80s cat makeup and this movie looks like the same thing only they're in 2010s cat CGI. There is a drat good reason this thread is as big and stupid as it is.
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SidneyIsTheKiller posted:I'm guessing the trailer doesn't do this justice? I mean, I've never had any interest in CATS but the musical was just annoying singing and dancing people in 80s cat makeup and this movie looks like the same thing only they're in 2010s cat CGI. As far as I can tell they tried to make the cats more cat-like, and it drops it so firmly at the bottom of the uncanny valley that it is, as other have said, like watching a nightmare. It's not even repulsive, just wrong in some fundamental way that makes you squirm.
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weekly font posted:There is a drat good reason this thread is as big and stupid as it is. At this point I'm convinced goons are responsible for at least a fifth of this movie's box office.
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OK, this post here is kind of selling the absurdity to me, I admit:goodog posted:I got to see the version without the FX patches, since they didn't bother shipping it overseas. In a small way the missing CGI makes it better, since you visualise what the poor actors were doing on a sound stage. Its like how that leaked workprint of Wolverine is better than the finished movie.
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Delthalaz posted:When is this poo poo out on blu ray? It just hit theaters a few weeks ago. Probably March-ish.
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SidneyIsTheKiller posted:OK, this post here is kind of selling the absurdity to me, I admit: I'd disagree with most of that. I felt real emotion in her performance and I'm sure she was actually crying (though no doubt you'd have to CG that into the face replacement.) Totally glad the camera was just on her face and not swooping around. I didn't know Ray Winstone was gonna be in the movie. I want a sequel based solely on his cat (but he might have died?) Cats>Rise of Skywalker Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 09:15 on Dec 28, 2019 |
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if theres one thing that Cats lore makes clear it is that death is not an end
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Is there a novelization of CATS? No T.S. Eliot please
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Timby posted:At this point I'm convinced goons are responsible for at least a fifth of this movie's box office. Wouldn't be too hard.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Wouldn't be too hard. 
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Fun thread on r/vfx with artists recriminating over who's to blame: https://www.reddit.com/r/vfx/comments/efw594/somethings_for_us_to_learn_after_cats_fiasco/quote:Just want to add my perspective on it. You’re right, the post is not what I saw working on cats.
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Lol I forgot that they rotoscoped the whole thing. No wonder they missed so many little details. Jesus I feel bad for those animators. E: I realize that's the only way things like the hand could possibly happen, but like that is an enormous amount of work to take on for a production as heavily stylized as this. That piece mentions the other big nightmare part of the movie, that the cats vary wildly in size from scene to scene in ways that are totally disorienting. When the dog is barking at the door it looks like it would be a Cerberus sized animal next to the cats. Also the mice and roaches are the proportion size for humans, not cats. Beelzebufo fucked around with this message at 11:29 on Dec 28, 2019 |
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Another post on the VFX subreddit says that after Tom Hooper hated the work of the first VFX studio he hired, the parent company outsourced it to another studio they owned. In India. The Indian team had assisted on The Lion King but were totally unable to handle Cats by themselves. So their sister studio in London was brought in to work on some key components. Trouble is, the departments that specialize in that sort of thing had been decimated after The Lion King was completed.
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goodog posted:Another post on the VFX subreddit says that after Tom Hooper hated the work of the first VFX studio he hired, the parent company outsourced it to another studio they owned. In India. Tom Hooper is the guy who thought the SPLAT in Les Mis was a good idea, so gently caress him anyway. (It's terrible to see effects studios wrecked because of underbidding and being over-worked.)
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Mister Mistofelees is a girl cat. 'And not long ago, this phenomenal cat produced seven kittens right out of a hat' He's a girl cat. The family thought he was a boy cat and then he had kittens so whoops, no, he's a girl cat, that is the joke It's a poem for children!! I'm glad everyone else knows Skimbleshanks now, I was a fan of the direct-to-video production back in the day and he is definitely the best cat.
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The Saddest Rhino posted:What is the splat? when Javert hurls himself off a bridge to his tragic death, there's a hilarious misplaced 'crunch' noise when he hits the weir beneath. It's amazing.
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In the les Miserables movie, Javert leaps to his death with an awkward, anticlimactic splap https://youtu.be/hRzvdQh8D2Q
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Teenage Fansub posted:I didn't know Ray Winstone was gonna be in the movie. I want a sequel based solely on his cat (but he might have died?) Good news, there's an entire ten minute musical number in the original show all about his character, Growltiger! it is traditionally cut from all showings after the original theater run in the 80s because it is incredibly, uncomfortably racist
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