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I am playing though the game a second time, the thought cabinet is a lot more useful when I am looking at spoilers online to know what each of them does. I hope they change that aspect of the game because it’s the only real bad part of an amazing experience.
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I thought the game was losing steam at the end of day 2; I had hit a dead end in a half dozen different ways and I was starting to get bored from running around hoping to find some breadcrumbs. Day 3 made a world of difference once the river crossing was reopened and I suddenly had a million things to do again. And the reveal of my police car/badge wrapped up that loose thread in the funniest and most surprising way yet. The biggest annoyance so far is that I waited around for Virgil Texas for hours, the night after I met him on the balcony. The quest tip specifically said "next day after 2100". Guess I'll try again at the end of day 3.
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Jan 4, 2020 19:30
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Playing the game and coming to the conclusion that Harry's wife was just superficial bougie trash is an odd take, since it's pretty clear Harry started drinking heavily before their break-up and there were multiple miscarriages as well. Harry spending most of his time either at work or off his tits isn't exactly a reason for her to stick around
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Jan 4, 2020 21:01
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not a bot posted:Playing the game and coming to the conclusion that Harry's wife was just superficial bougie trash is an odd take, since it's pretty clear Harry started drinking heavily before their break-up and there were multiple miscarriages as well. Harry spending most of his time either at work or off his tits isn't exactly a reason for her to stick around I missed alot of the Dora scenes but didn't she have the pregnacies aborted because Harry was a low-earner, or was that just an extrapolation/the bad parts of the brain talking poo poo?
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Jan 4, 2020 21:03
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multijoe posted:I missed alot of the Dora scenes but didn't she have the pregnacies aborted because Harry was a low-earner, or was that just an extrapolation/the bad parts of the brain talking poo poo? Yikes if you think that alone would lead any woman to have an abortion
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Jan 4, 2020 21:09
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Wafflecopper posted:Yikes if you think that alone would lead any woman to have an abortion Well like I said, I didn't actually get that scene in my run, I'm just going from secondhand reports of the Dora dreams
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Jan 4, 2020 21:10
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Harry is an amnesiac and nothing he dredges up about his past is reliable. Kim has it right: stop worrying about the past and about your problems. There's a murder, other people have problems. Worry about those, be a good cop, make the world better.
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Jan 4, 2020 21:13
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multijoe posted:I missed alot of the Dora scenes but didn't she have the pregnacies aborted because Harry was a low-earner, or was that just an extrapolation/the bad parts of the brain talking poo poo? No, she talked about unborn daughters and the abortion bit was just Harry's brain being self-destructive. She didn't find anyone else (even in Harry's hosed up dream she flatly states she never cheated on him) and just was worn out by Harry's poo poo which is pretty obvious from the phone-call with her. The low-earner thing is what drove Harry to work so hard and that drove him into alcoholism but it's not even certain that she thought he was a low-earner or if that was just Harry thinking he had to earn more to be worthy of her. It's not said anywhere but I imagine it wasn't such a big deal for her since they were together for over a decade.
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Jan 4, 2020 21:13
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Did y'all not get the part where they tell you that They were never even married?
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Jan 4, 2020 21:14
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wiegieman posted:Harry is an amnesiac and nothing he dredges up about his past is reliable.
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Jan 4, 2020 21:19
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...but it will make me happy...
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Jan 4, 2020 21:21
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Caufman posted:...but it will make me happy... Invest more in volition!
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Jan 4, 2020 21:23
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Hokkaido Anxiety posted:Did y'all not get the part where they tell you that They were never even married? No one is "married" anymore in Revachol, according to Jean? In the legal/traditional sense of the wife taking the husband's name, at least. My assumption was that because the revolution had explicitly feminist elements such as the switch to matronymics, the tradition may have faded away and Harry somehow forgot about that.
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Jan 4, 2020 21:29
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Mr. Lobe posted:Invest more in volition! Good call, good call. I'll just-  If anything, you need SUPERNATURAL assistance to get away from Dora. You need Inland Empire and Shivers.
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Jan 4, 2020 21:36
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She was middle class. The games second most trustworthy character says so. Also: When Dream Dolores says that she assumes that Harry will get over her, just as she got over him it sounds like something realistic. In that she really loved Harry, didn't love him enough to stay with him and most importantly assumed that Harry felt the same. Note that Harry never offers to quit his job and move to the other city with her, arguably putting his career over his relationship.
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Jan 4, 2020 21:44
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VictualSquid posted:She was middle class. The games second most trustworthy character says so. The game makes it clear to me that Dora, different though her outlook on life was, didn't set out to hurt Harry. Neither did Harry set out to hurt her. But the details are secondary. It didn't work out. There were reasons, but in the final analysis, they just weren't compatible. Playing the blame game helps nobody, and neither does clinging to the past. In other news, I'm nearing the end of the phy/mot playthrough and I love Shivers more and more. It's so good.
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Jan 4, 2020 23:10
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The game says it flat out a few times. Who was at fault for their relationship breaking up? Both of them. Harry didn't start drinking before she left, but he was doing his obsessive cop routine and he was incredibly depressed. They did the moving apart dance for awhile and then she left. How much of what he thinks about her is true? Probably not most of it, but definitely some of it. People outside your head will tell you she was incredibly beautiful and also middle class, so that's a given. Moments when you can't quite figure out that you are thinking about her, and probably don't have focus to be lying to yourself, imply some things about their relationship. It doesn't really matter, the central point is that their relationship couldn't survive his job and what it did to him. The main issue for him is that there are two facts and he can't make them fit. They were in love and She left. And it breaks him every single time he relives it, which we are told is several times a week. Compounded by the utter banality of it, like the part of him that understands how common and everyday this sort of thing is and it's still killing him. It's why his actions in the hotel are as much self-defense as suicide attempt. The person he is can't live with it, so he has to be a new person.
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Jan 4, 2020 23:25
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Caufman posted:Good call, good call. I'll just- *Red Rock Riviera starts playing* INLAND EMPIRE: By god... that's Revachol's music! The City Of Revachol bursts in and hits Dora with the steel chair
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Jan 4, 2020 23:29
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Caufman posted:Good call, good call. I'll just- That really affected me in the end, realizing that the pain goes so deep that not even Volition can bail us out. It's also kind of telling that Wasteland of Reality, the sobering up Thought, takes 20 hours to internalize and then isn't actually very good. I still did it, though, because drat it, I want Harry to pull himself together in the future. Even if the Thought does promise it will be very boring and unrewarding. No bonus pats on the back for acting like a normal human.
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Jan 4, 2020 23:58
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I think it's kind of funny how right at the start Ancient Reptilian Brain is perfectly capable of mentioning ex-wives, yet in the waking world we can't help but think of her as this mysterious otherworldly being.
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Jan 5, 2020 01:36
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drat this soundtrack is amazing! Does anyone know the name (official name) of the track that plays when Harry does the boombox/boat bit?
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Jan 5, 2020 01:52
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chaosapiant posted:drat this soundtrack is amazing! Does anyone know the name (official name) of the track that plays when Harry does the boombox/boat bit? Amazingly enough? Boat Ride Song. They are pretty direct in the naming, like the best track is just called Mercenary Tribunal.
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Jan 5, 2020 01:54
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Mulva posted:Amazingly enough? Those titles are not on the official soundtrack. 
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Skellybones posted:*Red Rock Riviera starts playing* BAH GAWD, KIM. THAT WOMAN HAS A NEW FAMILY! Psykmoe posted:No bonus pats on the back for acting like a normal human. No pats, no. But maybe Kim will smile a smile only you can see.
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Jan 5, 2020 02:05
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Sadly, Want to be Free isn't on the official soundtrack, like the karaoke isn't. The other one is, and it's Krenel, Downwell, Somatosensor.
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Jan 5, 2020 02:06
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Mulva posted:The game says it flat out a few times. Who was at fault for their relationship breaking up? Both of them. Harry didn't start drinking before she left, but he was doing his obsessive cop routine and he was incredibly depressed. They did the moving apart dance for awhile and then she left. How much of what he thinks about her is true? Probably not most of it, but definitely some of it. People outside your head will tell you she was incredibly beautiful and also middle class, so that's a given. Moments when you can't quite figure out that you are thinking about her, and probably don't have focus to be lying to yourself, imply some things about their relationship. It doesn't really matter, the central point is that their relationship couldn't survive his job and what it did to him. I feel like I still side with Harry just because the experience of having someone you care about leave you because of mental illness and a privilege differential kind of hits home for me, but my perspective isn't exactly objective, because I went through a bad breakup with a best friend recently. That being said, this game has been quite cathartic and therapeutic for dealing with that, as well as dealing with themes of depression, drug use, and poverty. The themes on drug use are most interesting to me, partly because I've abstained from them for all my life, so I don't really have a good vantage point for it. How do people more familiar with drug use (or more familiar with people familiar with drug use) find DE's portrayal of that?
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Jan 5, 2020 05:11
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The parts with harry’s ex spoke to me the most out of the entire game. Having been through a traumatic relationship myself. Turning your ex into a goddess blaming yourself for everything... The only difference for me was that it was completely her fault. For many years I could never accept she was at fault. I didn’t find peace and was able to move on to other relationships until I realized that. Relationships like Harry’s are extremely unhealthy. We don’t get many details but I don’t doubt Harry’s was unhealthy and bad for him and her too no doubt. Bottom line harry loving needs therapy. If he is still feeling that bad after six years something is very wrong.
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Jan 5, 2020 05:17
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He needs to talk about this to a professional. Like a psychiatrist, not just a psychologist like 2 degrees above. Is there anything with more degrees than a psychiatrist? A forensic psychiatrist? Yeah talk to a forensic psychiatrist.
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Jan 5, 2020 05:29
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Wonder if British Sea Power's seen a spike in album sales thanks to this game.
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Jan 5, 2020 05:38
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Xanderkish posted:The themes on drug use are most interesting to me, partly because I've abstained from them for all my life, so I don't really have a good vantage point for it. How do people more familiar with drug use (or more familiar with people familiar with drug use) find DE's portrayal of that? Accurate. Especially the alcoholism.
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Jan 5, 2020 05:53
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Animal-Mother posted:Accurate. Especially the alcoholism. Accurate to the point of being painful
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Jan 5, 2020 05:57
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Electrochemistry is real and strong and he's my friend.
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Jan 5, 2020 06:11
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Mr. Prokosch posted:He needs to talk about this to a professional. Like a psychiatrist, not just a psychologist like 2 degrees above. Is there anything with more degrees than a psychiatrist? A forensic psychiatrist? Yeah talk to a forensic psychiatrist. Judging by the response you get when you call the station and talk to the doctor about your catastrophic total amnesia, I don't think the RCM have great mental health coverage.
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Jan 5, 2020 06:46
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Mulva posted:Sadly, Want to be Free isn't on the official soundtrack, like the karaoke isn't. Yeah it is. It's Burn Baby Burn. I know this only because I listened to it like 8 times when I first bought the thing.
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Jan 5, 2020 09:40
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The only song not on the OST is Smallest Church in St. Saens.
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DropsySufferer posted:The parts with harry’s ex spoke to me the most out of the entire game. Having been through a traumatic relationship myself. Turning your ex into a goddess blaming yourself for everything...  It was quite cathartic to play this and have a similar story handled so well, even if it doesn't completely map to Harry and Dora's situation (where fault was more mutual) Xanderkish posted:The themes on drug use are most interesting to me, partly because I've abstained from them for all my life, so I don't really have a good vantage point for it. How do people more familiar with drug use (or more familiar with people familiar with drug use) find DE's portrayal of that? Stunningly accurate. I have a very addictive personality and there really is this kind of voice (something between impulse and voice really) that has you involve yourself in situations where drugs or booze might show up. e; If I had to pick the 'skills' that speak the most to the impulses I have, it's definitely EC, non-supernatural Shivers, and (luckily, so I am able to control myself around booze these days  ) Volition.
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It's my belief that corpses must age like a fine wine till they are ready to be experienced. I left it till day two but I managed to shoot it down without maiming anyone
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dex_sda posted:e; If I had to pick the 'skills' that speak the most to the impulses I have, it's definitely EC, non-supernatural Shivers, and (luckily, so I am able to control myself around booze these days Oooh, do tell about this. I'm not sure how to conceive of a non-supernatural shivers, or find a real-life analogue to it.
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