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LabyaMynora posted:I can't believe there are Vikings fans who want to fire Zimmer. Firing Zimmer isn't going to improve the Vikings and will likely make them worse. Case "Flash in the Pan" Keenum disagrees. 
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A Challenge: Jason Garrett is the 54th winningest coach in NFL history, with 87 wins. He has a thoroughly pedestrian w/l% BUT will any new coach hired this year reach 87 wins, combined? For one team?
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DeimosRising posted:A Challenge: LaFleur has a chance depending on how long Rodgers lasts.
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DeimosRising posted:A Challenge: Kingsbury might last. He certainly outperformed expectations Bruce Arians if he doesn't has some kind of cardiovascular situation first.
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Doesn't dragging out the Garrett situation at minimum hurt Garrett because other coaching position might fill will he's sitting around in limbo? Not that I'd think he'd be a hot property.
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Jason Garrett has a better career winning percentage than Ron Rivera. Ron Rivera has only ever had 3 winning seasons, while the only losing season Garrett has had was the year Tony Romo died. Even that year they were 3-1 with a healthy Romo. Somebody is backing up a dump truck full of cash for him should the Cowboys not keep him.
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It should be the browns. 8-8 floor is the kind of mediocrity they dream of
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DeimosRising posted:will any new coach hired this year reach 87 wins, combined? For one team? I think there's about zero chance of this actually happening, but if Lincoln Riley makes the jump and Jerry (and Stephen after Jerry dies) loves him as much as he did Garrett he'll make it easily. Riley is 35 years old or something close to that.
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Simplex posted:Jason Garrett has a better career winning percentage than Ron Rivera. Ron Rivera has only ever had 3 winning seasons, while the only losing season Garrett has had was the year Tony Romo died. Even that year they were 3-1 with a healthy Romo. Somebody is backing up a dump truck full of cash for him should the Cowboys not keep him. No they aren't. Garrett is a less successful Marvin Lewis and Marv is still unemployed.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:No they aren't. Garrett is a less successful Marvin Lewis and Marv is still unemployed. How is he a less successful Marvin Lewis?
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I'll go out on a limb and say Marvin Lewis was a much better coach than Garrett, but operated in an even worse ownership/"GM" situation. Garrett looks better on paper in terms of win % and playoff record, but contributed less to the team's wins than Lewis did. Garrett was never anything but a huge nothing whose biggest claim to fame was not having his team just completely quit trying. And his clapping.
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Marvin Lewis was very good.
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Put Marvin Lewis into the Hall of Very Good.
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The NFL probably told Jones to stfu about it until Monday at this point. They probably are not happy it has bled into the playoffs as it is.
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pasaluki posted:The NFL probably told Jones to stfu about it until Monday at this point. The direction of who tells who what to do goes in the opposite direction in that relationship.
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:The direction of who tells who what to do goes in the opposite direction in that relationship. Jones went after Goodell hard and failed so I doubt he has nearly as much leverage as he used to.
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Fat Mike to Dallas is *extremely* lol
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freddy kitchens so bad that he has scared teams away from hiring anyone other than retreads, despite most of this year's other first-time head coaches being fine
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Simplex posted:How is he a less successful Marvin Lewis? Garrett coached a more talented team in a much easier division and only made the playoffs 3 times.
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also while jerry is a lovely owner hes a lovely owner in the sense that hes a coddled billionaire dumbass who has failed upwards by way of stealing a ton of money constantly from everyone he can and thinks that means he knows how to make a winning football team mike brown is a lovely owner in the sense that he does not want to field a team at all but is forced to by league rules. marvin came in and turned a team just there to maximize mike browns revenue sharing into a semi competent team starting from absolutely 0 talent, no scouting department and no front office at all.
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PupsOfWar posted:freddy kitchens so bad that he has scared teams away from hiring anyone other than retreads, despite most of this year's other first-time head coaches being fine That one Cowboys DC has been quietly getting interviews I've noticed. If anything the reaction might be an influx of defense minded coaches.
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I think McCarthy and especially Marvin Lewis are good coaches. Lewis in particular is great at putting defensive players in the right place to excel and the Cowboys already have a ton of offensive talent that works pretty well so that’s really what they need
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Fat Mike interviewing everywhere to decide which place has the best/most amount of food Like when Andy Reid decided to coach KC because of the bbq
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What blew my mind was the New York ESPN radio guys this week talking about how much they want McCarthy for the Giants.
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Why? There's worse coaches to pair with your young QB. I might be talking myself into the unlikely eventuality that McCarthy becomes HC in Cleveland
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Fenrir posted:New York ESPN radio guys The three things I'd least want to listen to.
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Ghost Dog posted:also while jerry is a lovely owner hes a lovely owner in the sense that hes a coddled billionaire dumbass who has failed upwards by way of stealing a ton of money constantly from everyone he can and thinks that means he knows how to make a winning football team marvin lewis made the playoffs five years in a row (don’t look up the results) while playing in a division with the effective version of ben roethlisberger and the elite ravens helmed by one joe flacco it’s pretty impressive imo
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Ches Neckbeard posted:Why? There's worse coaches to pair with your young QB. Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:I spotted the problem.
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Declan MacManus posted:marvin lewis made the playoffs five years in a row (don’t look up the results) while playing in a division with the effective version of ben roethlisberger and the elite ravens helmed by one joe flacco meanwhile the nfc east is basically just 4 different franchises that are the browns but with national tv games
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Ghost Dog posted:meanwhile the nfc east is basically just 4 different franchises that are the browns but with national tv games NFC east more like NFC Least
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Ghost Dog posted:meanwhile the nfc east is basically just 4 different franchises that are the browns but with national tv games And enormous markets
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I think the Giants and Browns are good fits for Fat Mike, Carolina and Dallas not so much.Fenrir posted:I guess that's true but it's still a bit bizarre hearing anyone be that enthusiastic about a guy who went 13-18-1 in his last two seasons. While obviously McCarthy isn't the same type of coach or person, Reid was 12-20 his final two seasons with the Eagles. Also, wow, Reid has only had 3 losing seasons in his entire career, and missed the playoffs only six times out of 21 seasons. That's pretty crazy.
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Ghost Dog posted:i apologize to any nfc east readers for not mentioning their markets Apology accepted but also the nfc east can't be 4 browns since winning records are possible and at least 2 teams have won championships since the browns came back to life
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