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Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
Calanthe and her husband have a conversation in episode one that's pretty telling. He's got this whole romantic version of their betrothal and marriage, that he basically bothered her until she defrosted and gave in to his advances and blah blah. And even though it's clear that they love each other than there's a lot of passion in the marriage, she straight up shuts him down. She married him to save her kingdom and, you get the sense, because he was more controllable than other suitors. There's no way she'd ever agree to a Foltest type dude. (I think it's also interesting that, in her earlier scenes, Geralt seems to be more her type).

Also the first episode has Renfri talks about how unusual Calanthe is, being a female ruler, and how she's a trend setter.

More data points, I guess.

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That Italian Guy
Jul 25, 2012

We need the equivalent of the shrimp = small pastry avatar, but for ambulances and their mysteries now.

Strong Convections posted:

On the other hand Geralt tries to use his power to offer a woman whatever she wants so that she doesn't get herself killed. When she later rejects him, he doesn't try to curse her and turn her daughter into a striga, he let's her go.

We don't know the specifics but in the show at least, Geralt uses his last wish to bind Yennefer to himself or something like this, and her willingness about all of this is dubious at best.

That Italian Guy fucked around with this message at 13:37 on Jan 4, 2020

Roach Warehouse
Nov 1, 2010


Just finished this after watching it in a couple of days.

Everyone involved in the Law of Surprise ballroom blitz was rad.

Also, Borch Three Jackdaws is my favourite stupid name ever. It rules.

Strong Convections
May 8, 2008

That Italian Guy posted:

We don't know the specifics but in the show at least, Geralt uses his last wish to bind Yennefer to himself or something like this, without a clear line between her willingness into this.
As you said, we don't know the specifics - he at least believes that what they have is real and that what he did was save Yen's life. He doesn't believe she's bound to him, at least feelings-wise - he gets upset when he loses her.

Geralt doesn't see her as disposable - that he can walk away and use the wish for the child surprise because he's got power now to do what he wants. He doesn't go in and make a wish for her to stop, he offers the wish to Yen.
He didn't override or disregard what she wanted - it was never her intention to kill herself.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Geralt should have wished for more wishes. What an absolute dummy. Then he could have saved Yen and fallen asleep and had a fleet of blimps. Just really bungled that one he did.

Alkabob
May 31, 2011
I would like to speak to the manager about the socialists, please

Solice Kirsk posted:

Geralt should have wished for more wishes. What an absolute dummy. Then he could have saved Yen and fallen asleep and had a fleet of blimps. Just really bungled that one he did.

Considering that Djinns are notorious dicks when granting wishes I'm pleasantly surprised Geralt didn't rules lawyered to death from any of his wishes.

Quote-Unquote
Oct 22, 2002



Scooter_McCabe posted:

Considering that Djinns are notorious dicks when granting wishes I'm pleasantly surprised Geralt didn't rules lawyered to death from any of his wishes.

Well, Dandelion almost did

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2nr401xYTM

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Roach Warehouse posted:

Just finished this after watching it in a couple of days.

Everyone involved in the Law of Surprise ballroom blitz was rad.

Also, Borch Three Jackdaws is my favourite stupid name ever. It rules.

I like that Borch himself admits he's not very good with names in the book. He knows it's a stupid name but he had a hard time picking one he liked.

davidspackage
May 16, 2007

Nap Ghost

It's a shame there isn't a blooper roll out, cause I feel this would be perfect if it had the actor names accompanied by the characters uncharacteristically smiling at the camera.

itry
Aug 23, 2019




Arcsquad12 posted:

I like that Borch himself admits he's not very good with names in the book. He knows it's a stupid name but he had a hard time picking one he liked.

Just like Geralt! :v:

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
But we do know what a 90s witcher show would look like?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUH_zxC-LAQ

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




lol just lol if you haven't already watched the fan translation in which paragraphs of dialogue fly by in an instant

That show at least adapted A Shard of Ice I tell you what


it's bad tho

but also not terrible

but also bad

it changes a lot of geralt's past too

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
The Pavetta scene is better in the Polish version. I love when the guards open the door and immediately get bowled over the table by her magical vortex.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpReBawvuIU

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Arcsquad12 posted:

The Pavetta scene is better in the Polish version. I love when the guards open the door and immediately get bowled over the table by her magical vortex.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpReBawvuIU

The Polish show does so much right, but is also incredibly jank.

Mostly in a good way tho tbh

seance snacks
Mar 30, 2007

esperterra posted:

That show at least adapted A Shard of Ice I tell you what

I thought for sure they were going to do that story when I saw them start setting it up (Episode 7?)

Oh well, I guess they'll finish that one next season. Pretty par for the course with how much they've been jumping between stories and timelines

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




I imagine the timeline fuckery is done, prooobably. A Shard of Ice is an easy story to slot into one of the times the three are split up in the future if need be tho. They added all that Istredd/Yen history, so it would be a shame to cut that short story entirely.

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

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Arcsquad12 posted:

The Pavetta scene is better in the Polish version. I love when the guards open the door and immediately get bowled over the table by her magical vortex.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpReBawvuIU

This is amazing! :lol:

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

They could have avoided all of the Law of Surprise bullshit if Sir Hedgehog had just given Geralt an ale and called it even.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



WampaLord posted:

They could have avoided all of the Law of Surprise bullshit if Sir Hedgehog had just given Geralt an ale and called it even.

I'd love to hear how people try to get out of the Law of Surprise.

"Oh poo poo, honey you bought an extra loaf of bread today? I totally did not expect that. Quelle surprise."

Strong Convections
May 8, 2008
The whole Law of Surprise bullshit could have been avoided if Sir Hedgehog had accepted an ale and called it even. I'm sure there's tons of things a King would have that they didn't know.

:sanix: Oh, when I found out it was a child I was so shocked - I knew no woman would want to marry me - I really, really tried to stay away but I just had to meet her!
Dude, why did you thoughts immediately go to marrying her?
Hedgehog was clearly hoping for a child bride out of the whole thing.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




For anyone curious/wanting more Witcher content beyond the books and games whilst waiting for more of the Netflix show:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL83966CF606D760F4 there's probably a better playlist somewhere but i'm lazy and have my own copies whenev i want to watch so go suck eggs (jk ilu all)

The translations for this are not great and the sub work is shoddy as gently caress, with huge swaths of dialogue flying past in the blink of an eye. Honestly the subs add to the fun for me, poo poo is hilarious. Especially during The Bounds of Reason and A Shard of Ice.

There are some changes to Geralt's backstory in this show, but for the most part it's a much more literal adaptation of the short stories than the Netflix show is. There's a lot of good here if you either speak Polish or are fine with the bad fan translation.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

esperterra posted:

The Polish show does so much right, but is also incredibly jank.

Mostly in a good way tho tbh

Doesn't it have some ridiculously fancy and dangerous horseback combat or something? I vaguely remember a post about it back in Witcher 2 days.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGCVvCwJkWI

Arglebargle III fucked around with this message at 06:04 on Jan 5, 2020

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Arcsquad12 posted:

The Pavetta scene is better in the Polish version. I love when the guards open the door and immediately get bowled over the table by her magical vortex.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpReBawvuIU

Was this done by the Polish equivalent of a local access cable channel?

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




nah it's just from like 2000

wait til you see the dragon cgi

e: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg6bz4x8Rvo

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

Hey, are we allowed to complain about the show ITT, or is there a "no spoil sport" rule? Nothing in the OP about it.

Strong Convections
May 8, 2008

esperterra posted:

the dragon cgi

Not actually too bad in motion - they probably should have avoided the long, lingering shots, particularly of it's face. They obviously tried to, with most of the camera time on people talking about the dragon.
I was expecting it to be the worst when in the same shot as people (like, the knight waving his sword at nothing and the dragon janking around), but that's when it looked the best - brief, not in focus, and in motion.

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

Cpt_Obvious posted:

Hey, are we allowed to complain about the show ITT, or is there a "no spoil sport" rule? Nothing in the OP about it.

Opinions provided in this thread cover the whole range of possible reactions. Whatever you have to say, there's someone who agrees with you.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Cpt_Obvious posted:

Hey, are we allowed to complain about the show ITT, or is there a "no spoil sport" rule? Nothing in the OP about it.

Say whatever's on your mind, fam.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Cpt_Obvious posted:

Hey, are we allowed to complain about the show ITT, or is there a "no spoil sport" rule? Nothing in the OP about it.

lol, what sort of question is this.

Why wouldn't you be able to call a piece of poo poo show a piece of poo poo

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

Cpt_Obvious posted:

Hey, are we allowed to complain about the show ITT, or is there a "no spoil sport" rule? Nothing in the OP about it.

I will defy you for a thousand years.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Arcsquad12 posted:

The Pavetta scene is better in the Polish version. I love when the guards open the door and immediately get bowled over the table by her magical vortex.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpReBawvuIU

It's me. I'm Polish Calanthe's powerful hair energy.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Witcher Thronebreaker is awesome if you enjoyed the setting and want a whole game out of the Gwent card game.

Plus it fleshes out Nilfgaard out in terms of cultural differences vs the northern kingdoms.

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Open Source Idiom posted:

It's me. I'm Polish Calanthe's powerful hair energy.

her hair game is so strong

DeadFatDuckFat
Oct 29, 2012

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etalian posted:

Witcher Thronebreaker is awesome if you enjoyed the setting and want a whole game out of the Gwent card game.

Plus it fleshes out Nilfgaard out in terms of cultural differences vs the northern kingdoms.

Yeah, I'm playing it right now and its great. Good soundtrack too, though I am getting a bit tired of the battle music during the actual card games. Theres some weird hag(?) voice singing in it.

Voyager I
Jun 29, 2012

This is how your posting feels.
🐥🐥🐥🐥🐥
Captain Oblivious is jumping over from a discussion in DnD, if you're wondering where this is coming from.

Cpt_Obvious posted:

If you enjoy every single episode ending with "The humans are the REAL monsters!" after the main character slaughters like 30 people for no good reason, then yes.

Cpt_Obvious posted:

I've watched a few, and off the top of my head this happens with the were-porcupine, the dragon and the first episode. Watching the main character kill largely innocent people because of their ignorance is a running theme. Also, there is an episode with an abortion monster, where the main character ties up the father and lets said abortion monster eat him.

It has some seriously fascist themes, but that's a whole other discussion.

Cpt_Obvious posted:

I basically disagree with every single point here, especially because he succeeds in most of his ventures in spite of his friends, not because of them. Every episode is a monumental gently caress-up he has to clean up because he is the prototypical strong-man who understands that the solution to every problem is violence, and everyone who doesn't agree with that is an ignorant fool who will probably die during the course of the episode. Innocence always results in death, either of the body or of innocence itself.

This discussion should be moved here: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3907362

His political takes are similarly terrible.

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Oct 29, 2012

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Voyager I posted:

Captain Oblivious is jumping over from a discussion in DnD, if you're wondering where this is coming from.
His political takes are similarly terrible.

LOL

esperterra
Mar 24, 2010

SHINee's back




Cpt_Obvious posted:

an abortion monster, where the main character ties up the father and lets said abortion monster eat him.

I love the smell of people complaining about a show they weren't paying any attention to

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Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

esperterra posted:

I love the smell of people complaining about a show they weren't paying any attention to

Maybe I got it wrong, but the plot from that episode seemed to be: Father kills pregnant mother, baby eats mother from the inside out, Witcher ties up father, fully grown fetus monster devours father, Witcher turns abortion monster back to live little girl.

Am I confusing the characters?

Edit: phone posting is hard.

Double Edit: fixed spoiler tag.

Cpt_Obvious fucked around with this message at 04:55 on Jan 5, 2020

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