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I'm surrounded by Harley people, and you know honestly, the stereotypes are mostly true. They do tend to get exaggerated for comedic effect, and yes, the average Harley rider does less than a thousand miles a year. Having said that, The people I ride with are mostly boomers who actually ride and work on their own bikes. They don't have a problem switching to Kawasaki and goldwings when arthritis starts to set in. Only one person I know actually got a trike conversion, and as much as I used to hate those things, they do make sense for when you are old, and want to take your wife out on the Sunday. The trike also comes with a full-size trunk, which is excellent. They are mostly stereotypically white, racist and fiercely conservative people, often voting against their own interests. But hey, you kind of get used to this poo poo after a while.
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Luckily for me the sport bike crowd is 100% idiot free
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Slavvy posted:If that were the case you may as well abandon bikes entirely dude, everyone on this forum is like the 0.5% cream at the top of a very, very big bucket of scum. My not-bonnie only ever attracts comment from old men, who since the election are 9000 times more likely to segue from complimenting the bike into observing that bikes were better in the old days when the UK didn't have black people I'm not going to stop riding it because of that though, it's comfy and reliable.
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Reasons people are terrible: 5 and counting. Reasons Harleys are terrible:
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Slavvy posted:Reasons people are terrible: 5 and counting. I guess it's time to get you a new avatar. Anyways: Reasons Harleys are terrible: The image Harley themselves created which drew monsters to the brand. Seemingly well made, but in the way an anvil is well made. Heavy. Too expensive for what you get. Weak innovation. Belt drives. Like, they are fine bikes. But why would you buy one when literally everything else exists.
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Lol when I wrote that I was like "haha watch me piss off the one dude whose advice I trust about the Rex and isn't a cranky old fart from the zrxoa boards" Slavvy my dude, I think we were all mostly making fun of HD the lifestyle brand that sometimes makes motorcycles, and the stereotypical consumers thereof, not the bikes. I've got nothing against an Harley Davidson itself in vacuo (aside from the shockingly rear end-invasive seat on the sportster 48). My first ride with my wife (or indeed any 2-up) was on a rented Harley*, and I enjoyed twenty minutes on a v-rod. The trouble is we're in vitro not vacuo, and the Motor Company definitely has a market niche they have assiduously pursued And that is "we are a place to buy branded junk to set off your thirty-thousand-dollar motorcycle" I ain't been to the HD dealer in years but it's possible that's starting to change as their target market ages out *she fell asleep for a few seconds at one point and was jolted awake when I rolled some train tracks, which I choose to take as less of a comment on the excitingness of the ride and more on the comfort of the back seat of an electraglide. I tried sitting back there for a few seconds and yeah I could see dozing off, it's p plush
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The rear wheel bearing exploded on the Buell Blast my Harley dad bought for me in highschool. The outer bearing cup is pressfit into the wheel and flush with it, so without the inner ring and bearing balls to hold it all together, I couldn't grab it with my puller and slide hammer. It's a Buell, it was ~2012, so I thought to bring the wheel into a Harley dealership and see? Everything stereotypically happened. The dealership was an acre of branded retail merch, then a small area with three unmanned registers for parts and service. There was a large interior window looking into the service shop space showing 3 or 4 Harleys on lifts and another 4 or 5 empty lift bays, with several guys in dealership uniforms standing around the shop. It took me about ten minutes to get someone to speak to at the service counter. They took five minutes of typing into their computer to quote me $150 to pull the bearing cup with a three week turnaround. I said "March? That's three weeks out." and he looked straight at me and said "we're really busy." The Kawasaki place did it in like eight minutes for ten bucks.
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There's gotta be something about my wording that makes goons think I'm angry when I'm not  but yeah I'll admit the culture is terrible. MATE IS THAT A JUUUUCADDDYYYE??? is just as bad, I'd argue, but less ubiquitous. But none of that makes them poo poo, especially not in the context of second hand bikes, which is most people here afaik. If they're cheap in your area you're lucky, in their own way they're just as interesting and special as anything else (if you ride a good one). I don't really know how I got here cause I've hated Harleys since forever and now I want one, and worst of all it's absolutely got to be an old lovely one. Here, I picked random places in the US until I found something old and lovely enough to suit me: https://sacramento.craigslist.org/mpo/d/sacramento-1985-harley-fxwg/7035499712.html Awful paintjob, bars, seat, brakes, all irrelevant, all easily changed. The important expensive poo poo is there - cams, box, engine, carb, pipes, wheels, rubber - the core machine is good. Replace the human interface bits, fix PO nonsense, maybe chuck some taller shocks and bigger brakes on there, scrape pegs and do burnouts into the sunset.
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Harleys are absolutely positively not reliable, when compared to Japanese iron. I'm slowly learning all the shortcuts and idiotic decisions that went into engineering the bikes. They would change parts within the production year, and never inform anyone. They would go back and forth between certain designs, like chain tensioner, while trying to figure out which one breaks the least on the Evo motor. I think around 2008 they finally got it right. And then the leaks, so many oil leaks. Brand new disposable gaskets, torqued to specs, still have a chance of leaking. Exhaust leak on the bike with 3000 miles. Cooling issues with the rear cylinder. Clutch cable that wears through and breaks right at the lever, apparently it's so common, that every Harley mechanic has a bunch of those cables and stock. There is more, and I only had a Harley for 6 months. I want to throw away this Evo and swap a V-Rod power plant in here.
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Even the VROD isn’t great. It’s only good if you’ve never ridden a proper performance bike. It builds revs fast enough and the power comes on in the top end and just when you think “ok, this is gonna get good”, BAM, rev limiter. I spent a weekend on one and put about 500 miles on it. I spent 90% of my time on the rev limiter. It’s so baffling. If it could rev about 4K more I’m positive it would be a phenomenal engine. As it stands, any muscle bike from the last 20 years will be much better to ride. I’ve spent a lot of time on a 99 Bandit 1200 and there is no comparison there, engine-wise, the Bandit is better in every way. Let’s not even talk of how the VMAX completely eats the VRODs lunch.
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The VROD sucks and is for massive tools only. Has none of the charm of the air cooled bikes, but also nearly none of the benefits the modern design should theoretically being. Those are a legit unlikeable crap bike I can't defend.
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Slavvy posted:The VROD sucks and is for massive tools only. Has none of the charm of the air cooled bikes, but also nearly none of the benefits the modern design should theoretically being. Those are a legit unlikeable crap bike I can't defend. They obviously have terrible throttle mapping because I’ve literally never seen one take off from a set of lights without ripping a limiter-bashing burnout launch.
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I’m pretty sure they were just designed to do burnouts. The torque makes it a breeze but also isn’t really usable unless you plan to be in top gear by 40mph. It could have been so good, but it just......isn’t. It was panned by the Harley diehards for not having enough ~H E R I T A G E~ and was panned by import bike enthusiasts for not even coming close to matching decades old Japanese muscle bikes.
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You can see how someone thought it would work on paper... Market the engine as designed by Porsche, pull in some of that Breitling wearing pay extra for cloth door pulls because racecar crowd, but it turns out there's different kinds of aspirational and they don't always overlap.
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Best thing about those burnouts? They have a poorly designed, half assed take on a slipper clutch that loves to blow up when you do them. I've fixed like half a dozen. Bonus: it's pretty easy to fix the clutch and make it take like 500hp, you can get a whole kit but a lot of guys just drill out the rivets on the stock primary gear and replace the basket assembly with an aftermarket type. This is a super common thing because the clutch is like the only real weak point in the driveline. The Harley dealer were completely unaware this was a thing, despite selling aftermarket clutch baskets, and the guy behind the counter was adamant drilling out those rivets was impossible. I'll take this opportunity to point out that the typical air cooled big twin has poor enough traction that satisfying burnouts are possible with half the power of a v-rod, no clutch wrecking necessary 
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when you roll the kicker instead of bouncing off it https://i.imgur.com/zDcoNjx.mp4
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Lets see a harley jump over a puddle
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echomadman posted:when you roll the kicker instead of bouncing off it https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CaGNVvBhbso
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Home for the holidays so I visited my baby out in the garage. 
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I've ridden a V-Rod briefly and like the engine way better than Evo variants. Want aware of any clutch issues, but it just felt better overall. My experience stops there.
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Merry Christmas you sometimes helpful and strangely lovable bastards.
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I'm just curious what year this Honda twinstar is? I don't know anything about bikes but I like it.
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Early 80’s. I doubt it matters as I don’t think they changed much. They were close cousins to the CM series if I recall E: oh, they literally are CM’s. Also they will go down in the pantheon of motorcycle history as hugely important 
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To be fair though, that's a CM185 or a CM200 which wouldn't have the low end torque of a 125 single and so might not be able to tow trenchers
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Yeah the above bike is probably not the right one for you if you’re looking to prep more than 500 or so acres for next seasons crops. Maaaayyybe a bean crop or something that doesn’t need much root depth but I wouldn’t push it.
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Hold on now. As the owner of a cb125t I feel obligated to point out that the cm's have pretty much the same engine, but with electric start. So it doesn't really matter if you stall in the paddock, just push the button and get going again.
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It’s that time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N7LQdBQLks
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00:01:25 got an audible OOF out of me, holy poo poo
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Renaissance Robot posted:00:01:25 got an audible OOF out of me, holy poo poo Same wtf that fireball 
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Jeez the super long montage of left turning idiots followed by all the deds sure is something!
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Lots of folks finding themselves under truck tires. Yikes.
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The number of helmets that go flying off is quite alarming
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Martytoof posted:Lots of folks finding themselves under truck tires. Ugh, 15:20.
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1:06:30 is like something out of Fury Road or Jaws 3D holy poo poo
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Nfcknblvbl posted:Ugh, 15:20. Yep that one got to me too  industrial truck driver doesnt seem to notice they've smeared two bodies across the road
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mewse posted:Yep that one got to me too Welp. That's the worst thing I've ever seen.
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Yeah I haven't been able to stomach the last couple years of No Prisoners. At the beginning it was mostly just bros being dumbasses and fishtailing into the back of parked cars, and that was fun, but lately they've crammed them full of these china/india Faces of Death stuff and it's just kind of pornographic. I've always thought that the value of the compilations is to learn about the potential dangers inherent to motorcycling, and how to mitigate them...but that's stuff like spinning out on a spot of spilled diesel or getting speed wobbles over rumble strips. No poo poo you can die if you're riding a tiny scooter with no helmet and get run over by a dump truck. Nobody needs or wants to watch that unless they're sick in the head. I wish they'd release one that had all the obvious deaths cut out.
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Sagebrush posted:Yeah I haven't been able to stomach the last couple years of No Prisoners. At the beginning it was mostly just bros being dumbasses and fishtailing into the back of parked cars, and that was fun, but lately they've crammed them full of these china/india Faces of Death stuff and it's just kind of pornographic. I've always thought that the value of the compilations is to learn about the potential dangers inherent to motorcycling, and how to mitigate them...but that's stuff like spinning out on a spot of spilled diesel or getting speed wobbles over rumble strips. No poo poo you can die if you're riding a tiny scooter with no helmet and get run over by a dump truck. Nobody needs or wants to watch that unless they're sick in the head. I’m in the same boat. There was very little learning to be done from any of them and now that it’s just faces of death it’s gross.
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I haven’t watched the last few years worth either for the same reason tbh
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