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Olaf The Stout posted:I actually am legit curious why some games earn a "I won't play because your only option is male" and some games are "well yeah it's mario of course"? What is the threshold where a game is good enough or famous enough that the gender of the protag no longer matters? there's a difference between a mario platformer and an extremely story-heavy, choice-focused roleplaying game
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BioEnchanted posted:The General RAAM boss at the end of Gears of War is kind of hard in a boring way. Just wait in hte light until he throws his krill, shoot him a bunch before they get back to him, run to the end of the train when he gets too close and that's kind of it, it's just that he can kill you quickly. General RAAM is the worst part if the first game
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Byzantine posted:Cooking, crafting, ammo modifying benches, all of those things are crap and drag down any game they're in. I say that depends on the pace of the game and its design, alongside the quality of life options for the crafting itself. Excluding obvious things that have it as a main focus, like terraria and minecraft, I find it fine when its quick and easy to do and lets you make stuff like consumables in bulk. Warframe is a great example of stuff both done right and horribly wrong, you only need to have the stuff and click a button to craft and you can search and filter for what you want to make, but you cant queue up more than one of the same item and cant have it just start another after the last finished or tell it to use things after they finish crafting to craft the whole they are part of. It gets really noticeably bad when you have 20 blueprints for a thing that you can never have enough of, but each of them takes 24 hours to make.
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You can role play as a hard nosed authoritarian communist with a love of disco who has regular conversations with his own spine and the mechanics and writing will bend over backwards to accommodate you A woman, though? that's asking a bit much
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Riatsala posted:You can role play as a hard nosed authoritarian communist with a love of disco who has regular conversations with his own spine and the mechanics and writing will bend over backwards to accommodate you Honestly though Disco Elysium has a lot to say about toxic masculinity, particularly in the protagonist. A female protagonist would require addressing very different things. It's not impossible but I think its being severely underestimated how small the team and budget actually was for the game. If those arent topics that interest you I absolutely understand, its not going to work for everyone and I'm not trying to sell people who arent interested on buying it. But I dont think misogny was the reason for the decision.
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Jan 1, 2020 18:39
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Riatsala posted:A woman, though? that's asking a bit much Yes, it is. There are tons of games that are a model swap and couple dozen voicelines away from having the choice to play as a woman, and I can understand being frustrated with them. Disco Elysium seems like a pretty bizarre choice to single out, because it's already a really elaborate and reactive RPG being made by an indie studio, and changing the protagonist to a woman would require a huge amount of additional text and dialogue changes. It would be cool if it existed, yes, but it would be a major undertaking.
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In Katana Zero the most basic melee enemies kill you before their attack animation even plays the attack part.
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Tiggum posted:I assume it's some kind of disco-themed variation on Dance Dance Revolution, or possibly Guitar Hero. But you have to be a man to play it for some reason? Just like 90% of rpgs 
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It's amazing that the same display of fragile masculinity happens every time because the sadbrains can't wrap their heads around someone not wanting to roleplay as a man.
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Jan 1, 2020 21:20
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I just beat Later Alligator which is adorable, but the hippie and bodybuilder minigames are incredibly frustrating, and it doesn't help that the hippies failure state is permanent until new game plus.
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Jan 1, 2020 21:44
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Samuringa posted:It's amazing that the same display of fragile masculinity happens every time because the sadbrains can't wrap their heads around someone not wanting to roleplay as a man. You got it. It's not that 'not playing a game because you have to play as an icky guy' is grade school poo poo, it's all fragile masculinity.
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Overwatch Porn posted:imagine an eyeroll emote but really big Is this big enough? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfelqZpapZA
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Its fair if you can't play specifically a role playing game as yourself, but often when a role playing game is brought up in a positive light there is always someone who comes in and says actually its bad because you play a man and its tedious and pointless. No talk about the gameplay or the story, and whenever its brought up as a weak reason to not only refuse to play but to then call the game bad the person reacts like its some big patriarchal conspiracy to keep women out of video games. Its as if the strawwoman that reddit and 4chan loves bringing up in any kind of video game discourse was made real.
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Jan 1, 2020 22:10
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Selklubber posted:Is this big enough? That's big and pretty with the music, but the way the big head is rolling and spewing makes it more like it's physically sick rather than mentally sick of another's bullshit
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Jan 1, 2020 22:12
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Leal posted:Its fair if you can't play specifically a role playing game as yourself, but often when a role playing game is brought up in a positive light there is always someone who comes in and says actually its bad because you play a man and its tedious and pointless. No talk about the gameplay or the story, and whenever its brought up as a weak reason to not only refuse to play but to then call the game bad the person reacts like its some big patriarchal conspiracy to keep women out of video games. Its as if the strawwoman that reddit and 4chan loves bringing up in any kind of video game discourse was made real. the only strawwoman here is the one you've made up in your brain, where someone bringing up a little thing they don't like about a game is actually them calling the entire game bad
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Jan 1, 2020 22:14
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True, they can't form an opinion if the entire game is bad when they refuse to play it at all in the first place. But also lol if you don't think that isn't a popular piece of straw that Gamers like to wave around.
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Jan 1, 2020 22:16
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Leal posted:Its fair if you can't play specifically a role playing game as yourself, but often when a role playing game is brought up in a positive light there is always someone who comes in and says actually its bad because you play a man and its tedious and pointless. No talk about the gameplay or the story, and whenever its brought up as a weak reason to not only refuse to play but to then call the game bad the person reacts like its some big patriarchal conspiracy to keep women out of video games. Its as if the strawwoman that reddit and 4chan loves bringing up in any kind of video game discourse was made real. find something better to post about jfc
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Spinning Robo posted:You got it. It's not that 'not playing a game because you have to play as an icky guy' is grade school poo poo, it's all fragile masculinity. Literally already explained, they went through great pains to make it as simple as possible to understand too. Please don't get so invested in video games that you get mad at someone for not buying one. Overwatch Porn posted:it's easy to not care about representation when your gender is the one that's everywhere. in the vast majority of games, you know you'll be able to play as a man. being able to identify with the playable character is something men take for granted, but is still immensely novel for women; hell i'd be happy if basically every game had a Prey-styled choice at the beginning. it's a little thing but makes such a big difference Selklubber posted:Is this big enough? No, that's  This is Big Enoughhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvrZJ5C_Nwg
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Leal posted:Its fair if you can't play specifically a role playing game as yourself, but often when a role playing game is brought up in a positive light there is always someone who comes in and says actually its bad because you play a man and its tedious and pointless. No talk about the gameplay or the story, and whenever its brought up as a weak reason to not only refuse to play but to then call the game bad the person reacts like its some big patriarchal conspiracy to keep women out of video games. Its as if the strawwoman that reddit and 4chan loves bringing up in any kind of video game discourse was made real. Your gimmick sucks.
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Sorry for explaining why people want to tell someone to try a game they like when said person's reason for not playing it is the gender of the character. Like I said, I understand where Overwatch is coming from and acknowledge she DOES play games with male protagonists, but when it comes to an RPG she wants to play a female cause that is who she identifies it. When people try to tell her why not give it a try anyways cause its a good game and try to put the main character's gender aside and it always causes these derails and its getting tiresome and repetitive with no one giving ground and talking past one another.
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I am a Disco Elysium fan, but I'd say that if the reason you have not played this game or any game is because of an issue of representation, that is ultimately fair. It's not my wish that anyone feel less-than-included by the market of games such that you do not pick up every game because of it. Ideally, there would be enough well-written experiences like Disco Elysium for all kinds of stories and characters that representation would not be a barrier to play. That is a better world.
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If I posted that the reason I cannot play Control is because it's a shooter and I don't play shooters, the correct response is not 'okay but it's really important that it's a shooter, so you're wrong and should play it anyway'.
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The real problem with Disco Elysium? The voice acting, turn that poo poo off posthaste 
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Cleretic posted:If I posted that the reason I cannot play Control is because it's a shooter and I don't play shooters, the correct response is not 'okay but it's really important that it's a shooter, so you're wrong and should play it anyway'. But you don't understand the true artistry of pokemon snap, I don't care if you love neither pokemon, nor snapping, and have never expressed interest in an on-rails photography based game in your life and have expressly told me you don't want that. You must experience the sheer joy that is feeding pikachu an apple from a distance of twenty five meters, and taking a picture of it. It is nothing short of transcendental.
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this is tedious as gently caress holy poo poo
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fwiw i did actually start playing DE last night because my husband adores it and wants to see my take on it. i'll be sure to keep everyone updated
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Cleretic posted:If I posted that the reason I cannot play Control is because it's a shooter and I don't play shooters, the correct response is not 'okay but it's really important that it's a shooter, so you're wrong and should play it anyway'. That's similar to what I told my sister and it didn't work because I forgot the game was hard and then she said to me "this game is awesome but I haven't played many shooters and it's too frustrating" and then went to try Outer Worlds instead. HIDDEN SEGUE TO NEXT COMPLAINT - I actually really enjoy Control's gameplay, but the setting, exploration, writing, etc. etc. are all so good that I really wish there was an easier difficulty option so I could recommend it to people who wouldn't normally play a game like it. I understand having games with one set difficulty when it's core to the experience, but with Control I honestly think the game would be about as good with a "skip fight" button.
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Cleretic posted:If I posted that the reason I cannot play Control is because it's a shooter and I don't play shooters, the correct response is not 'okay but it's really important that it's a shooter, so you're wrong and should play it anyway'. "I really don't like eating steak." "No you don't understand, the point of eating this steak is that it's not only a steak, it's such a well-done and broiled steak that it's deliberately difficult to eat and a commentary on problems with steak preparation. Therefore you should really force yourself to eat this steak or else you aren't well-informed enough to have an opinion on steaks at all."
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Overwatch Porn posted:fwiw i did actually start playing DE last night because my husband adores it and wants to see my take on it. i'll be sure to keep everyone updated Haha i always get em in the end!
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Brazilianpeanutwar posted:Haha i always get em in the end! HUMAN CAN OPENER ALERT
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Breath of the Wild I love tossing my nearly-broken weapon into an enemy's face with that satisfying critical hit sound(if a weapon breaks when thrown it deals double the damage). I just wish I could throw my near broken shield at them too like some kind of Captain Hylian
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Caufman posted:HUMAN CAN OPENER ALERT Fucken got em! CUNO STYLE!
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Sekiro: After the halfway-point when Ashina Castle gets attacked I tire of the game. The rest of the game is almost entirely back-to-back with bosses with only one area left to explore. It's telling how small the game is when so many boss-arenas get reused and so many minibosses get palette-swaps. Given that this is the sixth title by From you'd think they'd make an action-camera that doesn't blow. If the enemy towers over you or the room is cramped then the experience turns into a handheld movie directed by an epileptic. The Dragonrot and crafting-system feel especially pointless. The Hidden Aid bonus is not something you'd ever rely on, and you'll only ever need to cure the disease once to advance an NPC's questline. It feels a waste that all the materials you pick up can only be used for making prosthetic-tools. It wouldn't have broken the difficulty to have some kind of ring or rune system that give passive buffs as in the previous games.
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BioEnchanted posted:I just beat Later Alligator which is adorable, but the hippie and bodybuilder minigames are incredibly frustrating, and it doesn't help that the hippies failure state is permanent until new game plus. This is a really weird request, but could you put systems and years after some of these? Like I know spyro 2 was a game sure, and I normally just accept that these games exist, but later alligator ? With minigames involving hippies and bodybuilders??
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ilmucche posted:This is a really weird request, but could you put systems and years after some of these? Like I know spyro 2 was a game sure, and I normally just accept that these games exist, but later alligator ? With minigames involving hippies and bodybuilders?? later alligator came out this year and it is delightful and lovely and must be played by more people
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ilmucche posted:This is a really weird request, but could you put systems and years after some of these? Like I know spyro 2 was a game sure, and I normally just accept that these games exist, but later alligator ? With minigames involving hippies and bodybuilders?? https://store.steampowered.com/app/966320/Later_Alligator/
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Captain Hygiene posted:The real problem with Disco Elysium? The voice acting, turn that poo poo off posthaste Wait, there's voice acting?! This whole time I thought it was just a black screen with text. Are there graphics? No one can actually explain what the game is like aside from how they died in strange adventure-game esq ways like trying to get a tie off a ceiling fan and having a heart attack in the process. Zinkraptor posted:That's similar to what I told my sister and it didn't work because I forgot the game was hard and then she said to me "this game is awesome but I haven't played many shooters and it's too frustrating" and then went to try Outer Worlds instead. I'm right there with you man (I assume). Imagine if you could just boot the game up on chill mode and enemies did 90% less damage and you had Wolverine-esq healing as well. It'd be a lot easier to recommend to everyone because of that. Platformer complaint- mostly just Mario and Crash Bandicoot. Why doesn't the invincibility power up make you immune to falling down pits too? RareAcumen has a new favorite as of 01:16 on Jan 2, 2020 |
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RareAcumen posted:Wait, there's voice acting?! This whole time I thought it was just a black screen with text. Are there graphics? No one can actually explain what the game is like aside from how they died in strange adventure-game esq ways like trying to get a tie off a ceiling fan and having a heart attack in the process. it's a dialogue-driven isometric rpg with skill checks in the place of combat
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Oxxidation posted:it's a dialogue-driven isometric rpg with skill checks in the place of combat So it's Bastion but there's only conversations the entire time?
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RareAcumen posted:Wait, there's voice acting?! This whole time I thought it was just a black screen with text. Are there graphics? No one can actually explain what the game is like aside from how they died in strange adventure-game esq ways like trying to get a tie off a ceiling fan and having a heart attack in the process. You could look it up? It's basically a spiritual successor to planescape. It's an isometric RPG focused on dialouge over combat, the dialogue is particularly snappy and clever. The reason people are going apeshit over it is it's something people have wanted for a long time and haven't gotten till now given the Torment: Tides of Numenera game was a bit of a flop and the other Isometric RPGs that have come out (Pillars of Eternity, Divinity: Original Sin) while good, are more combat focused while this isnt.
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