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CPColin: Sep 9, 2003; Big ol' smile.

Volmarias posted:

Why did you have an expert on assholes?

Most of the EE users were experts on assholes

# ? Dec 29, 2019 00:53

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# ? May 21, 2024 10:08

xtal: Jan 9, 2011; by Fluffdaddy

Doom Mathematic posted:

"Never use ==" is almost literally the first thing you're taught when you learn PHP.

Same with JavaScript, which is just as bad as PHP

# ? Dec 29, 2019 02:11

xtal: Jan 9, 2011; by Fluffdaddy

https://twitter.com/lunasorcery/status/1209592895117897728

# ? Dec 29, 2019 04:09

DaTroof: Nov 16, 2000; CC LIMERICK CONTEST GRAND CHAMPION
There once was a poster named Troof
Who was getting quite long in the toof

xtal posted:

https://twitter.com/lunasorcery/status/1209592895117897728

the three states of schrodinger's cat: probably, maybe, and empty string

# ? Dec 29, 2019 05:21

Plorkyeran: Mar 22, 2007; To Escape The Shackles Of The Old Forums, We Must Reject The Tribal Negativity He Endorsed

xtal posted:

https://twitter.com/lunasorcery/status/1209592895117897728

I kinda like it. In practice you usually just use it as if it returned a boolean since it returns truthy/falsey values, and returning vaguely descriptive strings for the true values is better than returning ints (and JS of course has no proper enum). The lack of a "yes" return is because the MIME type is nowhere close to enough information to be able to determine that (the codec's fourcc as suggested in a reply wouldn't be either).

# ? Dec 29, 2019 07:34

Happy Thread: Jul 10, 2005; by Fluffdaddy; Plaster Town Cop

Instead of a string why not have it return an exception type with a pretty_long_type_name to fit a better description in than "maybe", and null on failure to make it still be falsey?

# ? Dec 29, 2019 07:39

Absurd Alhazred: Mar 27, 2010; by Athanatos

Dumb Lowtax posted:

Instead of a string why not have it return an exception type with a pretty_long_type_name to fit a better description in than "maybe", and null on failure to make it still be falsey?

"Instead of doing something bad, why doesn't it do something good?"
"Forget it, Jake, it's Javascript".

# ? Dec 29, 2019 07:41

Suspicious Dish: Sep 24, 2011; 2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro; Fun Shoe

yea multimedia is a loving mess and theres no way around it

Dumb Lowtax posted:

Instead of a string why not have it return an exception type with a pretty_long_type_name to fit a better description in than "maybe", and null on failure to make it still be falsey?

there's nothing interesting you can probably say, also they want to remove fingerprint vectors

# ? Dec 29, 2019 08:40

Absurd Alhazred: Mar 27, 2010; by Athanatos

https://twitter.com/textfiles/status/1211195330592747520

# ? Dec 29, 2019 09:01

Jabor: Jul 16, 2010; #1 Loser at SpaceChem

Absurd Alhazred posted:

https://twitter.com/textfiles/status/1211195330592747520

Is the horror the complaining about the use of the standard "send a keystroke to an X window" tool to send a keystroke to a chrome window? Because that seems like the way it should be done, rather than someone writing a special-purpose tool that only works for Chrome windows.

# ? Dec 29, 2019 09:28

dougdrums: Feb 25, 2005; CLIENT REQUESTED ELECTRONIC FUNDING RECEIPT (FUNDS NOW)

I'm wondering why you'd wanna do that, instead of using selenium. I mean, surely he knows that it exists and works ...

E: Oh it's the chromium bugtracker from 2014 part, that's why. My brain skipped over that part because of the weirdly worded attempt at a joke.

Now I'm just curious about this 'layer of abstraction' he mentions ...

dougdrums fucked around with this message at 13:45 on Dec 29, 2019

# ? Dec 29, 2019 13:38

Plorkyeran: Mar 22, 2007; To Escape The Shackles Of The Old Forums, We Must Reject The Tribal Negativity He Endorsed

Dumb Lowtax posted:

Instead of a string why not have it return an exception type with a pretty_long_type_name to fit a better description in than "maybe", and null on failure to make it still be falsey?

"probably" is "known mime type that we might support", "maybe" is "unknown mime type", and "" is "known mime type that we don't support". There isn't any other information that the browser could supply even if it wanted to.

# ? Dec 29, 2019 18:01

Happy Thread: Jul 10, 2005; by Fluffdaddy; Plaster Town Cop

I know, those things in your second set of quotes per pair could be the names instead, right?

# ? Dec 29, 2019 18:31

duz: Jul 11, 2005; Come on Ilhan, lets go bag us a shitpost

Sure and then you add that to the list of fonts the browser supports as well as the maximum screen size and now you have a unique fingerprint for ad tracking purposes.

# ? Dec 29, 2019 19:18

Plorkyeran: Mar 22, 2007; To Escape The Shackles Of The Old Forums, We Must Reject The Tribal Negativity He Endorsed

Dumb Lowtax posted:

I know, those things in your second set of quotes per pair could be the names instead, right?

Well that'd be sorta needlessly wordy and way more prone to typos in your thing that can't be statically checked.

# ? Dec 30, 2019 03:54

Dylan16807: May 12, 2010

Plorkyeran posted:

Well that'd be sorta needlessly wordy and way more prone to typos in your thing that can't be statically checked.

And the current version lets you use it directly in an if statement.

# ? Dec 30, 2019 12:55

Munkeymon: Aug 14, 2003; Motherfucker's got an
armor-piercing crowbar! Rigoddamndicu𝜆ous.

xtal posted:

Same with JavaScript, which is just as bad as PHP

No, it's less bad

code:

> '0e1234' == '0e2345'
< false

# ? Dec 30, 2019 17:51

xtal: Jan 9, 2011; by Fluffdaddy

Munkeymon posted:

No, it's less bad
code:
> '0e1234' == '0e2345'
< false

https://dorey.github.io/JavaScript-Equality-Table/

JavaScript code:

> "" == [[]]
true

# ? Dec 30, 2019 18:40

Thermopyle: Jul 1, 2003; ...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. �Bertrand Russell

I haven't used PHP much in years.

In JS using triple equals as a matter of course solves it's equality issues. Does using === let you stop worrying about it in PHP?

# ? Dec 30, 2019 18:45

Munkeymon: Aug 14, 2003; Motherfucker's got an
armor-piercing crowbar! Rigoddamndicu𝜆ous.

xtal posted:

https://dorey.github.io/JavaScript-Equality-Table/
JavaScript code:
> "" == [[]]
true

Yeah, IIRC PHP's truth table isn't symmetric. JS is less bad.

# ? Dec 30, 2019 18:59

duz: Jul 11, 2005; Come on Ilhan, lets go bag us a shitpost

Thermopyle posted:

I haven't used PHP much in years.

In JS using triple equals as a matter of course solves it's equality issues. Does using === let you stop worrying about it in PHP?

Yes.

code:

$ php -r "var_dump('0e1234' == '0e2345');"
Command line code:1:
bool(true)
$ php -r "var_dump('0e1234' === '0e2345');"
Command line code:1:
bool(false)

# ? Dec 30, 2019 21:34

megalodong: Mar 11, 2008

PHP talk reminded me of this classic: http://images.use.perl.org/use.perl.org/_Aristotle/journal/33448.html

code:

int size;

size = EXPR;

if (size > INT_MAX || size <= 0) {
    return NULL;
}

dest = calloc(size, sizeof(char));

# ? Dec 31, 2019 10:25

Xarn: Jun 26, 2015

C++ code:

if (mim.master_pair()) {
    retval[p] = mim.master_pair()->first;
} else {
    assert(false);
}

# ? Dec 31, 2019 11:30

Absurd Alhazred: Mar 27, 2010; by Athanatos

More horrors from these very forumses:

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

Lowtax change it so that unregistered users can't list forums in the panel. Some piece of logic in the code decided that not being able to list forums means it should show the banned page. The banned page shows your username - it'd say something like "CONGRATULATIONS fishmech!!!". However, logged in users do not have a username, and get set to a default one. Thanks to literally radium, this default was "Unregistered human being".

I turned off the "logged out users can't see forums" setting for now, and pushed this patch to remove the slurs:

code:

commit 077765fc017446469f9f51025de87b78ec3d3f79
Author: Jeffrey of YOSPOS <JeffreyOfYOSPOS@gmail.com>
Date:   Wed Jan 1 16:32:41 2020 -0600

    remove radium slurs from code

diff --git a/include/authbbuser.php b/include/authbbuser.php
index ca6c718..eca9c16 100644
--- a/include/authbbuser.php
+++ b/include/authbbuser.php
@@ -84,7 +84,7 @@ function bbuser_init($bbuserid, $bbpassword, $ip_address) {
        // if we didn't get a user above, make a guest (yes, this is still required)
        if(!($bbuserinfo[usergroupid])) {
                $bbuserinfo['userid'] = 0;
-               $bbuserinfo['username'] = 'Unregistered human being';
+               $bbuserinfo['username'] = 'Unregistered User';
                $bbuserinfo['daysprune'] = -1;
                $bbuserinfo['timezoneoffset'] = $bbuserinfo['showvbcode'] = 0;
                $bbuserinfo['usergroupid'] = $bbuserinfo['showsmilies'] = $bbuserinfo['showsignatures'] = $bbuserinfo['showavatars'] = $bbuserinfo['showimages'] = 1;
diff --git a/include/global.php b/include/global.php
index 245385d..9ddcf0f 100644
--- a/include/global.php
+++ b/include/global.php
@@ -207,7 +207,7 @@ if ($is_dev_mode && in_array($bbuserinfo['usergroupid'], array(6)) && isset($_GE
                $g = 1;
                $bbuserinfo = array(
                        'userid' => 0,
-                       'username' => 'Unregistered human being',
+                       'username' => 'Unregistered User',
                        'daysprune' => -1,
                        'timezoneoffset' => 0,
                        'showvbcode' => 0,

Edit: More

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

...and fixed the bug. Gonna go back to watching the expanse with my friends now happy new years everyone!!!

code:

commit 50a3f1f28d55d3f9b1db840724f603f80ff455f8
Author: Jeffrey of YOSPOS <JeffreyOfYOSPOS@gmail.com>
Date:   Wed Jan 1 17:02:37 2020 -0600

    Don't show erroneous banned screen

    An "=" instead of a "==" meant that, if you didn't have permission to
    list forums, you were treated as banned.

diff --git a/include/global.php b/include/global.php
index 9ddcf0f..b9c7938 100644
--- a/include/global.php
+++ b/include/global.php
@@ -431,7 +431,7 @@ if(!$permissions['canview'] && !defined('IS_ARCHIVES')) {
        }

        // if the user is banned...
-       if(!$permissions['canview'] && ($bbusergroupid == 4  || $bbusergroupid = 144)) {
+       if(!$permissions['canview'] && ($bbusergroupid == 4  || $bbusergroupid == 144)) {
                dooutput(eval_template('banned'));
                exit;
        }

Absurd Alhazred fucked around with this message at 00:10 on Jan 2, 2020

# ? Jan 1, 2020 23:45

putin is a cunt: Apr 5, 2007; BOY DO I SURE ENJOY TRASH. THERE'S NOTHING MORE I LOVE THAN TO SIT DOWN IN FRONT OF THE BIG SCREEN AND EAT A BIIIIG STEAMY BOWL OF SHIT. WARNER BROS CAN COME OVER TO MY HOUSE AND ASSFUCK MY MOM WHILE I WATCH AND I WOULD CERTIFY IT FRESH, NO QUESTION

bless these, the dead gay forums

# ? Jan 2, 2020 01:02

dougdrums: Feb 25, 2005; CLIENT REQUESTED ELECTRONIC FUNDING RECEIPT (FUNDS NOW)

I was reading that as if it was history and then I saw the commit date lmao

radium posted:

[WARN] the year is now 2020 and you are gay

# ? Jan 2, 2020 01:24

FlapYoJacks: Feb 12, 2009

221 files changed, 72935 insertions(+), 38821 deletions(-)

# ? Jan 2, 2020 05:09

xtal: Jan 9, 2011; by Fluffdaddy

dougdrums posted:

I was reading that as if it was history and then I saw the commit date lmao

drat, how did he know??

# ? Jan 2, 2020 05:21

Volmarias: Dec 31, 2002; EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

ratbert90 posted:

221 files changed, 72935 insertions(+), 38821 deletions(-)

I want to believe that this was an automated refactor that just renames something, but I know in my heart of hearts it's not and just has a commit message like "fixed"

# ? Jan 2, 2020 14:34

FlapYoJacks: Feb 12, 2009

Volmarias posted:

I want to believe that this was an automated refactor that just renames something, but I know in my heart of hearts it's not and just has a commit message like "fixed"

About 70% was done by hand, and I have over 5 paragraphs of commit notes.

Edit*

The title of the commit log is "The refactoring"
And the first sentence is: "As I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil."

FlapYoJacks fucked around with this message at 16:41 on Jan 2, 2020

# ? Jan 2, 2020 16:31

Zopotantor: Feb 24, 2013; ...und ist er drin dann lassen wir ihn niemals wieder raus...

ratbert90 posted:

The title of the commit log is "The refactoring"
And the first sentence is: "As I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil."

I've always been fond of "lasciate ogni speranza, voi ch'entrate".

# ? Jan 2, 2020 19:37

1337JiveTurkey: Feb 17, 2005

Zopotantor posted:

I've always been fond of "lasciate ogni speranza, voi ch'entrate".

I think I've left that particular line on a comment for some mega class that I never was able to effectively refactor.

edit: For people who haven't seen it before it translates roughly to "All Hope Abandon, Those Who Enter Here" from the gates to hell in the Divine Comedy

1337JiveTurkey fucked around with this message at 04:02 on Jan 3, 2020

# ? Jan 3, 2020 03:58

NihilCredo: Jun 6, 2011; iram omni possibili modo preme:
plus una illa te diffamabit, quam multæ virtutes commendabunt

A former coworker was fond of "once more unto the breach...".

# ? Jan 3, 2020 17:55

Munkeymon: Aug 14, 2003; Motherfucker's got an
armor-piercing crowbar! Rigoddamndicu𝜆ous.

"Re-enacting Pickett's Charge"?

# ? Jan 3, 2020 19:03

Doc Hawkins: Jun 15, 2010; Dashing? But I'm not even moving!

# TODO: uuuuugh

# ? Jan 4, 2020 05:54

tankadillo: Aug 15, 2006

https://www.scamlang.dev/

quote:

SCaml

It's not a scam.

# ? Jan 4, 2020 17:11

Hammerite: Mar 9, 2007; And you don't remember what I said here, either, but it was pompous and stupid.; Jade Ear Joe

tankadillo posted:

https://www.scamlang.dev/

SCaml Ang?

# ? Jan 4, 2020 17:29

Arsenic Lupin: Apr 12, 2012; This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.

Zopotantor posted:

I've always been fond of "lasciate ogni speranza, voi ch'entrate".

My husband's BASIC7 (look, we're talking decades ago) compiler, while in beta, printed that out every time you compiled your code. On alternating releases he switched it to English.

# ? Jan 4, 2020 19:46

RPATDO_LAMD: Mar 22, 2013; 🐘🪠🍆

tankadillo posted:

https://www.scamlang.dev/

It's a language for bitcoin nonsense so "it's not a scam" is by definition false.

# ? Jan 4, 2020 20:22

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# ? May 21, 2024 10:08

tankadillo: Aug 15, 2006

RPATDO_LAMD posted:

It's a language for bitcoin nonsense so "it's not a scam" is by definition false.

I didn't scroll all the way down the first time I looked, so I can't believe I missed this:

quote:

SCaml version 1.0 "Pyramid" released!

extremely Not A Scam.

# ? Jan 4, 2020 20:25

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