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I like that the most about her, she uses her intelligence since she doesn’t have the strength the others do.
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Aginor's "I never cared for this fighting stuff, all I wanted to do was experiments, why the hell do I have to go fight oops I died" was pretty funny too
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Jan 4, 2020 01:32
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Moghedien is one of my favorites because of her constant cowardness as a stark contrast to brave Nynaeve who thought she was a coward
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Jan 4, 2020 01:39
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JOHN SKELETON posted:I think with a limited budget the way to go with a lot of the magic stuff and especially EotW ending would be getting all artsy / trippy with it. Intense disorientating sound effects, simple visual metaphors like drowning, being hit by waves, angelic choruses, walls of fire, etc, and intentionally editing it so that it all seems to happen out of nowhere and that the real world seems insignificant when all this One Power poo poo is happening. It could lead to some interesting reveals too. I know the scene where Brigitte tricks Mat could be done well, but having scenes where some of the characters have no idea that a man was channeling near them might be fun to watch. Done properly it could lead to some really interesting foreshadowing. Also, it was a pretty fun thing to read when an Asha'man shows up at the rebel camp and goes "There's a man channeling here who's not me" and everyone freaks out.
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Jan 4, 2020 01:56
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Oh they are so going to use the "nimbus of light surrounding women who are holding the source" thing. Because then they'll be able to put some menacing aura-that-isn't-actually-visible around saidin wielders.
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Jan 4, 2020 02:08
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silvergoose posted:Because then they'll be able to put some menacing aura-that-isn't-actually-visible around True Power wielders.
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Jan 4, 2020 02:23
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Invalid Validation posted:I like that the most about her, she uses her intelligence since she doesn’t have the strength the others do. That's what she tells herself. Her duel with Nynaeve in TSR is telling - when Nynaeve thinks she's losing, she finds another way to gain an edge. When Moghedien thinks she's losing, she immediately tries to run. Hell, look at Shadar Logoth - she just stands and watches.
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Jan 4, 2020 02:46
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Well yea I guess o should say knowledge, not intelligence.
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Jan 4, 2020 02:52
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bloom posted:Thinking that "the primitives" couldn't possibly come up with anything new was like the main weakness all the forsaken had. That and constant infighting. Early on in the series, some forsaken, I think Graendal? Thinks to herself that “we are certainly something more than human, you cant call us people” or some such. which is funny since the Forsaken are chosen for traits such as selfishness, pettiness and jealousy. They are the MOST Human and possess all Man’s failings Except ishamael towards the end of his first run, I guess. Loved reading the other chosen think “That dude was on some other poo poo.”
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Jan 4, 2020 03:20
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silvergoose posted:Oh they are so going to use the "nimbus of light surrounding women who are holding the source" thing. Your TV doesn't have a Red/Green/Blue/Octarine display?
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Jan 4, 2020 03:43
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That’s their thing, though. The guide goes even further to say that the shadow in the AOL could have always conquered the light, but they would always attack each other instead. The dark one feeds in treachery itself, not meritocracy.
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Jan 4, 2020 13:57
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Not to mention what Rand learned in AMOL. He's called the Father of Lies for a reason.
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seaborgium posted:It could lead to some interesting reveals too. I know the scene where Brigitte tricks Mat could be done well That scene is great too, because in it (and one or two other places with Mat) you can tell the instant they switch to speaking the old tongue because the word choice and rhythm and such Mat and Birgitte use change. If Mat ever says "Burn my bones to ash!" rather than "Burn me!" he's speaking the old tongue.
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seaborgium posted:I know the scene where Brigitte tricks Mat could be done well, seaborgium posted:Also, it was a pretty fun thing to read when an Asha'man shows up at the rebel camp and goes "There's a man channeling here who's not me" and everyone freaks out.
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Vavrek posted:Uh, remind me. I'm not able to hold all of WoT in my head at once and it's been a while. Even just a chapter reference would be enough, so I could look it up. Yeah I'm also not sure which trick Birgitte pulled on Mat that would involve glowing with the Power. Rohan Kishibe is obviously referring to the scene in the bar across from the Tarasin Palace, though.
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Jan 4, 2020 21:13
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The scene they're talking about is when Brigette tricks Mat into speaking the Old Tongue when he's trying to claim he doesn't speak it and you have the reveal to the audience because the scene is in Mat's perspective and he doesn't even realize he shifted i to speaking it.
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Jan 4, 2020 21:26
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It's the chapter Swovan Night in The Crown of Swords, and it's one of my all time favorite chapters in WoT. It's the chapter where Mat realizes that Birgitte is really the Birgitte, where she tricks him into revealing he speaks the Old Tongue, and where they seal a kind of mutual pact of secrecy. "What language do we speak, Hornsounder?" is a truly great moment. And Elayne and Nynaeve get some long overdue pushback for treating Mat like an infant.
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Who was Ishemael's ressurection body, Moridin or Shadar Haran?
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Soonmot posted:Who was Ishemael's ressurection body, Moridin or Shadar Haran? I thought it was clearly Moridin. Is Shadar Haran really a theory people have?
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Jan 5, 2020 00:42
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Definitely moridin. Shaidar Haran is the dark one's touch, as much as shaitan is able to do.
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Soonmot posted:Who was Ishemael's ressurection body, Moridin or Shadar Haran? It's Moridin, he pulls Rand into a dream shard in ToM/AMoL (either the end of ToM or start of AMoL) and it's explicitly stated. They have a conversation about it and everything. Pleads fucked around with this message at 01:42 on Jan 5, 2020 |
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Torrannor posted:It's the chapter Swovan Night in The Crown of Swords, and it's one of my all time favorite chapters in WoT. It's the chapter where Mat realizes that Birgitte is really the Birgitte, where she tricks him into revealing he speaks the Old Tongue, and where they seal a kind of mutual pact of secrecy. "What language do we speak, Hornsounder?" is a truly great moment. And Elayne and Nynaeve get some long overdue pushback for treating Mat like an infant. Oh yeah, that's a great chapter Pleads posted:It's Moridin, he pulls Rand into a dream shard in ToM/AMoL (either the end of ToM or start of AMoL) and it's explicitly stated. They have a conversation about it and everything. That was a great scene too. None of the usual scenery chewing and trying to intimidate each other like in previous dream meetings, it's just Rand and Moridin sick of all the poo poo going on.
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bloom posted:Thinking that "the primitives" couldn't possibly come up with anything new was like the main weakness all the forsaken had. That and constant infighting. A major weakness that a lot of them had is that they hated Lews Therin so much that all of their plans were designed around them personally showing Lews Therin up and rubbing his face in it. That's the cause of a lot of the infighting; they hated Lews Therin so much that they'd sabotage anybody else who might have a chance of success so that they could be the one to beat him. They ignored Rand al'Thor entirely, for the most part. They didn't want to beat the Dragon Reborn, they wanted to beat the Dragon himself.
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Khizan posted:A major weakness that a lot of them had is that they hated Lews Therin so much That the flames. Flames. Flames ... at the side of their face. Heaving breaths, heaving — breathing, breath — heavi- channeling
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To be fair, Lews Therin comes off as a smug rear end in a top hat that a lot of people hated for good reason.
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I don't think I'd paid close enough attention to Mat's sentence structure there before.quote:“Elayne and Nynaeve know and kept it from me, true? I weary of secrets, Birgitte, and they harbor secrets as a grain barn harbors rats. They’ve become Aes Sedai, eyes and hearts. Even Nynaeve is twice a stranger, now.” edit: Like if you showed me that without saying what scene it was from, I'd be unsure who was saying it. If you blanked out the character names, I probably wouldn't be able to guess. But it's all just syntax and idiom shifting.
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rndmnmbr posted:To be fair, Lews Therin comes off as a smug rear end in a top hat that a lot of people hated for good reason. well, he isn't called Lews Therin Coolbuddy
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Johnny Joestar posted:well, he isn't called Lews Therin Coolbuddy It's explicitly stated that if he had done literally anything except rub his fractional superiority in Demandred's face on a constant and ongoing basis, Demandred wouldn't have gone to the Shadow. One gesture of friendship or respect might have denied the Dark One it's most effective Forsaken. But no, Lews Therin had to be a colossal dick at every opportunity.
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Data Graham posted:That the flames. Flames. Flames ... at the side of their face. Heaving breaths, heaving — breathing, breath — heavi- channeling 
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Data Graham posted:That the flames. Flames. Flames ... at the side of their face. Heaving breaths, heaving — breathing, breath — heavi- channeling I feel like that's exactly how Sammael feels like, all the time
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Johnny Joestar posted:well, he isn't called Lews Therin Coolbuddy lol
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rndmnmbr posted:It's explicitly stated that if he had done literally anything except rub his fractional superiority in Demandred's face on a constant and ongoing basis, Demandred wouldn't have gone to the Shadow. One gesture of friendship or respect might have denied the Dark One it's most effective Forsaken. But no, Lews Therin had to be a colossal dick at every opportunity. To be completely fair, Demandred could have just been like yo you're a giant dick and, idk, not turned to the Shadow and wiped out god knows how many
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:To be completely fair, Demandred could have just been like yo you're a giant dick and, idk, not turned to the Shadow and wiped out god knows how many No
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Was it ever explained why the Aes Sedai didn't join Lews in sealing up the tear all those years ago? Or did they and I am just forgetting it.
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Jan 7, 2020 15:38
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TheShadowAvatar posted:Was it ever explained why the Aes Sedai didn't join Lews in sealing up the tear all those years ago? Or did they and I am just forgetting it. The female Aes Sedai favored using the Choedan Kal (huge Sa'angreal statues) to erect a barrier around Shayol Ghul until a more permanent solution could be found, and found the plan by LTT and the male Aes Sedai too dangerous. Too bad the forces of the Shadow overran the locations where the access key ter'angreal were hidden, without which the Choedan Kal couldn't be used.
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TheShadowAvatar posted:Was it ever explained why the Aes Sedai didn't join Lews in sealing up the tear all those years ago? Or did they and I am just forgetting it. There's a short story (written in world) that was included in the illustrated guide from 1997. You can read it here, it gives more context to what was going on during the War of Power. https://library.tarvalon.net/index.php?title=The_Strike_at_Shayol_Ghul
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TheShadowAvatar posted:Was it ever explained why the Aes Sedai didn't join Lews in sealing up the tear all those years ago? Or did they and I am just forgetting it. rndmnmbr posted:To be fair, Lews Therin comes off as a smug rear end in a top hat that a lot of people hated for good reason.
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Lewis Therin was too mean to me, now I have to join the
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Slowpoke Rodriguez posted:Lewis Therin was too mean to me, now I have to join the I mean yeah most of the forsaken are super fuckin fragile. "I didn't get tenure, so I decided the world should burn" "They didn't like how I deliberately did some medical malpractice, so I decided the world should burn"
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