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toggle posted:is chewie desexed? chewie fucks
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toggle posted:is chewie desexed? All Wookies are spayed/neutered on their 500th Life Day
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Jan 3, 2020 01:24
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Owlbear Camus posted:It's almost impressive that my opinion of TFA was "It's fine, whatever, it had potential, the characters are good" and TLJ was "It's got some deep flaws but it definitely shook things up for the third act and I liked some of the risks it took" and then they managed to drop a third film that made both of them much worse by existing. yet remarkably, somehow rise is the best of the three
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Jan 3, 2020 01:27
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poor chewies Would be cool if he had a cloaca 👌
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Jan 3, 2020 01:28
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What the gently caress is this bullshit about ghost colors? It's not like Luke is Chinese.
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Jan 3, 2020 02:41
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Its people grasping at straws for why things got cut but if true Im fuckin dying because Star Wars the Last Jedi pulled in like 20 million total in China so making any changes for that market was a waste of time.
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Jan 3, 2020 03:32
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Disney will not be satisfied until all the money in the world belongs to it, and they find China's lack of fanaticism for Star Wars disturbing.
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Jan 3, 2020 03:34
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Disney should make good movies, that might help
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Jan 3, 2020 03:36
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Bogus Adventure posted:Some dickhead on Reddit posted the following: "Oh you see, JJ (despite his entire body of work indicating the opposite) is not in fact a hack writer."
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Jan 3, 2020 03:55
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maybe communist china just isnt interested in stories about rebelling against an oppressive totalitarian regime
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Jan 3, 2020 04:01
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Barudak posted:Disney should make good movies, that might help Why make good movies when you can buy out all the other studios until the public has nowhere else to turn to?
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Jan 3, 2020 04:23
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Rutibex posted:maybe communist china just isnt interested in stories about rebelling against an oppressive totalitarian regime Listen here bud, if only 1% of China's 2.7 Quadrillion movie-goers buys a ticket to Rise of Skywalker. . . I think you get my point.
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Jan 3, 2020 05:17
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Bogus Adventure posted:Some dickhead on Reddit posted the following: I believe all of this is true because TFA especially and TLJ too are confirmed to be hacked up and edited to hell by Disney executives. Along with the mandated yearly Star Wars movie releases, the insane micromanaging by Disney is one of the many crippling problems with the ST. Most of J.J. Abrams concepts for RoS sound just as stupid as the released theatrical cut we got though. Really, the problem with the movie is Disney didn't give Abrams and Chris Terrio like 1-2 years longer to hash out a coherent script that doesn't totally suck balls after Colin Trevorrow was booted off the project. Of course RoS blows after they have hired Abrams back and gave him 5 minutes to make a huge complicated ending to their trilogy.
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Jan 3, 2020 05:37
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The whole "china" narrative doesn't make sense to me because MCU was bantery as gently caress in a way that I wouldn't think would be translatable but it sold like hot cakes. The lack of nostalgia in China for a nostalgia based franchise is something I get. But like iron man wasn't a big part of my childhood but I knew who he was, presumably in a way that Xuan from Wuhan didn't. But we both saw the iron man movie. It's easy to blame China but I feel there are more sinister forces at work here. Things some people .ight consider unnatural.
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Jan 3, 2020 06:40
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Shbobdb posted:The whole "china" narrative doesn't make sense to me because MCU was bantery as gently caress in a way that I wouldn't think would be translatable but it sold like hot cakes. Chinese audiences (like most) like big spectacles with attractive people doing outlandish things. The MCU translates well into the kinds of stories they know because they're all just "hero's journey" in one form or another, and once you get them hooked, they're going to keep coming until you finish. The Transformers movies did well because they grew up watching Transformers. The MCU stuff was not unknown in China 20-30 years ago. My wife (from China) grew up watching the X-men cartoon, Transformers, He-Man, She-Ra, Smurfs, Thunder Cats, etc, so the superhero movie/show is well known and accessible. Star Wars for some reason never caught on. The movies were too alien (literally, they don't like weird aliens that much) and they never had that much exposure since they came out 10 years too early to be shown on Chinese television. Terminator on the other hand was widely shown on CCTV, as were lot of Stallone/Arnold action movies.
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Jan 3, 2020 07:49
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I wonder if they’ll like Mando since it has Dillon
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Jan 3, 2020 08:01
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Cough Drop The Beat posted:I believe all of this is true because TFA especially and TLJ too are confirmed to be hacked up and edited to hell by Disney executives. Along with the mandated yearly Star Wars movie releases, the insane micromanaging by Disney is one of the many crippling problems with the ST. Most of J.J. Abrams concepts for RoS sound just as stupid as the released theatrical cut we got though. Really, the problem with the movie is Disney didn't give Abrams and Chris Terrio like 1-2 years longer to hash out a coherent script that doesn't totally suck balls after Colin Trevorrow was booted off the project. Of course RoS blows after they have hired Abrams back and gave him 5 minutes to make a huge complicated ending to their trilogy. The movie is exactly like a regular JJ movie so chances are most of it was JJ. That reddit text reads like some diehard JJ fan trying to save JJ's face
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Jan 3, 2020 08:02
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"No nostalgia" = "no money" is a formula I get. Like, Lucas invented the Campbell on screen thing so what I'm asking is why is the go to narrative "disney cant make a good movie because china"? Like we can argue about whether the marvel movies are good-- like most goons I got tired and checked out after civil war (feel free to insert the marvel film where you stopped caring here. Based on box office it seems to be the last big one, infinity war endgame or whatever). But they sold big in a way SW hasn't. Why can MCU be "good" despite china (while making money hand over fist there) but SW cant be good because China (and SW was never going to make money there)?
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Jan 3, 2020 08:03
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Barudak posted:Disney should make good movies, that might help lol, watch out. you'll get pulled into a consulting job for them then your life will be over all getting paid 7 figures to go to meetings and be like "if a movie is good... then people will like it. and we can save money on the internet campaigns spinning disliking it as actually a political statement"
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Jan 3, 2020 08:17
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Something to keep in mind is the new Star Wars films are loving confusing as hell if youve not seen the previous ones. Theyre full of things that only make sense or are only cool if you are familiar with the old ones and for what turned out to be fairly middling films at best, why make that investment?Vim Fuego posted:lol, watch out. you'll get pulled into a consulting job for them then your life will be over Dont worry Im already on this hellride because, starting this year Disney is one of my clients at work.
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Jan 3, 2020 09:01
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Shbobdb posted:The whole "china" narrative doesn't make sense to me because MCU was bantery as gently caress in a way that I wouldn't think would be translatable but it sold like hot cakes. You know how in cartoons they just make the mouth open and close and so you can make them say anything? With computers nowadays they can do that with live action people's mouths.
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Jan 3, 2020 09:34
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SHISHKABOB posted:You know how in cartoons they just make the mouth open and close and so you can make them say anything? With computers nowadays they can do that with live action people's mouths. Having lived in other cultures and other languages, humor is the last thing that translates. So unless you've got a crack team making localized jokes...
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Jan 3, 2020 09:48
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Fartbox posted:The movie is exactly like a regular JJ movie so chances are most of it was JJ. That reddit text reads like some diehard JJ fan trying to save JJ's face It's pretty amazing how JJ has managed to taint the Canon of the two largest sci-fi franchises of all time.
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Jan 3, 2020 10:01
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Fartbox posted:The movie is exactly like a regular JJ movie so chances are most of it was JJ. That reddit text reads like some diehard JJ fan trying to save JJ's face It's pretty funny how anonymous, behind the scenes drama leaks are like a new genre of fan fiction.
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Jan 3, 2020 10:09
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TK-42-1 posted:I wonder if they’ll like Mando since it has Dillon That son of a bitch.
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Jan 3, 2020 10:13
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Shbobdb posted:Having lived in other cultures and other languages, humor is the last thing that translates. So unless you've got a crack team making localized jokes... I saw the first Avengers movie in Taiwan. There's a line about flying monkeys at some point and Captain America comments that he actually got that reference. It got a chuckle out of me but the rest of the theatre was totally silent. I asked my wife how they translated that into Mandarin and she said they didn't bother.
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Jan 3, 2020 10:18
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SidneyIsTheKiller posted:(11) Rey really should've gotten a hand cut off at some point. since they went dumb as poo poo anyway, Rey should have been a clone made from Luke's severed hand, or a robot who gets luke's hand attached
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Jan 3, 2020 12:03
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Rey should have lost her hand and attached lukes hand to her body so she can be a true Skywalker
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Jan 3, 2020 12:11
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It could be worse. Whedon could have directed.
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Jan 3, 2020 14:29
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Barudak posted:Rey should have lost her hand and attached lukes hand to her body so she can be a true Skywalker is lukes robot hand still sitting there on that rock? i know his cloak is established to still be there but i don't remember seeing his robot hand
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Jan 3, 2020 14:40
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SHISHKABOB posted:You know how in cartoons they just make the mouth open and close and so you can make them say anything? With computers nowadays they can do that with live action people's mouths. Or just have the character talk when they’re facing away in a dialogue. I saw some lovely show recently where you never see anyone’s mouth move because they’re always the opposing person in a conversation.
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Jan 3, 2020 14:54
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Atlas Hugged posted:I saw the first Avengers movie in Taiwan. There's a line about flying monkeys at some point and Captain America comments that he actually got that reference. It got a chuckle out of me but the rest of the theatre was totally silent. I asked my wife how they translated that into Mandarin and she said they didn't bother. I want to see the bahasa dub where the audience thinks it is about hanuman.
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Jan 3, 2020 14:54
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Rey should have found Luke's mummified other hand and worn in around her neck until the fateful moment when Luke's ghost possesses it and throttles / force pushes 'Pal
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Jan 3, 2020 15:25
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Blistex posted:It's pretty amazing how JJ has managed to taint the Canon of the two largest sci-fi franchises of all time. So do directors pretty much tell the writers what to write? I thought it was a separate team that writes the plot, and the director makes the movie happen.
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Jan 3, 2020 16:06
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Incursus posted:So do directors pretty much tell the writers what to write? I thought it was a separate team that writes the plot, and the director makes the movie happen. JJ was co-writer on Star Wars and Star Trek, but even if the director isn’t writing a single word their interpretation of the script is what we wind up seeing. A well written script can wind up being a poo poo movie and vice versa.
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Jan 3, 2020 16:31
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Incursus posted:So do directors pretty much tell the writers what to write? I thought it was a separate team that writes the plot, and the director makes the movie happen. "Legendary" film maker JJ Abrams is what they call writer-director. On his films he has an involvement in the writing that most directors don't. Blistex posted:It's pretty amazing how JJ has managed to taint the Canon of the two largest sci-fi franchises of all time. Star Wars, yeah he hosed it up. But I don't really blame him for Star Trek because it was already well down the path of making of itself ridiculous before he got there. Plus, his films even started with the "it's a time traveled parallel universe!!!" thing for plausible deniability, so the franchise could easily detach from them at any time.
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Jan 3, 2020 16:37
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Blistex posted:It's pretty amazing how JJ has managed to taint the Canon of the two largest sci-fi franchises of all time. Next stop, Babylon 5!
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Jan 3, 2020 17:19
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Chomp8645 posted:Star Wars, yeah he hosed it up. But I don't really blame him for Star Trek because it was already well down the path of making of itself ridiculous before he got there. Didn't the director they brought on for Star Trek 12 have to have it explained to him that Geordi wasn't some kind of alien?
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Jan 3, 2020 17:33
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Incursus posted:So do directors pretty much tell the writers what to write? I thought it was a separate team that writes the plot, and the director makes the movie happen. This is a really complicated issue so here's too many sausage metaphors. Producer (or more indirectly, a Studio) - "Here's $20, go get me some sausage. It better be a kielbasa, none of that Pepperidge Farm poo poo, I want Polish deli." Writer - "Sam wants Kielbasa, so picture this. A German spread, we've got Kielbasa and spaetzle, some kraut, end it with some schnapps." Director - "I only use the best cuts of pork, which are trotters and offal." Director of Photography - "My seasoning blend has won me fifteen blue ribbons. People can spot my sausage in a taste test." Editor - "Oh my god what what are these lovely cuts of meat? Going to be working late tonight. Can we ask the director for a little beef fat to fix the flavor?" Marketing - "Hot dogs are so hot this season. What if we package these as German Hot Dogs?" ...Directors often go back and forth with the writers, just like you'd negotiate the shopping list depending on what you want to eat. The final meal might be exactly the recipe the writer wrote down, it could be entirely what the director wanted, or the DP and the editor could have turned it into an avant-garde statement on consumerism. happyhippy posted:Next stop, Babylon 5! You shut your whore mouth.
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Blistex posted:
Oh I fuckin wonder why 
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