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Jan 5, 2020 19:16
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Executive Order 9066 already? that was quick.
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Jan 5, 2020 19:16
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Inevitable really: https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1213885910024151041
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Jan 5, 2020 19:21
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Aggro posted:Tweets like these remind me how little I understand the governments of the Middle East. I was under the impression that parliament and the president of Iran are more or less props to make the country appear democratic while being ruled by a Supreme Leader. Like, parliament doesn’t have to approve poo poo if Khamenei declares the agreement is null. in addition to iraq != iran, the iranian parliament can do a lot of stuff as long as Khamenei doesn't veto it
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Jan 5, 2020 19:22
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Great, now Bibi can go to UN with his bomb drawing again!
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Jan 5, 2020 19:23
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Brown Moses posted:Inevitable really: Can't argue with that. Trump has demonstrated exactly why Iran needs nuclear weapons.
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Jan 5, 2020 19:24
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Reminder that it is next to impossible to renounce Iranian citizenship conferred on you if you where born in Iran or if your father was born in Iran
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Jan 5, 2020 19:44
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kustomkarkommando posted:Reminder that it is next to impossible to renounce Iranian citizenship conferred on you if you where born in Iran or if your father was born in Iran
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Jan 5, 2020 20:12
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Cat Mattress posted:But yeah, these guys totally have it in the bag, they have a fair and accurate understanding of the situation, that's why they've managed to win Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria so decisively. Iraq: a bit over a month to overwhelming coalition victory. Syria doesn't really apply here because the U.S. hasn't launched a full-scale invasion of the country with the intent of defeating the military and toppling the government. The U.S. military is really, really good at defeating traditional armies and toppling states. It's just pretty poo poo at dealing with the insurgencies that come after, not that that is really a manageable problem to begin with. A war with Iran would be more costly than Iraq or Afghanistan both in casualties and $$$, but you are insane if you think the Iranian army is going to defeat an American invasion outright.
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Jan 5, 2020 20:35
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Thinking about stuff like this in terms of "which side would win" is the whole problem.
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Jan 5, 2020 20:37
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:Afghanistan: two months to overwhelming coalition victory. they will lose but they will fight for ever house on every street. this isnt the iraqi army and sectarian divided country. most of the Iranians would rally behind the flag and it would cost the US a gently caress ton to just take a city. i dont think american populous is willing to sacrifice than many of their sons and daughters for some bullshit hell war so donny can feel like he has a big penis.
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Jan 5, 2020 20:39
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Brown Moses posted:Inevitable really: Amazing it took this long since Trumps been pissing on the ashes of that deal since he entered office.
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Jan 5, 2020 20:41
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:Afghanistan: two months to overwhelming coalition victory. it is one of the only places on Earth where that's a genuine question, though. if we could work up the will to full mobilization? Sure. We'd cream them. if we didn't put a single soldier anywhere near them, could we still level most of the country? Sure. but getting men to the Iranian border, and getting them supplied, involves an awful lot of travel over territory we do not and for the foreseeable future cannot control. which is why we have not done it. and why we invaded Iraq in the first place, to make it more possible to do that. we cataclysmically failed at step one of this plan. jumping straight to step two regardless of that is one of the very few configurations where the US straight loses a war.
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Jan 5, 2020 20:42
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mystes posted:Thinking about stuff like this in terms of "which side would win" is the whole problem.
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https://twitter.com/kathrynw5/status/1213847844622340100?s=21 lol goddamn
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Btw, it seems that the 26th MEU is on its way to the Middle east. https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/01/04/thousands-marines-head-middle-east-navy-ship-iran-pledges-retaliation.html
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:Afghanistan: two months to overwhelming coalition victory. Afghanistan: Talibans are back in charge except for the areas where it's Daesh. Iraq: country is now an Iranian puppet state. There's more to victory than just getting boots inside a palace in the capital city. The US military is very good at getting its boots in palaces, but it's extremely bad at achieving victory. I don't think they could even tell you what victory is supposed to be.
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Cat Mattress posted:Afghanistan: Talibans are back in charge except for the areas where it's Daesh.
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https://twitter.com/iscribe/status/1213858248702545920 What the gently caress is wrong with people's brains. I swear every Iran tweet has at least some hosed up centrist quipping about Russia being the real baddies.
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Kindest Forums User posted:https://twitter.com/iscribe/status/1213858248702545920 because they are idiots.
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:Afghanistan: two months to overwhelming coalition victory. Who even gives half of a poo poo about any of this? Seriously, why exactly is quibbling over who'd win the first battle in a war of any interest when what we should focus on is the outcome of the war itself?
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Jan 5, 2020 21:42
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1213919480574812160 welp. if poo poo happens. it will be declared on twitter.
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Cerebral Bore posted:Who even gives half of a poo poo about any of this? Seriously, why exactly is quibbling over who'd win the first battle in a war of any interest when what we should focus on is the outcome of the war itself? If you're the Iranian leadership, knowing the eventual outcome will be inconvenient for the US too if you get toppled by them probably isn't as reassuring as they'd like.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1213919480574812160
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Cerebral Bore posted:Who even gives half of a poo poo about any of this? Seriously, why exactly is quibbling over who'd win the first battle in a war of any interest when what we should focus on is the outcome of the war itself? It's entirely possible that the US could outright fail to topple the Iranian leadership in a conventional war like the North Vietnamese.
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Cat Mattress posted:Afghanistan: Talibans are back in charge except for the areas where it's Daesh. Yeah and as pointed out earlier Iran is not Afghanistan. Iran has a rich history dating back thousands of years. America will never occupy Iran. The populace will never fall in line.
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Sinteres posted:If you're the Iranian leadership, knowing the eventual outcome will be inconvenient for the US too if you get toppled by them probably isn't as reassuring as they'd like. Iran is one of the easiest countries in the world to hide in and the US invasion would fall apart the moment they actually try to occupy the country instead of just blowing poo poo up, so I don't think the Iranian leadership need to be too worried about their personal safety even if they lost the first battle. Raenir Salazar posted:It's entirely possible that the US could outright fail to topple the Iranian leadership in a conventional war like the North Vietnamese. There's that too, but in this scenario the outcome of the first battle is even more irrelevant.
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:Afghanistan: two months to overwhelming coalition victory. When I think about these wars the first thing that pops into my mind "overwhelming US victory", because I, too, have brain damage.
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mystes posted:Thinking about stuff like this in terms of "which side would win" is the whole problem.
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Orange Devil posted:When I think about these wars the first thing that pops into my mind "overwhelming US victory", because I, too, have brain damage.
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:I, too, deliberately do not read posts so I can pretend there are actual neoconservatives I can argue with on the Something Awful Forums. How long will it take to capture Tehran? 2 days Will Khamenei be killed? Yes Total Iranian civillian casualties: 500 dead Total military casualties Iran: 3000 dead Total military casualties U.S.: 15 dead Will the Iranian army regulars hold the lines? No Will the Revolutionary Guard fight to the end? No Will chem/bio weapons be used on invading troops?: Yes Will Khamenei launch attacks on the Kurds? Yes Will Hezbollah launch attacks on Israel? No -If yes; will Isreal retaliate harshly? Yes Will Khamenei sacrifice Tehran (gas/nuke it)? No Will the Kurds make a grab for independence? Yes Will Iraq do anything silly like try for land? Yes Will Khamenei burn the oil fields? Yes How long will the US be occupying Iran? ~15 years Will the Iran war catalyze increased terrorism in America?No In the long run, will this war be good or bad for the world? Good
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OctaMurk posted:In the long run, will this war be good or bad for the world? Good
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OctaMurk posted:How long will it take to capture Tehran? 2 days Some dude already posted his grover-esque list like 200 posts ago, it was a doozy, too
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Just for fun let me make some adjustments.OctaMurk posted:How long will it take to capture Tehran? 600 days My non sarcastic revision. Just to be clear I know octomurk doesn't think Iran will be a cakewalk. WorldsStongestNerd fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Jan 6, 2020 |
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Also if he's actually loving over Iranian Americans that's a big deal as that's a group that skews pretty drat conservative and who have largely been extremely opposed to the Islamic republic for decades. If nothing else you're meant to wait until you've hired as many translators as possible before pissing them off and persecuting all of them.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Also if he's actually loving over Iranian Americans that's a big deal as that's a group that skews pretty drat conservative and who have largely been extremely opposed to the Islamic republic for decades. Yeah again with the long term planning. Trump and co live in the now
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Gonna cost a lot of money and lives even if the US bulldozes the military. Like, too much. As a non American, I don't get the hate for Iran. If you can be in bed with Saudi Arabia, what's to bad about Iran? I can't imagine any American seriously cares whether someone is Sunni or Shia. Edit: Yes Iran finances terrists and poo poo, but even that is comparably mild for being the mortal enemy of the US since 1979. It feels like a schoolyard bully who has this one specific target nerd for no particular reason.
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