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Pedro De Heredia posted:Clinton was supposed to be the electable candidate, Sanders tied in Iowa and won in NH, and she still comfortably won the nomination. Yeah, but it seems like Biden kinda forgot to clear the field and buy the DNC in advance so it might not work as well for him.
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Pedro De Heredia posted:Clinton was supposed to be the electable candidate, Sanders tied in Iowa and won in NH, and she still comfortably won the nomination. This ain't 2016. Sanders isn't getting a campaign together after realizing he might have a shot at this thing.
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Pedro De Heredia posted:Clinton was supposed to be the electable candidate, Sanders tied in Iowa and won in NH, and she still comfortably won the nomination. There's a difference between overcoming an 8% national polling lead and a 40% lead, especially in a more volatile primary.
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Jan 5, 2020 18:08
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Concerned Citizen posted:What about Hotmail? If they say Hotmail you just throw their data out. And here's the results from that CBS/YouGov poll re: M4A. First image is Iowa and second is NH. The images also include the gender/age/party ID/etc. demo breakdowns for each states Dem/Dem-Leaning Independent voter pool. Iowa:  NH:  Seems pretty popular with the Dem base, at least!
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Mat Cauthon posted:Again, the assertion of the Biden campaign that Iowa does not matter all that much because they aren't invested in winning it doesn't mean anything to anyone outside the Biden campaign. Saying "well it doesn't matter that I got my rear end kicked because I wasn't even fighting that hard" after you lose is not some noble stance. If he's the fighting candidate who can take it to Trump and win then why can't he take Iowa, even if it's not a priority for him? https://twitter.com/dril/status/460673146451161088?s=20 dril tweet for every aspect of the Biden campaign
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Concerned Citizen posted:
It's not really a precedent because the circumstances were too different. In 1992 one of the candidates was a popular Iowa politician and he had such an advantage there that everyone else just conceded it to him. Iowa didn't matter that year because everyone was expected to lose there. And an underdog overperforming expectations to come in second or third in New Hampshire is a hell of a lot different than the front-runner underperforming to come in second or third.
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Has anyone else in the primary come out clearly and forcefully against this Iran bullshit? Is it still just Bernie so far, and everyone else is "Well this is troublesome, but", right?
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SKULL.GIF posted:Has anyone else in the primary come out clearly and forcefully against this Iran bullshit? Is it still just Bernie so far, and everyone else is "Well this is troublesome, but", right? Bernie and Yang, actually. https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/status/1212920212594610176?s=20
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Jan 5, 2020 18:30
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When will you Bernie bros repent for calling POC babydicks on twitter? I think its pretty unfair that everyone calls the other dem candidates war mongers just they voted for war and frankly its pretty narcissistic for Bernie to claim "he was right" https://twitter.com/JShahryar/status/1213545341364006912?s=20
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Jan 5, 2020 18:42
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Cerebral Bore posted:Yeah, but it seems like Biden kinda forgot to clear the field and buy the DNC in advance so it might not work as well for him. Yeah if Biden had bought out the process and kept Buttigieg and Klobuchar from getting any donors he'd be a lot more likely to survive early state losses
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Jan 5, 2020 18:44
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Bernie is gonna win, y'all
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Wicked Them Beats posted:In this case it's not people willing to answer phone numbers they don't recognize, it's people who self-selected to receive and answer polls via email so they can get entered into prize drawings. Is it a bad methodology? Probably, who knows! This is proof that phone polling is bullshit. Thanks for posting this, you made my day. Biden’s “safe” narrative rests on his ability to win votes. If he gets fewer votes than Bernie, nobody will have any reason to vote for him. Those looking for a safe narrative will have run out of options. They may run to Klobachur or Yang, but that can only further the goal of Bernie winning. It’s looking real loving good to me, at home, thousands of miles away from the people whose votes actually matter.
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Mordor She Wrote posted:When will you Bernie bros repent for calling POC babydicks on twitter? I think its pretty unfair that everyone calls the other dem candidates war mongers just they voted for war and frankly its pretty narcissistic for Bernie to claim "he was right" What the hell are you and this cat on about? Is this like the whole demos against antisemitism account?
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Jan 5, 2020 19:16
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It's funny how all the signs appear to say Pepe behind Buttigieg
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Amazing how they don't even try to hide it
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Jan 5, 2020 19:22
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"Prices went up because Republicans and SCOTUS sabotaged Obamacare." C'mon Biden, any idiot can answer that one.
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Mat Cauthon posted:Again, the assertion of the Biden campaign that Iowa does not matter all that much because they aren't invested in winning it doesn't mean anything to anyone outside the Biden campaign. Saying "well it doesn't matter that I got my rear end kicked because I wasn't even fighting that hard" after you lose is not some noble stance. If he's the fighting candidate who can take it to Trump and win then why can't he take Iowa, even if it's not a priority for him? You're presuming that the media won't frame this in the most pro-Biden way possible. If the final results are anywhere close to those results the narrative will be "Biden/Bernie in virtual tie in IA/NH, two of the most favorable states for Bernie, why didn't he win outright?" Will Biden not winning IA/NH hurt him? Sure a little. But it's not going to be any kind of fatal blow if it is anywhere near that close. He needs to finish a distant 2nd/3rd to really get hurt, IMO.
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Jan 5, 2020 19:28
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Jan 5, 2020 19:29
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I really think Bernie is gonna outperform the polls by a significant margin. The difference in enthusiasm is huge https://twitter.com/BNeidhardt/status/1213881607708401664?s=20
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Gripweed posted:I really think Bernie is gonna outperform the polls by a significant margin. The difference in enthusiasm is huge it's somewhat less dramatic than that tweet since boone is only about 30 minutes from ames (iowa state)
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KIM JONG TRILL posted:You're presuming that the media won't frame this in the most pro-Biden way possible. If the final results are anywhere close to those results the narrative will be "Biden/Bernie in virtual tie in IA/NH, two of the most favorable states for Bernie, why didn't he win outright?" I'd really like to see Biden finish in third or fourth in Iowa/NH and a distant second in NV, coming close or even winning any of those states before SC would mean a much longer primary past Super Tuesday. It would also defy the common wisdom here that Biden's supporters won't actually turn up to vote, which would be problematic given his national polling lead.
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Jan 5, 2020 19:39
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Concerned Citizen posted:it's somewhat less dramatic than that tweet since boone is only about 30 minutes from ames (iowa state) Cool to know that Iowa State has relocated since 2016.
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Was just checking the FB for my local Democrats Abroad chapter, and lmaoed at how few candidates have actually received the *300* signatures necessary to register them for the DA caucusquote:If you are an American Abroad, you can vote in the primaries with Democrats Abroad which is a nationally recognized "state" party. (Make sure you register.) You can also vote with your own state, but let's just say - more bang for your buck by voting abroad. That said, each candidate needs 300 registered Democrats Abroad members to sign a petition to get their name on our ballot! Yet more proof if needed that the billionaires are only interested in a contested convention, and that the Klobucharge is definitely not a thing. e: also apparently someone named "Robby Wells" is running in the Dem primary 
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I don't think losing Iowa hurts Biden at all, but dramatically under performing might, or entering Super Tuesday in overall second place in delegates.
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https://twitter.com/SallyAlbright/status/1213564650727649282?s=19 Laying the groundwork for the inevitable attempt to throw the election to Trump in case Bernie wins the primary.
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Cerebral Bore posted:Cool to know that Iowa State has relocated since 2016. where do you think iowa state is
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“vOtE bLuE nO mAtTer WhO” “If Bernie wins we walk” what a bunch of fuckers
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Vote Blue unless it's You Know Who (The socialist Jew  )
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Concerned Citizen posted:where do you think iowa state is Probably in the same place where it was in 2016, but your post seemed to either suggest otherwise or be abject nonsense. PenguinKnight posted:“vOtE bLuE nO mAtTer WhO” "Vote Blue No Matter Who" was always just a cudgel to use against the left.
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Concerned Citizen posted:where do you think iowa state is Go to Peoria and turn left
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Cerebral Bore posted:Probably in the same place where it was in 2016, but your post seemed to either suggest otherwise or be abject nonsense. people drive to other towns to see their candidate in iowa
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bowser posted:https://twitter.com/SallyAlbright/status/1213564650727649282?s=19 Best case scenario would be Bernie winning by bigly margins while these idiots walk or vote Republican. That could wind up with the quickest party realignment/takeover in history 
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Wicked Them Beats posted:Bernie and Yang, actually. Finally a problem Yang can solve because we literally do nothing.
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Concerned Citizen posted:people drive to other towns to see their candidate in iowa You do realize that the option to do that also existed in 2016, right? And if more people do so now than they did back then this would indicate an increase in enthusiasm, right?
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Just imagine being this loving stupid: https://twitter.com/SallyAlbright/status/1213577575576080385?s=20
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Cerebral Bore posted:You do realize that the option to do that also existed in 2016, right? And if more people do so now than they did back then this would indicate an increase in enthusiasm, right? i'm not sure what 2016 has to do with this at all. the tweet said "only 800 people here caucused in 2016" and i was pointing out that a good number of the people in that crowd almost certainly drove in from ames, hence why it's not quite as dramatic as it appears. it's not 450 bernie supporters that live in boone and are going to caucus in boone, it's a chunk of boone and a chunk of people who drove in from ames and will presumably caucus in ames
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Concerned Citizen posted:i'm not sure what 2016 has to do with this at all. the tweet said "only 800 people here caucused in 2016" and i was pointing out that a good number of the people in that crowd almost certainly drove in from ames, hence why it's not quite as dramatic as it appears Oh my god are you seriously this stupid? Do you not get what exceeding expectations means as a concept?
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