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Moola posted:What is wrong with you? You know that one episode of Rocko's Modern Life where Rocko is trying to persuade a guy at the grocery store not to buy his dog Spunky as dog meat, and he lists all kinds of bad and unhealthy things that dog meat contains, including last but not least "PCBs", and the guy just deadpannedly responds, "I like PCBs." ? Well, I'm that guy. I like PCBs.
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TheIncredulousHulk posted:Is Metal Gear good enough if that movie ever actually gets off the ground he’s gonna be so good in that part
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Poe and Colonel Hux had a much stranger and more colorful history together than they ever let on. Cough Drop The Beat posted:Oscar Isaac is the best. He's such a cool dude and I hope he gets to be the lead in a huge sci-fi or fantasy franchise that doesn't suck smelly goats sometime in the not so far future because he deserves it for getting messily thrown around by Kennedy and her Disney exec friends for years. I like Oscar Isaac, too, but in hindsight I'm not sure he was a good fit for Star Wars, especially as part of a gung-ho group of adventuring heroes. The guy's got charisma, for sure, but he's just too good at playing a jerk that I think just about every role he plays is going to eventually head in some kind of jerk direction like it did here. He's also magnetic enough that he aaaaaaalmost gets a pass from me anyways but I don't know how long a Star Wars ensemble can accommodate "wiry uptight jerk who is constantly complaining about and arguing with everyone else." Isaac's more of an Al Pacino type, only a little less manic and a little more depressive.
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SidneyIsTheKiller posted:Observations: (12) I like that the Emperor is presented here as Star Wars Satan and he lives on a planet in a region of space that is essentially Star Wars Hell. (13) I noticed something in this movie that I hadn't noticed in new movies in a while: film grain. It looked very distinguished. I appreciated it. (14) Before this movie, I held the opinion that in all the actors in all the Star Wars movies, Benicio Del Toro was the one who least disappeared into the Star Wars universe and the whole time it was just like hey, there's Benicio Del Toro standing in the middle of a scene in Star Wars. (Seriously, if loving Jimmy Smits could do it...) Well, whatever that guy's name is that was from that Lost TV show went and ran laps around Benicio for this title. It looks like he just stepped right out of Lost and started hanging out with the resistance at their hideaway (that they're outdoors with a lot of greenery doesn't help matters). To make things more irritating you know he's probably there in the first place because of his connection with Abrams and it's a reminder that Abrams turns anything he makes into "JJ Abrams and His Dork Friends Present..."
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Babu frick was pretty cool
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Disappointed that Disney chose to censor his canonical name of Babu gently caress
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Jan 1, 2020 05:42
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Babu Fucks
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A throne! And it's the perfect size for my little body
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skasion posted:Disappointed that Disney chose to censor his canonical name of Babu gently caress Frick is a real surname though and its cool and good
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DeadFatDuckFat posted:Frick is a real surname though and its cool and good Counter point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argel_Fucks?wprov=sfti1
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Jan 1, 2020 06:14
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LOL no way. That owns
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Could someone explain something to me, I keep seeing TLJ defenders say that Snoke was a nothing character and no one cares if he died but uh wasn't it Rian Johnson's job to make him a character in the first place? Like wasn't he just a spoopy hologram with 2 or 3 lines in TFA and he could have been literally anything the second movie director wanted? Maybe a space mogul who bought the Emperor's secret stash on auction and got super hosed by the Sith voodoo, tie it into the lovely casino planet and have a normal picture of him end of The Shining style in the background of a shot, I don't know I don't even watch these stupid movies but something is usually better than nothing
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Jan 1, 2020 06:56
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It was probably easier to just kill him off than try and explain why he existed or was hosed up or was such a great force user that came out of nowhere
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Perfect Potato posted:Could someone explain something to me, I keep seeing TLJ defenders say that Snoke was a nothing character and no one cares if he died but uh wasn't it Rian Johnson's job to make him a character in the first place? Like wasn't he just a spoopy hologram with 2 or 3 lines in TFA and he could have been literally anything the second movie director wanted? Maybe a space mogul who bought the Emperor's secret stash on auction and got super hosed by the Sith voodoo, tie it into the lovely casino planet and have a normal picture of him end of The Shining style in the background of a shot, I don't know I don't even watch these stupid movies but something is usually better than nothing Snoke seemed pretty well characterized to me? He was basically a perpetually angry old zombie basketball coach in a shimmering gold bathrobe. Kind of like Biff from Back to the Future but with the dark side. I mean, what did we learn about the Emperor in Return of the Jedi? That he was a sassy old gremlin who shot electricity out of his hands and that was literally it. We didn't even learn his name. Hell, the Emperor also went out like a little bitch after failing to anticipate his apprentice was going to betray him. I have no idea why people complain about how Snoke got it.
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TK-42-1 posted:It was probably easier to just kill him off than try and explain why he existed or was hosed up or was such a great force user that came out of nowhere Rey was a failed clone experiment by the emperor to create a strong sith heir (no one would bang him), a precursor to snoke, which is why she only sees herself in the cave when she wants to see her parents in TLJ. Palp just lies about being her gramps in order to piss her off and draw her to him. Her "dad" was a defecting imp officer that didn't want to murder a kid when ordered to. Hire me Disney
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Really though. I think the movie should have started with the First Order and the Resistance finding out that Palpatine had a secret fleet/superweapon whatever that they need to get the wayfinder to actually find but then have it be an actual surprise when Palpatine is actually there and alive. Revealing that at the start of the movie adds nothing to the plot.
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SidneyIsTheKiller posted:Snoke seemed pretty well characterized to me? He was basically a perpetually angry old zombie basketball coach in a shimmering gold bathrobe. Kind of like Biff from Back to the Future but with the dark side. Maybe because the Emperor was his own thing while Snoke was a shallow knock-off that nobody expanded upon at all? Edit: Seriously, eat poo poo
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TK-42-1 posted:It was probably easier to just kill him off than try and explain why he existed or was hosed up or was such a great force user that came out of nowhere Honestly "is one of a series of powerful force-wielding clones created to be a proxy for the undead former Emperor of the galaxy in the initial phase of his plan to return to power" is almost certainly at least as satisfying a backstory for ol' Snokey as anything else they could've written for him. poo poo, for anyone who's disappointed he was offed, he's almost guaranteed to return in some animated show somewhere. Who knows how many Snokes were made? Imagine if there were like half a dozen Snokes running around who were all as powerful as the Snoke we saw appeared to be. And what if they all took over their own nearby parsecs and then you had a multi-front "War of the Snokes" as they all fought it out to see who was the most powerful Snoke of them all? Hell, killing Snoke might have been the best thing to ever happen to the character!
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For me the problem with Snoke's death is that it happens half way through the film, which is itself supposed to be part 2 of a trilogy TLJ in general felt like both the middle and climax of a trilogy.
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TK-42-1 posted:Luuke Fiingerblaaaster
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Snoke’s purpose was to get killed by Kylo Ren. JJ put him in because he thought it would look cool and be mysterious to have a mysterious Sith guy and Rian had Kylo kill him because Sith apprentices always kill their masters and take on a new apprentice (Dark side has a bad management culture) and Kylo’s whole deal was trying to solve his problems by repeating the same mistakes while lying to himself about it. He kills Snoke so he can take Rey as his apprentice. Snoke as a character exists to serve the character needs of the main characters. See also, lots of other characters in Star Wars.
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Get this... SNOOKE
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I watched ROTJ on Disney plus and apparently at some point they added Vader saying "no... no!!!" When he betrays palpatine and saves Luke. It was super dumb. Especially cause I loved the way they did that scene originally when I saw it as a kid. Silently picking up the emperor was really cool and moving. Like, they let the music do the talking. It was fine.
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I feel like one of the only reasons Snoke was invented was because the first time someone suggested they bring a Palpatine back from the dead it was dismissed as being a dumb and bad idea.SHISHKABOB posted:I watched ROTJ on Disney plus and apparently at some point they added Vader saying "no... no!!!" When he betrays palpatine and saves Luke. It was super dumb. Especially cause I loved the way they did that scene originally when I saw it as a kid. Silently picking up the emperor was really cool and moving. Like, they let the music do the talking. It was fine. Well George Lucas says you’re wrong.
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George had always wanted Vader to say “No” but the technology just wasn’t there back in the 80s
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Trixie Hardcore posted:I feel like one of the only reasons Snoke was invented was because the first time someone suggested they bring a Palpatine back from the dead it was dismissed as being a dumb and bad idea. Well George also said the cantina music should be called Jizz, that the death stick dealer from AotC was named Elan Sleazebaggano, and that Obi-Wan was from the planet Stewjon. In other words he’s a goddamn genius.
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SHISHKABOB posted:I watched ROTJ on Disney plus and apparently at some point they added Vader saying "no... no!!!" When he betrays palpatine and saves Luke. It was super dumb. Especially cause I loved the way they did that scene originally when I saw it as a kid. Silently picking up the emperor was really cool and moving. Like, they let the music do the talking. It was fine. They did this for the OT blu ray debut. Up til then I had taken all the special edition tomfoolery in stride , but that revision genuinely offended me. I never bought the blu rays specifically because of that. Funny enough I was also watching Return of the Jedi on Disney+ earlier but I had the Spanish dub on. I figured "well hey I'm sure they didn't bother to add that 'Nooo' poo poo into the dubs, too." They did. Hahahahaha *sobs*
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SidneyIsTheKiller posted:poo poo, if it weren't for the fact it'd sound too much like a zombie flick, I'd vouch for The Dead Speak to be the drat TITLE of the movie. christmas boots posted:Well George also said the cantina music should be called Jizz, that the death stick dealer from AotC was named Elan Sleazebaggano, and that Obi-Wan was from the planet Stewjon.
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J J Abrams has a history of being a great storyteller, let's definitely have him do the first and last movies in this series.
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Star Wars Twitter is extremely lit tonight Fam https://twitter.com/stellarcarol/status/1211773706340618241?s=21 https://twitter.com/shaun_vids/status/1212193889488187395?s=21 https://twitter.com/russelllatshaw/status/1211781882548871168?s=21 My biggest issue with the Disney trilogy is that we are told, more than we are shown, that Poe and Rey and Finn are a team who love and care about each other, when in reality they all spend a very small amount of time adventuring together. Compared to Luke, Leia, and Han//Chewie who really do seem to mix it up and go lots of places and do things together, Rey and Finn and Poe intersect occasionally and then the music and the camera glaring at the warm smiles tell us they this is emotionally impactful without earning that feeling whatsoever. It was really bothering me before today but reading about how much Oscar and John and Daisy love each other IRL and how badly they wished they had gotten to do more together really drove the point home. Bust Rodd fucked around with this message at 09:21 on Jan 1, 2020 |
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I remember when this theory was floated for Finn and I thought it was stupid as Hell and sucked rancid balls. I don't think adding a love interest for Finn with basically the same backstory as him and making HER related to one of the only other black people in the GFFA is any loving better.
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Ahahaha it's not so funny when it's someone else who's retconning your poo poo is it, George?George Lucas Was a No Show at The Rise of Skywalker Premiere posted:George Lucas skipped out on The Rise of Skywalker World Premiere earlier this week. The movie marks the end of the line for the sequel trilogy and the Skywalker Saga as a whole. One would think that Lucas might have wanted to see how J.J. Abrams ended what he started over 40 years ago, but that apparently wasn't the case this time around. quote:One of the more obvious things that may have angered Lucas in The Rise of Skywalker is the fact that J.J. Abrams brought back Emperor Palpatine. Ian McDiarmid recalled a talk that he had with the director a handful of years ago where he confirmed Palpatine was indeed dead. TheIncredulousHulk posted:Maybe because the Emperor was his own thing while Snoke was a shallow knock-off that nobody expanded upon at all? 
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Bust Rodd posted:My biggest issue with the Disney trilogy is that we are told, more than we are shown, that Poe and Rey and Finn are a team who love and care about each other, when in reality they all spend a very small amount of time adventuring together. Compared to Luke, Leia, and Han//Chewie who really do seem to mix it up and go lots of places and do things together, Rey and Finn and Poe intersect occasionally and then the music and the camera glaring at the warm smiles tell us they this is emotionally impactful without earning that feeling whatsoever. It was really bothering me before today but reading about how much Oscar and John and Daisy love each other IRL and how badly they wished they had gotten to do more together really drove the point home. Yeah tends to happen when you end your first movie with 1 character in a coma, the other meeting Luke and no time gap, unlike literally every movie in the series before. It all stems from having to end with Luke on that loving planet and not thinking about the next movie at all. Have to have a mystery to find Luke. Like poo poo on tlj if you want but nobody could write "Luke Skywalker abandoned his friends to do xyz." And not have it come back to bite them in the rear end.
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christmas boots posted:Well George also said the cantina music should be called Jizz, that the death stick dealer from AotC was named Elan Sleazebaggano, and that Obi-Wan was from the planet Stewjon. It's a shame we'll never get Darth Icky and Darth Insanius anymore.
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Bust Rodd posted:My biggest issue with the Disney trilogy is that we are told, more than we are shown, that Poe and Rey and Finn are a team who love and care about each other, when in reality they all spend a very small amount of time adventuring together. I'm genuinely pleased how far ROS went to try to rectify this and keep the cast together as much as possible (on a rewatch of the previous two I was floored when I realized that Rey and Poe don't even meet each other until the end of TLJ). The "WE ARE BEST FRIENDS" stuff is indeed contrived, but at least the cast does have great chemistry to the point where they almost succeed in making it feel like they've been this tight-knight since the beginning. It's just plain part of the whole Star Wars magic to see a colorful groups of characters bond and get out of jams together, so better late than never I guess. Moola posted:For me the problem with Snoke's death is that it happens half way through the film, which is itself supposed to be part 2 of a trilogy TLJ really, really plays out like Rian Johnson hated the material TFA left him to work with but, not wanting to simply reverse or conspicuously drop things, he decides to just quickly take everything to its natural conclusion so he can wipe the slate clean; sort of burning it all down via accelerationism. TLJ seems to regard Snoke as just a big rear end in a top hat whose main purpose is to be an obstacle for Kylo to overcome, so it decides to get that out of the way earlier than anybody would expect to at least get a surprise out of him. Hux is a snotty nincompoop and TLJ decides to relegate him to comic relief. Kylo Ren is a silly wannabe but at least that seemed by design and it's obvious he's got the most potential for character growth, so the movie's eager to try to mature him to a place where you can believe he'll become the legitimate head villain. Meanwhile TLJ looks at Rey, whose characterization TFA has defined as mostly a big blank, and figures the least convoluted thing to do with her is to make her "nothingness" the central insecurity of her character (the Rey of TFA almost doesn't seem to have specific insecurities). And it was left with a Luke who had exiled himself over guilt, so TLJ runs with that, and while it's at it lets him make digs about how all the events immediately preceding this film were a huge mistake. At the end TLJ has tied up the loose ends it found most irritating and leave the story a wide open field almost as a courtesy to whoever's next, like "here, nothing's in your way, you can pretty much do whatever you feel like, go wild."
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Trixie Hardcore posted:George had always wanted Vader to say “No” but the technology just wasn’t there back in the 80s lmfao
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I've seen it suggested that the medal is the one that she gives Han originally, but if that's the case the scene should've been in TFA where it could've meant something instead of the... nothing? that happens between Chewie and Leia after Han's death
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Moola posted:For me the problem with Snoke's death is that it happens half way through the film, which is itself supposed to be part 2 of a trilogy TFA felt the same way to me though. I mean they introduce the super-mega-duper-deathstar full of New Order troops in the first movie and then blow it up in the first movie as well. That was the new threat and after it's gone it's really unclear what there's left to do Oh and Rey defeats Kylo Ren in her first swordfight in the first movie as well Watch it again, she literally masters the force by closing her eyes for a few seconds and then beats the absolute poo poo out of Kylo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJTz-ahXyyI TFA was an absolute mess of a movie if you think about it for even a couple of seconds. This, despite the fact that it was mostly cribbing from the old movies already Zzulu fucked around with this message at 13:17 on Jan 1, 2020 |
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SidneyIsTheKiller posted:I'm genuinely pleased how far ROS went to try to rectify this and keep the cast together as much as possible (on a rewatch of the previous two I was floored when I realized that Rey and Poe don't even meet each other until the end of TLJ). The "WE ARE BEST FRIENDS" stuff is indeed contrived, but at least the cast does have great chemistry to the point where they almost succeed in making it feel like they've been this tight-knight since the beginning. It's just plain part of the whole Star Wars magic to see a colorful groups of characters bond and get out of jams together, so better late than never I guess.
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