Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

This one isn’t unpopular according to sentiment, but it IS unpopular based on purchasing behavior.

Video games (mostly MMOs) that have an expansion completely invalidate or otherwise kill all earlier content are bad and dumb. WoW has an expansion, everything before that expansion may as well have not existed and is now just a stepping stone to be skipped over as fast as possible, hopefully by selling an upgrade token.

Destiny 2 did this too. FFXIV is a good case of invalidating but kind of time capsuling old content so I’m gleefully doing poo poo from vanilla and every earlier expansion.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

olives black
Nov 24, 2017


LENIN.
STILL.
WON'T.
FUCK.
ME.

jokes posted:

This one isn’t unpopular according to sentiment, but it IS unpopular based on purchasing behavior.

Video games (mostly MMOs) that have an expansion completely invalidate or otherwise kill all earlier content are bad and dumb. WoW has an expansion, everything before that expansion may as well have not existed and is now just a stepping stone to be skipped over as fast as possible, hopefully by selling an upgrade token.

Destiny 2 did this too. FFXIV is a good case of invalidating but kind of time capsuling old content so I’m gleefully doing poo poo from vanilla and every earlier expansion.

fixed

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

I meant to say it’s popular according to purchasing behavior, not unpopular ugh

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Icochet posted:

Leonardo friggin hated the model for Mona Lisa and it was intended as a dart board (100 points if you hit the moving eyes). It's a game, therefore not art.

Originally it had stink lines and the words "vapid c***" on the forehead but the restorers took liberties

Now realising how funny it is that Mona Lisa is a love interest for the ninja turtles

the CG cartoon has her be a lizard alien who's basically fem-Raphael who he immediately falls in love with


Rutibex posted:

i would not be against WarioWare Switch

Also more Oddworld games

DildenAnders
Mar 16, 2016

"I recommend Batman especially, for he tends to transcend the abysmal society in which he's found himself. His morality is rather rigid, also. I rather respect Batman.â€Â
Actually video games are only art if they have hot Disney Princess women, whose eyes are bigger than their wrists, follwing you around and playing the game for you, all the time whispering, "it's ok to jack off to this." Bonus points for weird, plot-hole driven accidental incest vibes.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Now realising how funny it is that Mona Lisa is a love interest for the ninja turtles

the CG cartoon has her be a lizard alien who's basically fem-Raphael who he immediately falls in love with

wait really? The recent Nickelodeon cg cartoon? that’s pretty deep cut (but back in the Eastman and Laird comics she was Mike’s love interest iirc)

ChazTurbo
Oct 4, 2014
Here's a hot take. MMOs are a boring genre for boring people.

Edit:Also looter shooters

ChazTurbo fucked around with this message at 23:52 on Dec 31, 2019

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Borderlands is easily the most insufferable Millennial franchise ever.

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

mind the walrus posted:

Borderlands is easily the most insufferable Millennial franchise ever.

i played borderlands 3 this year for like, 30 hours or something and don't remember it, its like the only thing i remember is that it felt ten years old

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

mind the walrus posted:

Borderlands is easily the most insufferable Millennial franchise ever.

OK Boomer

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Also more Oddworld games

Given the subject matter in his games I know this sounds insane and impossible, but, I have some bad news for you regarding the lead designer and politics

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

DildenAnders posted:

Actually video games are only art if they have hot Disney Princess women, whose eyes are bigger than their wrists, follwing you around and playing the game for you, all the time whispering, "it's ok to jack off to this." Bonus points for weird, plot-hole driven accidental incest vibes.

But you see it's okay because they aren't showing skin like those anime sluts

The whole genre of a chaste daughterwife needing constant protection from sexualised violence and occasionally going through misery porn seems to have burnt out recently but knowing devs who knows

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

borderlands is fun not because it's well written or well balanced or not even because its gameplay is reasonably good, but simply because you get to spend time with three of your buddies

it's not a very good game

Ruffian Price
Sep 17, 2016

Ghost Leviathan posted:

The whole genre of a chaste daughterwife needing constant protection from sexualised violence and occasionally going through misery porn seems to have burnt out recently but knowing devs who knows
I liked the moment when every AAA game designer turned 35 and all the protagonists got beards. It took game-spanning escort missions for the industry to grow up, Daikatana was ahead of its time

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Man the video game equivalents of Gran Torino are gonna loving suck

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Ruffian Price posted:

I liked the moment when every AAA game designer turned 35 and all the protagonists got beards. It took game-spanning escort missions for the industry to grow up, Daikatana was ahead of its time

it rules that the whole generation of AAA game designer has gone straight from manchild to mid life crisis

While all the actual good ones are trapped in phone game hell

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Barudak posted:

Given the subject matter in his games I know this sounds insane and impossible, but, I have some bad news for you regarding the lead designer and politics

What's he say?

Lodin
Jul 31, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
I hit 40 next month and thus any 2D platformer from Mega Man to Shovel Knight is poo poo.
No, it's not my reflexes, gently caress off.

Vietnamwees
May 8, 2008

by Fluffdaddy
WHATEVER VIDEOGAME THAT YOU LOVE SUCKS DONKEY BALLS!

I said what I said :colbert:

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

The White Dragon posted:

borderlands is fun not because it's well written or well balanced or not even because its gameplay is reasonably good, but simply because you get to spend time with three of your buddies

it's not a very good game

It's not a very good game, "describe something I don't like as being Millenial" is just a very Boomer thing to do

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

Vietnamwees posted:

WHATEVER VIDEOGAME THAT YOU LOVE SUCKS DONKEY BALLS!

I said what I said :colbert:

well that's not very polite to say about oraga land shusai best farmer shuukakusai

abigserve
Sep 13, 2009

this is a better avatar than what I had before
i thought the normal mode of borderlands 2 was pretty good but that was enough borderlands for me forever

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Borderlands isn't a great series but at least it pretty much amounts to a normal game with a normal amount of content in the end, which is more than I can say for most loot games which are basically weird faux job/gambling time wasters. You can just play the campaign and it's basically just a run of the mill shooter unlike Destiny, which is just like 4 hours of content recycled 100 times

fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:
Ppl who insist that video games are art generally tend to not interact with actual art in any meaningful way

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

that really seems like projection

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

fridge corn posted:

Ppl who insist that video games are art generally tend to not interact with actual art in any meaningful way

people who do interact with actual art tend to either be guillotine fodder or rapidly become burnt out from realising it all exists solely as a jobs program for guillotine fodder

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

fridge corn posted:

Ppl who insist that video games are art generally tend to not interact with actual art in any meaningful way

yes they do they play video games

fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:

Ghost Leviathan posted:

people who do interact with actual art tend to either be guillotine fodder or rapidly become burnt out from realising it all exists solely as a jobs program for guillotine fodder

gently caress, you're right. Time to burn all my books

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Anything someone finds artistic value in is art. Only huge mouth breathers go around thinking they have authority to determine what is and isn't art.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth
#NotMyArt

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

No true art appreciator would say video games are art.

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

~🚚special delivery~📦

is pepsi ok posted:

No true art appreciator would say video games are art.

too busy huffing their own farts to do much else tbh

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

Videogames, like the internet, was a mistake.

poverty goat
Feb 15, 2004



fridge corn posted:

Ppl who insist that video games are art generally tend to not interact with actual art in any meaningful way

The problem is, actual serious art people think a literal toilet, and paint splatters and Campbell's soup cans are art. I don't think you have a leg to stand on; pissing off people who want to argue about what constitutes art is in fact a defining quality of modern art. You are only hurting your argument by arguing about it.

Maya Fey
Jan 22, 2017


is pepsi ok posted:

No true art appreciator would say video games are art.

[putting down printout of the Mona Lisa on my coffee table] oh hi there.. didnt see you come in

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

Say what you will about Banksy but Exit Through the Gift Shop was a wonderfully brutal own on the fart huffing art community.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth
Art is like words in the dictionary... it's literally whatever we want it to be.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Indeed. There can also be bad art. It's not a complimentary term.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
Lol this guy thinks book are art

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:

poverty goat posted:

The problem is, actual serious art people think a literal toilet, and paint splatters and Campbell's soup cans are art. I don't think you have a leg to stand on; pissing off people who want to argue about what constitutes art is in fact a defining quality of modern art. You are only hurting your argument by arguing about it.

My argument is ppl who insist on extolling the artistic virtues of video games often haven't interacted with fine art on a meaningful level because if they had then they'd realise that the artistic merits of video games are mundane and juvenile

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply