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It's an example of a long-used garbage part to point out that longevity is not a great indicator. Every company has done stupid things. I'm not saying FCA=Toyota ffs.
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Tho the fact its been used for so long without revision and you dont generally hear of them failing (mines from running the engine so hot for so long the oil broke down and overheated after i clogged the cooling system solid with mud) probably means that while they're a poo poo design from an aerospace perspective they're perfectly fine for an automotive application. Whats properly stupid bout it that on the 100 series, they installed an electronically boosted brake accumulator, so you dont need vacuum for brake boosting. So literally the only thing that vacuum pump does on the AU delivered HDJ100 landcruisers is run the EGR valve...
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 (I know nothing about this. Found on imgur.)
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Cojawfee posted:There is no way any of that is useful besides maybe an unburnt body panel. The structural steel is definitely weakened from the fire. Vette fuel can't melt steel frames.
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dpack_1 posted:Vette fuel can't melt steel frames.
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bolind posted:
so its a wooden beam, sitting on two ladders, which are sitting on blocks, which are sitting on PROPANE TANKS?? Jesus gently caress I thought my jerryrigging was insane
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I think what ultimately amused me about that picture are the ladders and the load rating while holding up probably close to 800-1000 lbs between them.
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C-Bangin' it 
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Colostomy Bag posted:I think what ultimately amused me about that picture are the ladders and the load rating while holding up probably close to 800-1000 lbs between them. Consensus is it’s a Nissan TD or TB engine. With box either of those are north of 600kg and the TD asssmbly is closer to 800kg so... 1300-1700lb
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And it isn't even going to fit in that Toyota!!
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tactlessbastard posted:And it isn't even going to fit in that Toyota!! Not with that attitude, anyway
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UCS Hellmaker posted:so its a wooden beam, sitting on two ladders, which are sitting on blocks, which are sitting on PROPANE TANKS?? Jesus gently caress I thought my jerryrigging was insane The wooden beam looks like a 2x6 or 2x8...sitting on the narrow edge.
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Godholio posted:The wooden beam looks like a 2x6 or 2x8...sitting on the narrow edge. That's how you want it to be, to hold the most weight without flexing. However, it needs to be blocked to keep from rotating. If it flips, your static load becomes dynamic and imparts an additional impact load just as the beam goes from strong to weak (or falls off the piers entirely)
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The ladders and everything above seems actually reasonable to me. The ladders might be slightly overloaded depending on spec, but design safety should still cover that.
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SEKCobra posted:The ladders and everything above seems actually reasonable to me. The ladders might be slightly overloaded depending on spec, but design safety should still cover that. Those fibreglass electricians ladders are rated to 150kg MAX each here in aus. So your still half a tonne over. I used a ladder to lift the block of my engine out of the back of the Ute but it was a 150kg rated ladder and a 115kg engine block!
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NoWake posted:That's how you want it to be, to hold the most weight without flexing. Yeah my point was that it's freestanding like that. Also, it's definitely flexing.
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Ferremit posted:Those fibreglass electricians ladders are rated to 150kg MAX each here in aus. So your still half a tonne over. Oh those locked like metal, I would have assumed 200 kg rating, meaning 300kg at least per spec (probably 600) and then doubled up so should be just about enough
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TBF though those ladders are likely rated for 250 Lbs each, and UL requires (AFAIK) these things to sustain four times the rated load to be certified. The ladders are not the (main) problem it's the janky setup between lots of movable pieces and the aforementioned likelihood of the lumber twisting.
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Are ladders rated for “gingerly set a load on the top” or “fat ape swinging a sledge clambers up it”? Or is it the former at a factor of safety of four to account for the latter?
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Of course the various blocks have their holes pointing sideways. WEBS GO VERTICAL YOU FUCKS! 
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Platystemon posted:Are ladders rated for “gingerly set a load on the top” or “fat ape swinging a sledge clambers up it”? Usually you have a rated load and you have to be able to sustain 3-4 times that depending on the standard statically, which accounts for dynamic loads as well. Depending on the spec, some even higher peak loads will be specified.
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Fender Anarchist posted:Of course the various blocks have their holes pointing sideways. WEBS GO VERTICAL YOU FUCKS! But the more concrete facing up, the stronger it is, rite?
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Horrible ownership failures count as well, right?
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Whatever man. I don't see no leaks. 
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Probably even added a little extra capacity.
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Memento posted:Horrible ownership failures count as well, right? Was it leaking?
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I vote that a Horrible Mechanical Success.
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Seat Safety Switch posted:Probably even added a little extra capacity. Now I'm wondering how long those bolts are
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Sheet metal and RTV: cool & good Bolts: hold the gently caress up
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Platystemon posted:Sheet metal and RTV: cool & good *pulls out pop-riveter*
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It makes the oil pan more rigid, which makes the block more rigid, which makes the chassis more rigid, which makes the car handle better. Why you guys hating?
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That's honestly perfectly serviceable, nice big bolts and nice thick sheet metal, bolting circle could be a little more even, but it looks like the spacing is ok.
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But if you're patching a hole, drill six more holes?
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Drill 8 more holes, you need to stress-relieve the ends of the crack.
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Wait, what grade bolt did he use?
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Ooh, I can play this game! I took a shelf off an old newsstand, and lacking shears, "bend-cut" it to size, hammered it to shape on my driveway, and glued it on with JBWeld. Didn't leak a drop for years. Was quite pleased with myself 
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bolind posted:
What the ladders or board is rated at is my least concern. What concerns me is that an errant bump, or hell a gust of wind, could knock over this lump of random poo poo unconnected by anything but friction and gravity and leave an expensive piece of what is now scrap on the floor. And maybe slam a propane bottle into something sharp and cause what might be described as "fun and excitement".
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Queen Combat posted:But if you're patching a hole, drill six more holes? Actually, yes, although quite a few more smaller holes filled with rivets would probably be better, and you could also just get a new oil pan for both less cost and effort than trying to patch it anyways
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Beach Bum posted:Ooh, I can play this game! If it's horrible but it works, is it horrible? EvenWorseOpinions posted:Actually, yes, although quite a few more smaller holes filled with rivets would probably be better, and you could also just get a new oil pan for both less cost and effort than trying to patch it anyways That's my line of thought. Did they drill and tap the aluminum pan, or did they remove the oil pan to use nuts inside? Of course I know the answer, in my heart
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Darchangel posted:If it's horrible but it works, is it horrible?
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