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Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel
I'd definitely watch a Lance Hendrickson Terminator.

Make it. He's looked the same for like 40 years.

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Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

purple death ray posted:

I like the idea that after you wrap them in human tissue to conceal the endoskeletons enough for them to make it through the time gate, terminators are just kind of huge dudes

I honestly laughed a little when ever the T-600s got revealed in Terminator Salvation, because 8-foot tall humanoid in rubber skin is not inconspicuous at the least.

Xenomrph posted:

The role was originally conceived by James Cameron with Lance in mind, he even did early concept art with Henriksen as the Terminator:





The original idea was that the Terminator would look like an everyday guy, the better to blend in and get close to its target.

Yeah, there's definitely a "Second Variety" vibe to that idea. If they looked like normal dudes, The Terminator future war would look almost exactly like Screamers, with Skynet building infiltrators with different strategies to appeal to humans, like the Lost Child, the Wounded Soldier, or Sexy Lady Contraband Dealer, and not just burly dude who barely passes as a human.

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

I occasionally wonder how the franchise would've turned out if OJ Simpson had gotten the role.

Laterite
Mar 14, 2007

It's Gutfest '89
Grimey Drawer

Vagabundo posted:

I occasionally wonder how the franchise would've turned out if OJ Simpson had gotten the role.

I mean, he is a remorseless killer in real life, soooo...

The Zombie Guy
Oct 25, 2008

As long as we're on Terminator chat, I'd like to say that I think Robert Patrick was the best one. Look at Arnold in T1 when he's gunning people down: lots of flinching and squinting.
Then look at Robby P as the T1000: mag dumping with a stone cold face, dropping the clip and reloading without looking or skipping a beat, and carries on shooting. gently caress yeah.

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel
That's a good point. He completely comes off as a creepy robot.

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

The Zombie Guy posted:

As long as we're on Terminator chat, I'd like to say that I think Robert Patrick was the best one. Look at Arnold in T1 when he's gunning people down: lots of flinching and squinting.
Then look at Robby P as the T1000: mag dumping with a stone cold face, dropping the clip and reloading without looking or skipping a beat, and carries on shooting. gently caress yeah.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6kOV5hD6T4

Meatwolfe
Oct 31, 2011
Anyone gonna play that new terminator game that's coming out?

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Resistance? I thought it was already out.

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill



I’ve got it on PC but I haven’t tried it yet. I don’t think it’s out on Xbox/PS4 until after the new year.

Meatwolfe
Oct 31, 2011
It's out on consoles in the UK, I found a copy for cheap on Amazon and ordered it. I'm an sucker for terminator stuff and there hasn't been a non movie terminator game since the ps3 days.

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel
Holy poo poo I've never even heard of that. I don't really play FPSs anymore but it's on sale for $30. The reviews are excellent.


edit: i own it now

Pennywise the Frown fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Dec 30, 2019

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Pennywise the Frown posted:

Holy poo poo I've never even heard of that. I don't really play FPSs anymore but it's on sale for $30. The reviews are excellent.

It's pretty bad overall but on the bright side does capture the visual look of post-Judgement Day LA from the films.

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel
I bought it. It got one of the 2019 best new release awards. Can't be that bad.

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill



It’s one of those games where the critics shat all over it but apparently players and fans of the series liked it.

This video talks about it quite a bit: https://youtu.be/H5wi-c0v2wk

Meatwolfe
Oct 31, 2011

Pennywise the Frown posted:

Holy poo poo I've never even heard of that. I don't really play FPSs anymore but it's on sale for $30. The reviews are excellent.


edit: i own it now

My copy hasn't shipped yet. Tomorrow I hope.

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel

Xenomrph posted:

It’s one of those games where the critics shat all over it but apparently players and fans of the series liked it.

This video talks about it quite a bit: https://youtu.be/H5wi-c0v2wk

Well that video pretty much justifies my purchase. They said, you don't need a ground breaking blockbuster all the time and sometimes you want a solid adventure game with the lore from the original movies.

Sounds perfect. :shrug:

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Pennywise the Frown posted:

Well that video pretty much justifies my purchase. They said, you don't need a ground breaking blockbuster all the time and sometimes you want a solid adventure game with the lore from the original movies.

Sounds perfect. :shrug:

The enemy AI is really bad and the game gets broken once can start buying the sniper weapons + upgrading out your skills.

I still enjoyed it since it does capture the atmosphere of the flashback scenes.

gary oldmans diary
Sep 26, 2005
pffft... just play terminator future shock in your browser
https://archive.org/details/msdos_The_Terminator_-_Future_Shock_1995

note that that game did a bunch of stuff in 1995 that quake got all the credit for in 1996




hell yeah. just how i remember it

gary oldmans diary fucked around with this message at 05:14 on Dec 30, 2019

Torquemada
Oct 21, 2010

Drei Gläser
https://www.thewrap.com/syd-mead-blade-runner-and-aliens-concept-artist-and-futurist-dies-at-86/

Rip Syd Mead, you were a real one :sadwave:

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





Pennywise the Frown posted:

Holy poo poo I've never even heard of that. I don't really play FPSs anymore but it's on sale for $30. The reviews are excellent.


edit: i own it now

Whoa, how the hell did they make an entire drat Terminator game that I didn't know about? Looks kinda good. I'm cautiously optimistic in the same way I am for the asymmetric Predator game that's supposed to be coming out soon.

Kaiju Cage Match
Nov 5, 2012





He put a mustache on a Gundam



EDIT: He designed most of the robots in Turn A Gundam




Kaiju Cage Match fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Dec 31, 2019

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel

Beet Wagon posted:

Whoa, how the hell did they make an entire drat Terminator game that I didn't know about? Looks kinda good. I'm cautiously optimistic in the same way I am for the asymmetric Predator game that's supposed to be coming out soon.

I haven't played it but I opened it for a sec and they had the music from T2. Almost got chills just hearing it. Off to a good start.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Anyone want to punch up/critique this basic outline for an Aliens RPG scenario? I am going to flesh out and add to it but this is sort of the stream of conscious get something on paper version:

quote:

The PCs should come to realize this a piece at a time, with the reveal of what they’re up against coming at a dramatic moment. But the basic layout is this: Clarity Point station is a Weyland Yutani skunkworks research station on a remote temperate planet. The players are responding to multiple distress calls either out of duty or opportunism (in my session they are freelance salvagers).

Clarity point was dong advanced research on active camouflage, battlefield medicine, and miniaturized plasma weapons among other things in a large geodesic dome that keeps out the incredibly hostile fauna. Under the dome, and behind a high wall is the secret to their research: They are reverse-engineering technology from a race of humanoid alien trophy hunters, purloined from a ziggurat-style temple-lodge. The three-dozen strong research staff hypothesized that it might belong to a vanished progenitor race. They made a deadly miscalculation: Though they could certainly vanish, the owners of the structure and it’s trove of technology were still very much alive.

Timeline:
10 days ago: two members of the temple-lodges trophy hunter species arrive in response to a signal that their holy site had been breached. They slaughter the research staff and hunt the security forces for sport taking trophies. A distress beacon is sent during the chaos. The non-security staff is unceremoniously dumped in a mass grave. The Android Rook is salvageable and can tell part of the story.

9 days ago: The three pre-adolescent children billeted with the staff are corralled by the hunters into the facility mess hall with ample provisions terrified and harrowed, but unharmed. The creatures relocate the beacon to this building.

6 days ago: A USCM ship under fighter escort is attacked by the cloaked vessel of the hunters. It lands hard, killing most of the crew complement.

4 days ago: The last of the survivors from the USCM response team’s ship is killed and taken as a trophy.

3 days ago: A four-person UPP special forces team responding to interesting SigInt is inserted to recover intel and tech specimens to reverse engineer, only aware of the cover story and not the alien origins.

1 Day ago: Only two members of the special forces team survive. They will be paranoid and skeptical of the PCs, attempting to capture and interrogate them about USCM soldiers using active camouflage and advanced plasma weapons. The PCs may be able to with some difficulty pursuade them to work together with them to survive and escape.

Today: The PCs arrive on the world.

Two days from now: A larger team of hunter species aliens will arrive to raze every human building and purify the site. If the children remain they will be tested and either be inducted into the hunter society or, more likely, consigned to the slave labor caste of failed hunters and alien captives.

The two hunters are Storied Elder and Glory Seeker. Storied Elder is irritated with Glory Seeker for destroying the USCM ship before they could determine it’s intent, as he would prefer to see the human youths (too young to hunt for trophies or to be held accountable for the profaning of the temple and slaughtered without honor) returned to their own kind. Glory Seeker contended (not inaccurately) that the heavily armed warship was no benevolent rescue vehicle and was a valid and honorable target. Elder was forced to concede he may be right as armored, heavily armed humans sortied out from the wreck in an attack posture. They granted that the much smaller UPP insertion vehicle may be more benign, but when they clashed with USCM survivors and seemed more interested in materiel than following the beacon to the children, the pair took to the hunt. At this point the comparatively less militarized PC team represents the “last chance” the alien pair are inclined to offer the humans to make off with the children in peace. It's up to the PCs to figure this out and survive without provoking them.

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel
"dong advanced research"

:hmmyes: I like it.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Pennywise the Frown posted:

"dong advanced research"

:hmmyes: I like it.

They are pouring a lot of hours into recreating the telescoping spear.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Pennywise the Frown posted:

I haven't played it but I opened it for a sec and they had the music from T2. Almost got chills just hearing it. Off to a good start.

The game was able to licences the soundtrack and also all the sound effects for things like plasma rifles are spot on.

It's still pretty dated for things like the half-rear end skill true, stealth and enemy AI.

The Zombie Guy
Oct 25, 2008

Owlbear Camus posted:

They are pouring a lot of hours into recreating the telescoping spear.

When the spear extends, it had better make a "schwing" sound.

The game scenarios sounds cool as hell. Hopefully your players are smart enough to just grab the kids and GTFO. Do they have prior knowledge of the Predators and what they're capable of? Is there any way for them to communicate, or is this strictly an actions speak for you type of thing?

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


Owlbear Camus posted:

Anyone want to punch up/critique this basic outline for an Aliens RPG scenario? I am going to flesh out and add to it but this is sort of the stream of conscious get something on paper version:

I like your ideas but I don’t think your PCs are gonna stand a chance against one, let alone two predators. In my game one neomorph maimed or killed almost the entire party.

Are you planning on giving your players competing agendas? That was the most entertaining aspect of our last game. None of the players knew if they could trust each other and several of them had diametrically opposed goals which led to a final three way showdown for the escape shuttle that was interrupted by the arrival of the neomorph.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



The Zombie Guy posted:

The game scenarios sounds cool as hell. Hopefully your players are smart enough to just grab the kids and GTFO. Do they have prior knowledge of the Predators and what they're capable of? Is there any way for them to communicate, or is this strictly an actions speak for you type of thing?

I've explicitly advertised it as an "Aliens" game and am going to head fake about what's going on as much as I reasonably can depending on how they approach things "We heard a scream and he was dragged off into the woods leaving only his rifle behind" fits for either. Their characters will have no knowledge of either but I'm also going to mess with metagame expectations. The Predators should be a surprise when they find the trophies or temple lodge. :evilbuddy:

I'm going to try to help them intuit the "correct" solution through the Predators actions and some hints from survivors... while hoping avarice over getting priceless tech or hotheadedness and a desire to blast monsters gets them in trouble. :v:

E: I should tweak the timeline so that there are USCM and UPP survivors concurrently, allowing for an opportunity for the PCs to potentially play peacemakers between strange bedfellows to band together and survive.

Owlbear Camus fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Dec 31, 2019

The Zombie Guy
Oct 25, 2008

If tabletop RPGs have taught me anything, it's that 9 times out of 10, players can and will pull defeat from the jaws of victory by being too greedy or too horny.

You don't have any Space Bards that try to seduce anything that moves, do you?

Unrelated: If anyone has ever been watching Terminator, and thought to themselves "I wish that they would re-make this as a cheesy kung-fu movie with a low budget", then you should check out the video for Metallica's Spit Out The Bone.

e: punctuation

The Zombie Guy fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Dec 31, 2019

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985



I have Syd Meads 'Sentury 2' to read right here.
Unironic F.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
There's rules for predators??

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Phi230 posted:

There's rules for predators??

I'm gonna homebrew some up.


The Zombie Guy posted:

You don't have any Space Bards that try to seduce anything that moves, do you?

After a Delta Green game where a player uttered the phrase "I attempt first aid on the Byahkee" I guess I wouldn't be surprised by "I try to seduce the Yuat'ja."

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

So I got a small Xenomorph statue that Weta Workshops made.


https://www.wetanz.com/shop/vinyl-figures/mini-epics-xenomorph


Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel
Vasquez is the bard. :swoon:

And Jonesy is the druid.

roarpower
Jul 11, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Xenomrph posted:

Resurrection does have Ron Perlman, who can do no wrong.

:hmmyes:

roarpower
Jul 11, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

The Zombie Guy posted:

As long as we're on Terminator chat, I'd like to say that I think Robert Patrick was the best one. Look at Arnold in T1 when he's gunning people down: lots of flinching and squinting.
Then look at Robby P as the T1000: mag dumping with a stone cold face, dropping the clip and reloading without looking or skipping a beat, and carries on shooting. gently caress yeah.

I think thats why he got the job. Firing a gatling gun without worries of blinking

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel
https://twitter.com/perlmutations/status/1211029367507185665

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madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

roarpower posted:

I think thats why he got the job. Firing a gatling gun without worries of blinking

There are a few articles about R. Patrick training for the role. It seems he wanted to act very calm, collected, and machine-like from early on. They were able to give him supplementary training towards that goal. Keeping your eyes open through the shot is a fundamental part of proper marksmanship so that's what he was taught, proper marksmanship.

I like stories like that. The actors and actresses in All Creatures Great and Small went out to help a country veterinarian I think every week is another favorite. If you're supposed to be acting out a role, why half-rear end it? Get out there and learn!

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