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bvj191jgl7bBsqF5m posted:I got a bump of about 25k by telling my boss that I don't want to go through the bs of pretending like I want to find a new job just to get an offer to show him just so that we can start talking about a raise v I went in and basically told them about the numbers that LinkedIn recruiters were throwing at me. It kinda worked, they gave me a 15% raise, where I had asked for 30% 
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I've been a manager in different capacities at software companies of different sizes. Having a calm, reasonable discussion is the best first step. Realize that frequently it takes time to get substantial pay increases, so "I need a raise right now" may not get immediate results. Managers up to and frequently including Directors usually have very few options available to add a bunch of salary so they need to go through hoops and might even have larger, macro issues going on. I'd generally suggest having a number in mind along with a timeframe (could be as much as 3-4 months, so give it some thought on how long you'd be willing to wait) and it really helps if you get yourself in a place where you'd be willing to start looking around if it's not met. I've been at places that just couldn't get people to market and I saw people get strung along because they let other managers dictate what was acceptable or not. If you do have an offer in hand it can sometimes be mixed. Sometimes it gets you labeled as a major flight risk which can mean opportunities will be given to others, though honestly I've never really seen that happen when my team members have come to me with offers. If You do bring an offer be ready to leave, because if they say no and you stay anyway, good luck getting that doormat rep off you. In general, I'd say have a talk with your manager before getting an offer. Doing some research on glassdoor every once in a while to understand your market is a really good idea. Though I've generally been happier making a bit less money working in an environment that was more enjoyable, so as a life tip don't get too focused on the "high score". Everyone calculates that differently though.
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Please no one fall for the "I can't right now but give me 6 months" line
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Fellatio del Toro posted:Please no one fall for the "I can't right now but give me 6 months" line get it in writing
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leper khan posted:get it in writing And even then, never expect anything and always be prepared to look elsewhere.
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So is this your burn down chart or what
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Would they need help with that backlog?
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Now make it realistic by opening like 25 of them, taking varying numbers of sips, and then leaving them in the in progress queue
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prom candy posted:Now make it realistic by opening like 25 of them, taking varying numbers of sips, and then leaving them in the in progress queue And whenever you pick one you never know how stale or rotten it already is until the first gulp...
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Your pm wants to know what the status on each can is, one by one.
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Some of the empty cans need to be filled back up
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Some cans can’t be drunk until another can is finished first. Some cans can only be drunk by one person who knows how to drink them. Can 2B is labeled “drink can 9S first”. Can 9S is labeled “drink can 2B first”. It takes two days for someone to verify that you do in fact know how to drink the can, and then you can drink it. At some point, you stop getting cans and instead start getting the same volume in ten times the amount of tiny sip cups. Your manager comes by and demands to know why you’re so slow to finish those cans, then tells you to stop drinking the ale and start drinking the cider instead. By the time you get back to the ale, it’s totally flat. Your dad asks if you can drink a growler for him. Pollyanna fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Dec 31, 2019 |
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One of your coworkers attempts to shotgun a beer, but instead makes a mess over everything and the sprint is now ruined.
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Some of the cans have been used as ashtrays. Your boss insists you drink the half-full can of stale, ash- and tobacco-infused beer. At least two of those cans came like that, and you don't realise until you crack them open and have a taste.
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Suddenly the puke on the floor is bad enough that someone who matters has decided to cancel the Sprint and have you deal with it. This is 3 sprints after someone puked and 2 sprints after you poured sawdust on it.
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And then the cops show up because the neighbors say you were loud... What were we talking about again?
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https://twitter.com/rakyll/status/1212821778600361984
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This is a war crime
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I'm the hoards of replies explaining to the Googler with commit rights to golang basic git commands.
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Xik posted:I'm the hoards of replies explaining to the Googler with commit rights to golang basic git commands. If they had anything to do with the ongoing golang packaging trainwreck then this explains a lot
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Judge Schnoopy posted:This is a war crime At least use interactive rebase
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lmao my boss replied
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Blinkz0rz posted:lmao my boss replied Was your boss one of the jackasses trying to explain how to use git to her? Jose Valasquez fucked around with this message at 16:42 on Jan 3, 2020 |
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Jose Valasquez posted:Was your boss one of the jackasses trying to explain how to use git to her? thank god, no
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Jose Valasquez posted:Was your boss one of the jackasses trying to explain how to use git to her? I just thumbed through that thread. Good lord people she works at Google, I think she can handle git. Notwithstanding that it's a joke...
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Protocol7 posted:I just thumbed through that thread. Obviously it's a joke, but working at google and not having the slightest clue how to use git are not at all mutually exclusive.
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Plorkyeran posted:Obviously it's a joke, but working at google and not having the slightest clue how to use git are not at all mutually exclusive. I guarantee the average google engineer knows how to work git probably better than I do, and probably better than most of the people commenting in the thread. Macichne Leainig fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Jan 3, 2020 |
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Last I read, Google doesn't use git, though. They have something (Piper?) that maps the whole codebase as a virtual directory or something, because it's too big to reasonably keep it distributed across every dev's machine.
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So their engineers don't know how to use git because they use something else at Google? Seems like a leap but okay, if you want to pick apart my post for some reason go for it.
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Munkeymon posted:Last I read, Google doesn't use git, though. They have something (Piper?) that maps the whole codebase as a virtual directory or something, because it's too big to reasonably keep it distributed across every dev's machine. Meanwhile, stuff like Android and open source projects just use plain git. Progressive JPEG fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Jan 3, 2020 |
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Protocol7 posted:I guarantee the average google engineer knows how to work git probably better than I do, and probably better than most of the people commenting in the thread. The average google engineer is not meaningfully different from the average engineer at any other software company. Since google does not use git internally, I'd expect the average google engineer to be below average at using git simply because many of them simply don't use it regularly.
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Plorkyeran posted:"This person works for company X therefore they are automatically masters of every single technology that has ever existed" is dumb even when it's not a company that has 100k employees. That’s not at all what I said. Just said that they’re better than the people commenting in the thread. But if you want to be a shitheel that’s your prerogative.
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I absolutely wouldn't expect your "average" google engineer to know anything about git, much less how to use it well. That doesn't make people's reaction to that woman any less dumb, though. If she's making a git joke she probably knows git, and if she works on golang - which is a huge public project - she probably does, too. I don't remember the specifics of how the golang git repos are used or if the source of truth there is git or something else, but golang engineers are one of the teams that I would expect git knowledge from.
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Progressive JPEG posted:There were some videos on it a couple years ago. Google use a reimplementation of the Perforce server named Piper. If however you thought Perforce was bad (and you would be right) then there was also a git wrapper that had custom push/pull commands for interacting with the Perforce server. The git wrapper has been deprecated in favor of a mercurial wrapper instead. Both are too hard for me to understand so I just use regular Piper
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Jose Valasquez posted:The git wrapper has been deprecated in favor of a mercurial wrapper instead. Both are too hard for me to understand so I just use regular Piper Huh, only people I’d heard using Mercurial anymore are Facebook Beats Perforce I guess
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