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Oh and hey, you know that big rear end ship they're using as a base on the forest planet? Apparently that's the ship from the beginning of the original Star Wars. Just another cheap reference that I don't know that anyone would get without it being pointed out.
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christmas boots posted:Oh and hey, you know that big rear end ship they're using as a base on the forest planet? Apparently that's the ship from the beginning of the original Star Wars. Just another cheap reference that I don't know that anyone would get without it being pointed out. I mean, it was pretty obviously a ship of the same design at least. Not too many spaceships out there look like a giant pack of cigarettes attached to a hammerhead dildo, so it stands out.
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i hope they reboot the original movies and luke skywalker is played by like chris pratt or something.
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Owlbear Camus posted:Now that the entire Sequel Trilogy is on the books to reflect on as a contiguous story, I've come around to agree with the people who defend the prequels as better by contrast. They are ugly, leaden, and ineptly told-- but taken together they tell a more narratively and thematically coherent story than the ST. Yeah, can't disagree with this
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SidneyIsTheKiller posted:I mean, it was pretty obviously a ship of the same design at least. Not too many spaceships out there look like a giant pack of cigarettes attached to a hammerhead dildo, so it stands out. Well there SHOULD be 
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lmao it’s actually supposed to be the tantive iv? because vader didn’t scrap it immediately as they tore it apart looking for the plans. that’s even dumber and more outlandish than palls coming back
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Owlbear Camus posted:Now that the entire Sequel Trilogy is on the books to reflect on as a contiguous story, I've come around to agree with the people who defend the prequels as better by contrast. They are ugly, leaden, and ineptly told-- but taken together they tell a more narratively and thematically coherent story than the ST. I'm neutral on the main point, but could you comment on the thematically coherent bit? To me the PT didn't seem to have any more of a continuous thrust (sorry if that sounds dirty) throughout its entries than the ST, and Episode III in particular, much like Rise of Skywalker, seems to abandon many of its predecessors' setups in order to retell the entire trilogy's general storyline in a single self-contained movie using a different approach.
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TK-42-1 posted:lmao it’s actually supposed to be the tantive iv? because vader didn’t scrap it immediately as they tore it apart looking for the plans. that’s even dumber and more outlandish than palls coming back https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Tantive_IV Although tbh the idea that they only half-assed the job of destroying it and then it got forgotten in some random hanger under a mountain of paperwork is probably the most grounded element in any of the movies. SidneyIsTheKiller posted:I'm neutral on the main point, but could you comment on the thematically coherent bit? To me the PT didn't seem to have any more of a continuous thrust (sorry if that sounds dirty) throughout its entries than the ST, and Episode III in particular, much like Rise of Skywalker, seems to abandon many of its predecessors' setups in order to retell the entire trilogy's general storyline in a single self-contained movie using a different approach. For one thing Palpatine was the ultimate villain the entire time rather than being shoehorned in the last one. It's also pretty clear from the first one that he's playing both sides to grant himself power. The execution leaves a lot to be desired but the through line of Palpatine's creating a conflict that he exploits to place himself in power destroy the Jedi is a pretty straightforward one. It seems pretty clear to me that the prequels were created with at least the skeleton of the overall arc already in mind, whereas the newer movies obviously did not have that. christmas boots fucked around with this message at 01:09 on Jan 1, 2020 |
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christmas boots posted:So apparently most of the answers are in the Star Wars visual dictionary which, in addition to calling three-time terrorist Chewbacca "apolitical", also explains who the hooded people hanging out in the Palpatomb are. It's great because not only did he give the finger to TLJ he also undermined the entire series.
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Pretty weird how they ended the movie with a rousing music number of "Please Mr Palpatine". 10-9-8765-4-3-2 One second please! Please Mr. Palpatine(Uh oh!) I don't wanna go (please don't shoot me into outer space) P-P-Please Mr. Palpatine(Uh oh!) I don't wanna go (please don't shoot me into outer space) I sweat when they stuff me in my high-waist suit, Ripoff Vader helmet, woodoo-hide boots Nowhere up there in the outer rim (outer, space) I need to snack on that jedi trim (outer, space) Are you reading me loud and clear? Oh! 
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christmas boots posted:So apparently most of the answers are in the Star Wars visual dictionary which, in addition to calling three-time terrorist Chewbacca "apolitical", also explains who the hooded people hanging out in the Palpatomb are. This is basically the plot from The Old Republic games, where the current sith empire gets invaded and taken over by the true sith empire with the true sith emperor, who then gets bored with them and builds a whole other even more secret and more powerful empire behind the scenes It's hacks all the way down
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Roman Reigns posted:This is basically the plot from The Old Republic games, where the current sith empire gets invaded and taken over by the true sith empire with the true sith emperor, who then gets bored with them and builds a whole other even more secret and more powerful empire behind the scenes Yup. And I think BioWare came out with that expansion four years ago, or so? What was the point of rebooting the EU if you're just going to reuse it all?
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shadow puppet of a posted:I'm a wanted man. I've laid pipe in twelve systems. I'll be careful. Edit: I wouldn't put TOO much stock into copy from "The Art Of" book. I know it's official and all, but a lot of that type of stuff is a little hyperbolic to make whatever the subject is sound interesting, (the "real" sith - I mean, it's not like we've been watching "fake" sith the entire time), or color the presentation in a certain way (Chewie being "apolitical" sounds like they were trying to find a nicer sounding way of saying he's a mercenary at heart). Especially when it's being released along side the production when it's working more of the "promotional tie-in" angle than if it were a retrospective work. SidneyIsTheKiller fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Jan 1, 2020 |
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I just watched this and wow this was not good. I'm sure all the bad stuff has been talked about already. There was literally nothing memorable about this movie, besides the hilarious  dead face that rey makes (how the hell did she even die anyways).
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christmas boots posted:Yup. And I think BioWare came out with that expansion four years ago, or so? What was the point of rebooting the EU if you're just going to reuse it all? So you can rip ideas off it and change enough to claim its yours while the original source is considered "non canon". Of course that only works if you're successful  Also now that I think about it they reused this idea twice in the ST. The First Order was supposed to be the true sith/empire to replace the Galactic Empire since it failed to protect Palpatine, and then they hit the panic button after TLJ and rehashed it again.
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The thing about this movie is that while it's a mixture of very dumb stuff and some cool stuff, the cool stuff is scene specific and the dumb stuff taints the entire movie. I still love the saber fight where Kylo and Rey are in two completely different locations though.
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christmas boots posted:For one thing Palpatine was the ultimate villain the entire time rather than being shoehorned in the last one. It's also pretty clear from the first one that he's playing both sides to grant himself power. The execution leaves a lot to be desired but the through line of Palpatine's creating a conflict that he exploits to place himself in power destroy the Jedi is a pretty straightforward one. It seems pretty clear to me that the prequels were created with at least the skeleton of the overall arc already in mind, whereas the newer movies obviously did not have that. Ah, you're right that Palpatine was a pretty consistent throughline for the PT - I kept thinking of Anakin's storyline which veered pretty wildly between movies. I'll note that even Palps and his machinations were subject to curious dropped threads and reversals: the Sifo Diyas thing feels like a Chekhov's Gun that never got fired (even if it was always planned to simply be Count Dooku's alias and nothing more, the Star Wars prequels are the kind of movie you'd expect to tell you that emphatically, even if it was just "hello Count... or should I say SIFO DIYAS?"), Count Dooku himself feels like something of a false start (I believe Lucas admitted Dooku was originally planned to last much longer into Ep.III, and his death at the hands of Anakin much more instrumental in turning him to the dark side than was the case in the final film), and they were pretty clearly already setting up a more gradual physical transformation for the Chancellor in Ep.II before changing their mind. That said, though, you could make a case that Palpatine is the actual main character of the prequel trilogy.
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The only way any of this makes sense IS if Palpatine is the main character.
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DeadFatDuckFat posted:I just watched this and wow this was not good. I'm sure all the bad stuff has been talked about already. There was literally nothing memorable about this movie, besides the hilarious i know, right? it was just 2.5 hours of AND THEY WENT AND THEY WENT AND THEY WENT like a five year old explaining his toys
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These 9 movies in retrospect are about how Palpatine’s behind it all and is nigh unkillable and probably survived this movie.
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SidneyIsTheKiller posted:That said, though, you could make a case that Palpatine is the actual main character of the prequel trilogy. He's the main character of all Star Wars now.
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I maintain that the only media where an energy push type fight belongs is dragonball. gently caress this stupid poo poo in star wars and harry potter
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DeadFatDuckFat posted:I maintain that the only media where an energy push type fight belongs is dragonball. gently caress this stupid poo poo in star wars and harry potter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-E6SyHq-yo&t=174s 
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I skipped around your 20 minute video and all I noticed was some characters humping around a giant bearded dragon. Also mmos are bad and dumb
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SidneyIsTheKiller posted:I went and saw Rise of Skywalka a second time and the plot did make a little bit more sense this go-round. Clever move by JJ Abrams to require a second viewing to understand what's happening. (9) Daisy Ridley has FOURTH billing behind Adam Driver who's third and Carrie Fisher who has top billing. Mark Hamill is second billed (10) After four years and three movies and half a dozen viewings between them, I can now finally recognize Rey and Kylo Ren's themes in the score. They ain't bad but they're often played way too subtly throughout the series. There's some kind of "friendship" theme new to this one that has a nice melody to it. I have bad short term memory when it comes to music so it's usually a good sign if I can actually tell what the themes are after just a couple watches. (11) Rey really should've gotten a hand cut off at some point.
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Can someone tell me why rey died. Is it because her gramps sucked off her and kylo
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SidneyIsTheKiller posted:I went and saw Rise of Skywalka a second time and the plot did make a little bit more sense this go-round. Clever move by JJ Abrams to require a second viewing to understand what's happening. What is wrong with you?
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christmas boots posted:They're the rea Sith or whatever. They descendants of the old Sith Empire that formed a cult that was working behind the scenes throughout all of history and somehow became loyal to Palpatine personally. So canonically they've been building that fleet since before the Phantom Menace which is really dumb imo I really hate this modern fiction brainworm that everything needs to be a giant scheme that's secretly been running in the background the whole time we swear we SWEAR. It basically never holds water when compared against the preceding events of the stories in which that device is abused, and even if it does, it still deflates any dramatic momentum because the protagonists' circumstances are no longer a product of their story decisions but the result of some shadowy will dragging them around by the nose, often for no discernable reason With Star Wars in specific it's an emblem of their mortal terror of writing the story forward into something new
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I'm jushappy that Oscar Issac and John Boyega no longer give a single gently caress. I love it.
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Oscar Isaac is the best. He's such a cool dude and I hope he gets to be the lead in a huge sci-fi or fantasy franchise that doesn't suck smelly goats sometime in the not so far future because he deserves it for getting messily thrown around by Kennedy and her Disney exec friends for years.
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Cough Drop The Beat posted:Oscar Isaac is the best. He's such a cool dude and I hope he gets to be the lead in a huge sci-fi or fantasy franchise that doesn't suck smelly goats sometime in the not so far future because he deserves it for getting messily thrown around by Kennedy and her Disney exec friends for years. Is Metal Gear good enough
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Sucks that he got the role of Apocalypse and they threw him in a poo poo costume for a poo poo script with poo poo glued to his face so he had no way to actually act.
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TheIncredulousHulk posted:Is Metal Gear good enough Metal Gear?!
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Cough Drop The Beat posted:Oscar Isaac is the best. He's such a cool dude and I hope he gets to be the lead in a huge sci-fi or fantasy franchise that doesn't suck smelly goats sometime in the not so far future because he deserves it for getting messily thrown around by Kennedy and her Disney exec friends for years. He was excellent in Ex Machina and I hope he gets more roles that let him be a subdued maniac
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Cough Drop The Beat posted:Oscar Isaac is the best. He's such a cool dude and I hope he gets to be the lead in a huge sci-fi or fantasy franchise that doesn't suck smelly goats sometime in the not so far future because he deserves it for getting messily thrown around by Kennedy and her Disney exec friends for years. Don't know if he'll be the lead, but he's Duke Leto Atreides in the upcoming Dune movie
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Kazak posted:He was excellent in Ex Machina and I hope he gets more roles that let him be a subdued maniac https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7C69HqnV8s
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SidneyIsTheKiller posted:I'll be careful. My favorite thing that I've seen from the art/reference books is the new-production Y-wings made to look like the stripped-down ones the Rebellion canonically salvaged from scrap yards, with the uncharitably paraphrased explanation that that's the look people recognize as the real Y-wing. That's just so petty.
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Kazak posted:He was excellent in Ex Machina and I hope he gets more roles that let him be a subdued maniac Ex Machina is a vastly underrated brilliant film. Alicia Vikander is so amazing in that movie too.
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This is exactly what I was referring to
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