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Halloween Jack posted:On the one hand, data. On the other hand, a thread full of posts! Are you really this stupid? Where is this data about how rural poor white people vote? Or don't?
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I think the demonization of rurals stems from the electoral college BS. We see a state like MO go red and all 10 EC votes go to Trump, and coasties seem to assume that 100% of people in that state voted for him. In reality, no more than 2 of 3 people voted R in 2016, and if you go back to 2008 the Democrats lost by 0.1% (49.2% vs 49.3%). The EC is winner-take-all, and thus paints the false picture that every red state individual votes R when, in actuality, there are plenty of people who will and do vote D. Hmmmmmm maybe we should try to appeal to them and bring them out to the polls?
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Mr Interweb posted:and because they, you know, hate minorities In my experience it's not hate so much as like...they think minorities are lesser people. Except muslims they do hate muslims
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mycomancy posted:I think the demonization of rurals stems from the electoral college BS. We see a state like MO go red and all 10 EC votes go to Trump, and coasties seem to assume that 100% of people in that state voted for him. In reality, no more than 2 of 3 people voted R in 2016, and if you go back to 2008 the Democrats lost by 0.1% (49.2% vs 49.3%). I'm in a state that Dems nationally have totally written off despite Obama winning it in 2008 lol
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Epic High Five posted:I'm in a state that Dems nationally have totally written off despite Obama winning it in 2008 lol Ohio?
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spacemang_spliff posted:Ohio? even more written off, Indiana
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Epic High Five posted:I'm in a state that Dems nationally have totally written off despite Obama winning it in 2008 lol That's because the center-right Dems are piss pigs.
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mycomancy posted:I think the demonization of rurals stems from the electoral college BS. We see a state like MO go red and all 10 EC votes go to Trump, and coasties seem to assume that 100% of people in that state voted for him. In reality, no more than 2 of 3 people voted R in 2016, and if you go back to 2008 the Democrats lost by 0.1% (49.2% vs 49.3%). Looking at county based election maps instead just makes it even clearer that rural Missouri is a big part of the problem, and that the blue voting areas are St Louis, Kansas City and Columbia. Urban Missouri. I mean yeah, lovely suburban areas are no doubt a big issue as well, but are you trying to tell me that this map indicates rural Missouri is a land of contrasts? 
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The cities seem cool. Shame about the rest. Nice of Trump doing everything in his power to utterly destroy the poo poo parts.
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Now that map does open the eyes about some rural areas being blue, or at least pink. Don't get me wrong. But it also shows that yeah lots of places also fit that stereotype, and the crime of "coasties" is more mentally erasing red state cities from existence (and southern rural black people).
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Unforunately, the electoral college makes it so that you need some rural support to win. Greater St Louis/KC and Greater Boston vote D at about the same rate in Presidential elections. What makes Massachusetts a safe Dem state and Missouri a safe GOP state are how the rural areas of each state overwhelmingly vote one way or the other. Every state that's reliably Democrat on the national level is either dominated by urban areas or has rural areas that are at least partially sympathetic to voting Democrats.
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mycomancy posted:I think the demonization of rurals stems from the electoral college BS. We see a state like MO go red and all 10 EC votes go to Trump, and coasties seem to assume that 100% of people in that state voted for him. In reality, no more than 2 of 3 people voted R in 2016, and if you go back to 2008 the Democrats lost by 0.1% (49.2% vs 49.3%). And yet when dems win in flyover country these guys don't skip a beat in pretending they don't exist and droning on about real America Grape posted:Looking at county based election maps instead just makes it even clearer that rural Missouri is a big part of the problem, and that the blue voting areas are St Louis, Kansas City and Columbia. Urban Missouri. I mean yeah, lovely suburban areas are no doubt a big issue as well, but are you trying to tell me that this map indicates rural Missouri is a land of contrasts? Missouri and its neighbors to the northwest are a bit unusual in that rural MI is big Trump country where people actually showed up to vote for Trump, instead of just voting for nobody: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/politics/voter-turnout/ Typically the sticks are where voter suppression and disengagement are really big issues and surprise surprise, they don't affect the chud landlords NYT reporters keep on speed dial. Pillheads in a tarpaper shack didn't make Trump happen in some mass bumpkin insurgency, they mostly just stayed home while college-dropout small business owners and suburbanites got out the vote for the GOP the same way they have for decades. But god forbid a liberal point the finger at their own class instead of the nearest poor person. A Wizard of Goatse has issued a correction as of 07:35 on Dec 29, 2019 |
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Epic High Five posted:even more written off, Indiana can't really blame dems after y'all elected a horse-fucker for governor cool black belt
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:can't really blame dems after y'all elected a horse-fucker for governor He does not gently caress horses. He gets hosed BY horses. Get your facts straight.
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Hey be fair, his opponent, what's his face, was very uninspiring Also the whole reason he took VP was because he was gonna lose lol
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I think goons have kind of over corrected on rural hate where they now view then in this weird state where they can do no wrong
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I live in Kentucky and I say kill 'em all
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CharlestheHammer posted:I think goons have kind of over corrected on rural hate where they now view then in this weird state where they can do no wrong It's contrarianism in response to the demo frequent posters who come in saying all should be purged and there is nothing redeemable except on the coasts It is important to keep in mind that even under Mao the rural populations saw extensive....reforms
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It’s not very socialist to write off millions of people and plan for them to die. Kill the capitalists and most rural states will be fine in a generation or two.
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CharlestheHammer posted:I think goons have kind of over corrected on rural hate where they now view then in this weird state where they can do no wrong
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Epic High Five posted:It is important to keep in mind that even under Mao the rural populations saw extensive....reforms
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mycomancy posted:Hmmmmmm maybe we should try to appeal to them and bring them out to the polls? Actually,,, poor people should die if they're not useful
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Mr Interweb posted:merry belated christmas present, fellow goons: This is the content I crave. Screw the tut-tut-ers. Everyone in the NYT Cletus safari, to a man, would celebrate reading about the death of some San Francisco liberals, or some unarmed black kids who get shot by police. gently caress, I’ve seen enough celebration of homelessness with “What did you expect in COMMIEfornia?” to fill a tractor trailer. I agree it’s bad practice to go on TV and say “Vote for me, I’ll kill all the white people.” I agree that you should try to appeal to improving material conditions to peel of as many poor rural people as possible. But for me, in this thread, I’m gonna watch Trumpers get hosed and I’m gonna enjoy it.
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1glitch0 posted:He does not gently caress horses. He gets hosed BY horses. Get your facts straight. ok i hate to admit it but that is much more impressive, my bad indiana
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:Then why did the horse get preggers Lots of people get pregnant in Indiana without being hosed. They're all miracles from God because abstinence only sex education is 100% effective.
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Epic High Five posted:It's contrarianism in response to the demo frequent posters who come in saying all should be purged and there is nothing redeemable except on the coasts Tbf I've also written off the coasts.
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it's easy to forget that in even the reddest of states there's fairly leftist urban centers and likely even the most blood red counties have leftists in them that have no means to escape their living hell, plus yeah the midwest, rust belt, and appalachia used to be quite leftist until commies bad usa usa usa
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Zeroisanumber posted:Tbf I've also written off the coasts. but honestly this 
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Kitfox88 posted:likely even the most blood red counties have leftists in them that have no means to escape their living hell can confirm
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The American peasant class must be at the forefront of the revolution
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Byzantine posted:can confirm me 2
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it rules when farm owners (mostly wealthy white conservative trump supporters) are ground into dust, but sucks rear end when farm workers (mostly poor black or latino nonvoters) also get hurt because of the aforementioned
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broke: flyover country is a lost cause, purge all red states woke: there are poor/leftists in those red states, we should focus on only purging the chuds bespoke: purge everyone, coasts, flyover, chud, leftist, humanity was a mistake
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Cleanse this planet of the human virus
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Epic High Five posted:Cleanse this planet of the human virus 
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Epic High Five posted:Cleanse this planet of the human virus 
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the three tiny blue dots you probably can’t even see on a phone in TN (one of which is an actually tiny county of 17,000 people) are 24% of the state’s population. I don’t think this is relevant to anyone but me but it’s kind of exasperating to realize.
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People that bust out maps like that need to be reminded that corn can't vote
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