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Groovelord Neato posted:Matt's got the same mindset probably a lot of us do that Bernie HAS to win. Sanders losing the nomination would feel WAY worse than Trump winning did. This is me, too. If Bernie gets ratfucked again, it’ll crush the last vestige of hope we have, as we resign ourselves to another 2016 and another 5 years of trump.
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I do think our media doesn't know how to attack someone like Bernie. It's like attacking AOC, they just make her seem cooler to the people who already liked her and the people who didn't like her weren't going to anyway.
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Jan 1, 2020 20:11
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I don’t think the effect of the Shelby County decision can be underestimate. With both sides of the electorate hyper stimulated, the difference comes in turnout and anti-turnout.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Almost as if it's done on purpose to trivialise all of their crimes. I recall the case that got hyped to hell years ago about students bemoaning cultural appropriation on cafeterias was originally a protest between cafeteria workers themselves and students to argue for better worker conditions, and a conservative grievances group just overhyped one of the students requests for halal accommodation as that.
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Heath posted:I do think our media doesn't know how to attack someone like Bernie. It's like attacking AOC, they just make her seem cooler to the people who already liked her and the people who didn't like her weren't going to anyway. I think they got used to beating up on people who would immediately back down and assure people they aren’t socialist and how much they love America that when you get someone who leans into it and is popular for it the only real thing you can do is ignore them.
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Jan 1, 2020 20:48
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Nothus posted:I appreciate their cheerleading to cut through the fog of Nothing Matters, but I think one lesson from Labour's failure is that media manipulation still works and that there really hasn't been an all-out assault on Bernie yet. uk and us media are completely different beasts
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peanut- posted:He is going to be so crushed when Biden ends up getting the nomination. All of their predictions seem to depend on Biden's campaign sort of just evaporating. There's lots of obvious reasons that it should do just that, but not a lot of evidence that it actually will. Well, Biden is doing fine in national polls but not that well in the early primary states. As Matt and Virgil have said the theory is that the sheen on his electability argument will tarnish once he's lost 2-3 primaries in a row. It's not unprecedented either, since Biden's strength is the AA vote and Obama only added the AA vote to his coalition after winning in Iowa in 2008. I mean, it makes sense for African American voters to be extremely cautious with candidates since the stakes are even higher for them.
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The Muppets On PCP posted:uk and us media are completely different beasts And the UK media's all out assault on Corbyn went on for years, not for a couple of months.
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Heath posted:I do think our media doesn't know how to attack someone like Bernie. It's like attacking AOC, they just make her seem cooler to the people who already liked her and the people who didn't like her weren't going to anyway. They already know because they're already doing it. Lie about medicare for all and poo poo on him for not focusing on identity politics while ignoring his totally valid reason for doing so that he talks about all the time (the working class being predominately women/pocs). They'll just start repeating them more as the primaries get closer. None of the actual candidates are focusing on the "free chocolate milk" nonsense because anyone currently doing the polling and focus group work knows that medicare for all, taxing the rich, etc. are super popular. You need to smear that stuff directly, not ridicule the entire concept of spending money to fix things. Rich dipshits like Hillary don't realize this because they're not currently paying consultants six figures to fix how out of touch they are. little munchkin fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Jan 2, 2020 |
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Brown Paper Bag posted:And the UK media's all out assault on Corbyn went on for years, not for a couple of months. the us media has been attacking bernie for just as long, but it's been scattershot at best and more often than not they just ignore him because for the most part they think he's still running a novelty campaign despite fundraising and polling numbers but also he's not an elected leader of the party the same way corbyn was, so his role in day-to-day national politics is different and therefore outside of a presidential campaign he isn't gong to attract the same level of media attention little munchkin posted:None of the actual candidates are focusing on the "free chocolate milk" nonsense because anyone currently doing the polling and focus group work knows that medicare for all, taxing the rich, etc. are super popular. You need to smear that stuff directly, not ridicule the entire concept of spending money to fix things. Rich dipshits like Hillary don't realize this because they're not currently paying consultants six figures to fix how out of touch they are. m4a is actually a good example of the lack of a coherent anti-sanders messaging. more outwardly conservative candidates like biden and klobuchar campaign directly against the concept of universal health care (klobuchar in fact supports further privatization), but you also have warren and buttigieg trying to muddy the waters by claiming their obamacare-style plans are just as good and accomplish the same goal as sanders. there isn't a consensus position on universal coverage among the non-bernie wing
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I'm not going to try looking up podcast injoke history or whatever- but what is with the gimmick of Will not talking about Syria stuff
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Fabricated posted:I'm not going to try looking up podcast injoke history or whatever- but what is with the gimmick of Will not talking about Syria stuff cranks will get mad no matter what line they take.
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Fabricated posted:I'm not going to try looking up podcast injoke history or whatever- but what is with the gimmick of Will not talking about Syria stuff It's not a gimmick, they don't want to get yelled at
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Fabricated posted:I'm not going to try looking up podcast injoke history or whatever- but what is with the gimmick of Will not talking about Syria stuff There's a running gag about Felix not being allowed to tell "the truth about Syria". It's never been explained what the truth is, but it's implied that Felix's take would be so incendiary as to get them all cancelled immediately
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And the joke of Felix having a hot Syria take is kind of a leftover from when the show started and knowing/caring about the Middle East was a big part of his persona, probably doesn't ring a bell with newer listeners. Is that long reported piece he wrote for Deadspin about LGBT youth in the Gulf states still up? That would probably baffle people who only know him as the guy who talks about gamers and rappers now. e: https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/your-app-isnt-helping-the-people-of-saudi-arabia-1790198445 KICK BAMA KICK fucked around with this message at 00:27 on Jan 3, 2020 |
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Gripweed posted:There's a running gag about Felix not being allowed to tell "the truth about Syria". It's never been explained what the truth is, but it's implied that Felix's take would be so incendiary as to get them all cancelled immediately the implication is that the Lion Assad is good, which is something i don't necessarily agree with, but if any of us were in Assad's position, could we have done a better job?
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Also ties in with Felix being censored by Pod Save America during his guest appearance early on, back when all of the boys were a bit more collegial with some of those people
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The curse of the lion is real
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What do you think Felix's next weird fixation is going to be. I feel like with the popularity of the netflix show he's going to get deep into Witcher lore and compare Joe Biden to Gaunter O'Dimm or something
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Seams posted:The curse of the lion is real it's impossible to argue with the evidence
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Chexoid posted:What do you think Felix's next weird fixation is going to be. I feel like with the popularity of the netflix show he's going to get deep into Witcher lore and compare Joe Biden to Gaunter O'Dimm or something somebody tell him the guy who did Evangelion is doing an Ultraman movie, maybe we can get him into Ultraman and other classic Tokusatsu
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Why even bother trying to work back and reason out why people would be mad at Chapo online. Watch contrapoints' most recent video, once you hit a certain level of notoriety theres a group of people that need less than 0 reason to be mad at you
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terrorist ambulance posted:Why even bother trying to work back and reason out why people would be mad at Chapo online. Watch contrapoints' most recent video, once you hit a certain level of notoriety theres a group of people that need less than 0 reason to be mad at you I didn't realize she was even still making videos after what happened. Let me just check on what the topic ohhhhh
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Chexoid posted:What do you think Felix's next weird fixation is going to be. I feel like with the popularity of the netflix show he's going to get deep into Witcher lore and compare Joe Biden to Gaunter O'Dimm or something Anime leftist. One of the most powerful classes.
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his avatar would naturally be Felix Argyle Salafism Nya~
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terrorist ambulance posted:Why even bother trying to work back and reason out why people would be mad at Chapo online. Watch contrapoints' most recent video, once you hit a certain level of notoriety theres a group of people that need less than 0 reason to be mad at you it really does own how this dumb gently caress having the trans equivalent of uncle ruckus on her show earned her a bunch of weeping sycophants always crying that she was unjustly canceled for having the guy who outs other trans people and hangs out with transphobes saying the most cringe-worthy bootlicking poo poo like "i'm a good boy, i'm a good trans and those people are evil" on her show this is like the online lefty version of that stupid poo poo all those ellen fans tried to do to justify her hanging out with george bush, i swear to god
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she'll transition and leave the podcast to start her new project bi felicia
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SunAndSpring posted:
Hahahahaha No joke looking forward to seeing your raging tweet under an anime avatar in the next video
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terrorist ambulance posted:Hahahahaha What is with the strange men in this very thread imagining that all their foes have anime avatars? The last avatar I had was a very nice portrait drawn by the guy who did the art for some Duran Duran albums, and I deleted my Twitter because it wasn't very enjoyable. Anyway, come on, you can do better than this. Some other guy here called me a pedophile for saying Epstein poo poo was boring, this is nothing.
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Is there any famous trans person that isn't on the poo poo list?
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I was all ready to engage in the bad trans arguments but I literally just found out we went to war w Iran via felix tweets https://twitter.com/ByYourLogic/status/1212908356794486786?s=19 https://twitter.com/ByYourLogic/status/1212909095889592320?s=19 Seems bad imo
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Dmitri-9 posted:Is there any famous trans person that isn't on the poo poo list? Yes but none of them make videos about socialism and therefore no one cares because they instead talk about poo poo for icky girls like makeup and their feelings. edit: I did forget about trans men and nonbinary people but for the former the only one I know of is some teenage boy with the name Coltyn or some poo poo who gets made at nonbinary people for faking it, and for the latter, I dunno, there's a few people like but they got like 7k subs so eh SunAndSpring fucked around with this message at 02:53 on Jan 3, 2020 |
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Dmitri-9 posted:Is there any famous trans person that isn't on the poo poo list? is daniel lavery fine?
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maybe we can preempt climate change by bringing on nuclear winter.
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uber_stoat posted:maybe we can preempt climate change by bringing on nuclear winter. This is what I've been saying! Let the smoke from the nuclear explosions give us Another Year Without A Summer. Give the arctics a chance to refreeze.
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SunAndSpring posted:it really does own how this dumb gently caress having the trans equivalent of uncle ruckus on her show earned her a bunch of weeping sycophants always crying that she was unjustly canceled for having the guy who outs other trans people and hangs out with transphobes saying the most cringe-worthy bootlicking poo poo like "i'm a good boy, i'm a good trans and those people are evil" on her show She claims that "having the trans equivalent of uncle ruckus on her show" was a 10 sec clip of him reading a John Waters quote because he can do a good impression of him and that was it. If that's true it's definitely not the same as Ellen chilling with George Bush
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I enjoyed Matt's guest spot on Contrarian Court. He has a lot of good insights, though he should let go of the idea that directors are conspiring against him.
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uber_stoat posted:maybe we can preempt climate change by bringing on nuclear winter. This doesn't actually work
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