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Nice uh, um, manatee defense. Loser.
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Elephant Ambush posted:Only because you asked me too. I disagree that it's embarrassing to fight against bigots but okay. 
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Dec 28, 2019 08:30
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Elephant Ambush posted:Only because you asked me too. I disagree that it's embarrassing to fight against bigots but okay. It's not embarrassing to do that. It's also not at all what you're doing in this thread, and what you are doing is deeply embarrassing and offensive
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Dec 28, 2019 08:31
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Spanish Manlove posted:Nice uh, um, manatee defense. Loser. You get a gold starfish, for effort
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Fantastic Flyer posted:Not nearly as long as Jim's face  fair enough
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Dec 28, 2019 08:32
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Yeah motherfucker, how do you like the taste of that dolphin dive
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Heath posted:I don't think it ever reached this scale but I think that yes, that has in fact been suggested if not necessarily acted upon. Somewhere in the far reaches of my memory I feel like there has been at least one major purge of ATRDW for things skirting the line of hentai. I am fuzzy on details and maybe someone with a longer memory than me can elaborate. There have been multiple adtrw purges over the years
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Dec 28, 2019 08:32
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Spanish Manlove posted:Yeah motherfucker, how do you like the taste of that dolphin dive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8yVv5cRHic
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Dec 28, 2019 08:35
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Spanish Manlove posted:Yeah motherfucker, how do you like the taste of that dolphin dive franco im curious whether you remember PMing me when i was a babby poster and offering to help me post better 
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Dec 28, 2019 08:35
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I'm not sure what "sealioning" means, so I'm just gonna take that as my cue to go to bed. Can someone PM me and let me know if I have to tell Elephant Ambush to gently caress off in the morning please? Thank you.
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Krankenstyle posted:There have been multiple adtrw purges over the years The only specific thing I can seem to remember involved some kind of Anime Which Shall Not Be Named that featured a teacher's questionable relationship with his very young student, and the fans of the show getting run off or banned from discussing hit, hence the refusal of posters to name it (also I'm not actually sure what it's called)
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Dec 28, 2019 08:36
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Solice Kirsk posted:I'm not sure what "sealioning" means, so I'm just gonna take that as my cue to go to bed. Can someone PM me and let me know if I have to tell Elephant Ambush to gently caress off in the morning please? Thank you.  i do not believe you were sealioning but here is the definition of it
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Dec 28, 2019 08:37
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CascadeBeta has directed all anger at transphobes and bad faith posters exclusively and a lot of effort has been made to paint every post as "hysterical" to make it seem like the transphobes were the calm rational correct ones.
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Dec 28, 2019 08:37
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Reopen QCS.
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Dec 28, 2019 08:39
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razorrozar posted:franco im curious whether you remember PMing me when i was a babby poster and offering to help me post better I remember, but I guarantee no one would believe you in that I actually did try to put forth effort into making things better.
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Dec 28, 2019 08:39
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yeah there are probably still a couple people making fun of posters who post embarrassing poo poo x and y because they hold those posters' identity/race/etc in contempt, and I acknowledge that mocking bad posts can provide camouflage for such behavior that shouldn't be tolerated. Hopefully the forthcoming transfer mod will be able to suss out the bad actors I don't believe that to be the case for most posters however, or that it's surreal to think that there are bad posts worth making fun of on their own merits ps. the new posters that came after reopening should be looked at especially skeptically in thsi regard
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razorrozar posted:
Asking for evidence and responses and expressing civility is a form of harassment now? Am I reading this right?
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razorrozar posted:
Here's the comic that originated the term as well: http://wondermark.com/1k62/
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razorrozar posted:she has a lot to be angry about, and regardless of whether you want to make fun of her posting you should not make fun of her or anyone else for being a member of a minority and fyadites are continuing to do that under a thin veneer of deniability and you are posting in bad faith so im going to disengage from you now. toodles Fwiw, as a non fyad poster, it really reads like making fun of CascadeBeta's posts, at least now (but lots of transphobic posts got people banned in the last couple weeks for sure). I'm not saying that in a tone policing way or anything, just like, if she'd made those posts as a Star Citizen subforum poster complaining about fyad mocking Star Citizen-obsessed people in that forum (like replace trans with star citizen in her posts), she'd be getting no sympathy as a victim of fyad bullying.
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Dec 28, 2019 08:41
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Heath posted:Asking for evidence and responses and expressing civility is a form of harassment now? Am I reading this right? Pretty much, yeah. Welcome to modern discourse
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Dec 28, 2019 08:42
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Spanish Manlove posted:I remember, but I guarantee no one would believe you in that I actually did try to put forth effort into making things better. it is possible that there is an irreparable divide between our personal definitions of good posting. regardless i still appreciate that you reached out to me 
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Dec 28, 2019 08:42
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Heath posted:Asking for evidence and responses and expressing civility is a form of harassment now? Am I reading this right? it's contingent on perceived false civility, which is not at all easy to project on someone you disagree with
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Dec 28, 2019 08:43
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Heath posted:The only specific thing I can seem to remember involved some kind of Anime Which Shall Not Be Named that featured a teacher's questionable relationship with his very young student, and the fans of the show getting run off or banned from discussing hit, hence the refusal of posters to name it (also I'm not actually sure what it's called) That series was really, really, really bad. It cannot be overstated just how terrible it is and you're better off not knowing the name. Fantastic Flyer has a new favorite as of 08:47 on Dec 28, 2019 |
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sourdough posted:Fwiw, as a non fyad poster, it really reads like making fun of CascadeBeta's posts, at least now (but lots of transphobic posts got people banned in the last couple weeks for sure). I'm not saying that in a tone policing way or anything, just like, if she'd made those posts as a Star Citizen subforum poster complaining about fyad mocking Star Citizen-obsessed people in that forum (like replace trans with star citizen in her posts), she'd be getting no sympathy as a victim of fyad bullying. if you do not see the difference between mocking someone for something they have control over like being a Star Citizen fan and mocking someone for something they have no control over like being transgender then we have very little to say to each other, im afraid
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Heath posted:Asking for evidence and responses and expressing civility is a form of harassment now? Am I reading this right?
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Dec 28, 2019 08:45
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razorrozar posted:it is possible that there is an irreparable divide between our personal definitions of good posting. I have lost the will to actually try unless I'm really bored or I'm posting about guitars
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Dec 28, 2019 08:45
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Jonathan Fisk posted:it's contingent on perceived false civility, which is not at all easy to project on someone you disagree with "Bad faith" does seem to be the word of the day around here nowadays, as calling something "bad faith" appears to absolve anyone of having to respond to a point because it's simply assumed to be self-evident that the argument has no merit because the person saying it is a bad actor, or else they wouldn't have said that thing to begin with.
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Heath posted:Asking for evidence and responses and expressing civility is a form of harassment now? Am I reading this right? It is when you use false civility as a thin veil over harassment, but that's not at all what Solice Kirsk was doing and Elephant Ambush is just having a meltdown Comes from this  Spanish Manlove posted:Pretty much, yeah. Welcome to modern discourse That's what happens when the appearance of civility is used in bad faith.
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Heath posted:"Bad faith" does seem to be the word of the day around here nowadays, as calling something "bad faith" appears to absolve anyone of having to respond to a point because it's simply assumed to be self-evident that the argument has no merit because the person saying it is a bad actor, or else they wouldn't have said that thing to begin with. are you referring to a particular point that has been evaded this way that you would like answered or are you just whining because no one is obligated to engage in interaction with you
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razorrozar posted:it's advice trans people and, i would imagine, any other marginalized community hears and it accomplishes nothing because it places responsibility for avoiding bigotry on us, to ignore it, rather than on others, to not be bigots, and that is hosed and you are wrong and your advice is actively harmful. hth if thats what you read into it, im sorry for being bad at communicating vague life advice. more or less im advocating this position: Emma Goldman posted:I did not believe that a Cause which stood for a beautiful ideal, for anarchism, for release and freedom from convention and prejudice, should demand the denial of life and joy. I insisted that our Cause could not expect me to become a nun and that the movement would not be turned into a cloister. If it meant that, I did not want it. "I want freedom, the right to self-expression, everybody's right to beautiful, radiant things." Anarchism meant that to me, and I would live it in spite of the whole world — prisons, persecution, everything. Yes, even in spite of the condemnation of my own closest comrades I would live my beautiful ideal. less about "ignoring problems" and more about personal spiritual takes on the meaning of existence and life. like all anarchistic thoughts its the sort of smug tripe that leads to anarchists being the second group of people to be shot in revolutions regardless of who wins them so yet again if you dont like it thats okay.
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Heath posted:"Bad faith" does seem to be the word of the day around here nowadays It's accurate.
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razorrozar posted:are you referring to a particular point that has been evaded this way that you would like answered or are you just whining because no one is obligated to engage in interaction with you What makes you think I posted that in bad faith? Like, sincerely. Do you honestly think I'm trying to make a hostile point here, from what I've said?
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Xarbala posted:It is when you use false civility as a thin veil over harassment, but that's not at all what Solice Kirsk was doing and Elephant Ambush is just having a meltdown Yo, Heath knows what the gently caress it is, they're doing it right now. If someone complains about a "lack of civility" or some such bullshit, chances are they're right ignorant -- which means they back down after a post or two -- or they're assholes playing "I'm not touching you!" with discourse. Report, ignore, and move on. There's no talking with people like that. Heath posted:What makes you think I posted that in bad faith? Xarbala posted:It is when you use false civility as a thin veil over harassment, but that's not at all what Solice Kirsk was doing and Elephant Ambush is just having a meltdown
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Screaming Idiot posted:Yo, Heath knows what the gently caress it is, they're doing it right now. If someone complains about a "lack of civility" or some such bullshit, chances are they're right ignorant -- which means they back down after a post or two -- or they're assholes playing "I'm not touching you!" with discourse. Yeah one post is genuine. Keeping on like this is a red flag and by that point I'd already posted.
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Heath posted:What makes you think I posted that in bad faith?
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Dec 28, 2019 08:53
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Lol at equating being trans with posting about star citizen
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content! Here's an extremely wholesome story out of SA-Mart of all places: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3907072 Madness posted:Man my kid would love this, wish our Christmas budget was not already spent. LODGE NORTH posted:I'll buy it so you can give this to your kid, if that's cool with you. 
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Snow Cone Capone posted:content! Here's an extremely wholesome story out of SA-Mart of all places: wholesome energy
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