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Its a metallurgy thing and takes alot of trial amd error, infrastructure etc.
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First, because China doesn't handle the entire iPhone supply chain. It sources many inputs from elsewhere. Second, the materials and manufacturing processes involved in making an iphone are much simpler than those required to make a gas turbine.
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The tricky bits for iphones etc are fabricating the ICs (done in taiwan, mostly) and the displays (done in South Korea). Milling out the casings and fabricating/populating the PCBs are relatively simple, along with slapping them all together.
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Suicide Watch posted:I don't get how China can do all the manufacturing for iPhones and Macbooks when they can't get their jet engines done right. Do they have the capability, just lacking the economic will? Or are they actually different processes (forging vs machining? metallurgy?)
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Suicide Watch posted:I don't get how China can do all the manufacturing for iPhones and Macbooks when they can't get their jet engines done right. Do they have the capability, just lacking the economic will? Or are they actually different processes (forging vs machining? metallurgy?) Building jet engines is really loving hard. There's a lot of industrial secrets / classified as poo poo metallurgy etc... One of the major espionage / corruption scandals of the cold war was the Soviets managing to get some CnC machines so they could build submarine propeller designs that they couldn't manufacture otherwise. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toshiba-Kongsberg_scandal Smiling Jack fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Jan 5, 2020 |
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It’s one of those things where simply having a chunk of the refined metal/product doesn’t mean you can divine how it got to the state it is and replicate the process simply by throwing money at it.
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Alaan posted:Were there any full crazy f14 paint schemes? I think I’ve only seen tail paint and a little flair around the cockpit or a line or something. 
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Smiling Jack posted:
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There’s a few of them in bars in Key West, too.
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simplefish posted:What the gently caress is this poo poo? There's a subset of anime where the protagonists are military vehicles (planes, ships etc) but are also somehow anthropomorphic people that also look like japanese schoolgirls.
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Deptfordx posted:There's a subset of anime where the protagonists are military vehicles (planes, ships etc) but are also somehow anthropomorphic people that also look like japanese schoolgirls. I didn't need to know this but it's something I can't forget
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In short: godDAMMIT Japan Edit: he forgot to mention that usually they are not yet highschoolers and there more damage they take the more of their school uniforms come off and i havent spoken to the people that told me that in years Stravag fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Jan 5, 2020 |
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Jan 5, 2020 21:52
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TERRAIN TERRAIN PULL UP
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Suicide Watch posted:I don't get how China can do all the manufacturing for iPhones and Macbooks when they can't get their jet engines done right. Do they have the capability, just lacking the economic will? Or are they actually different processes (forging vs machining? metallurgy?) Others have mentioned that the complex parts of the supply chain aren't made in China, but another overlooked aspect of this is that one of Apple's big business innovations in the 2000s was figuring out how to enforce quality control on your Chinese suppliers. It seems to be something that has to be enforced from outside. Although the situation may have changed in the intervening years as Chinese manufacturing has grown.
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Stravag posted:In short: godDAMMIT Japan Gavrilo Princip has a lot to answer for
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Alaan posted:Were there any full crazy f14 paint schemes? I think I’ve only seen tail paint and a little flair around the cockpit or a line or something. Do a Google Image Search for "Aggressor F-14."
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Hauldren Collider posted:Others have mentioned that the complex parts of the supply chain aren't made in China, but another overlooked aspect of this is that one of Apple's big business innovations in the 2000s was figuring out how to enforce quality control on your Chinese suppliers. It seems to be something that has to be enforced from outside. Although the situation may have changed in the intervening years as Chinese manufacturing has grown. Even with the iPhone the complicated bits are often not made in China. The phones are assembled there and some parts like the batteries come from Chinese companies, but stuff like microprocessors, cameras, glass screens, etc. are coming in from other parts of the world.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Do a Google Image Search for "Aggressor F-14." that flanker scheme.....
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please respect 70 years of japanese culture. In this essay I will explain how the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand directly led to the proliferation of anthropomorphized military equipment as an anime genre
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It's also worth noting that even when dealing with very simple consumer electronics, there's almost always a few people from the designing company who supervise and define and enforce processes. For example, an industrial designer and I will design a circuitboard and an enclosure together here in Australia, and develop assembly instructions for these. We will likely even build the production line testing jigs here. Then we'll send the instructions and design files to our manufacturers in China, and spend at least a month fighting with them until they've finally got it right. Now obviously at this point there are world leading Chinese electronics firms in many different markets, and they can design many things just as well as everyone else, but my point is that manufacturing capability is only half the battle, you also need design capability and that's also very hard. Aircraft engines are particularly hard as the security environment means you have to work everything out from first principles, which takes decades. I'm confident that Chinese firms will develop better engines as their government is willing to fund the monster effort. I don't know if they'll ever catch up though, as I don't think western engine firms are sitting on their hands and they've got a pretty good head start
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Stravag posted:In short: godDAMMIT Japan To be fair there's at least two series where the concept results in a genuinely good show and an alright and entertaining show on the other. Girls Und Panzer which is basically War Thunder/World of Tanks: The Anime, which really commits to the Tank Battles as Sports Tournaments premise. And then there's Highschool Fleet which is like World of Warships: The Anime with some weird plotlines that feel like some director got replaced half way through because it started interesting and then became basically Star Trek by the end with the ship's Doctor curing a rage virus thing. Kinda a mess but harmlessly so with some fun Destroyer on Battleship action. The various ship girl and plane girl animes I've seen so far have definitely been varying levels of garbage but there is in total like 1 or 2 that are at least acceptable.
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Raenir Salazar posted:To be fair there's at least two series where the concept results in a genuinely good show and an alright and entertaining show on the other. Girls Und Panzer which is basically War Thunder/World of Tanks: The Anime, which really commits to the Tank Battles as Sports Tournaments premise. lol this fuckin guy
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MRC48B posted:TERRAIN I dunno, flying into a mountain is starting to sound really appealing.
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Wingnut Ninja posted:I dunno, flying into a mountain is starting to sound really appealing. 
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Raenir Salazar posted:To be fair there's at least two series where the concept results in a genuinely good show and an alright and entertaining show on the other. Girls Und Panzer which is basically War Thunder/World of Tanks: The Anime, which really commits to the Tank Battles as Sports Tournaments premise. powerful post/av combo
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I lust for nuclear death
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LostCosmonaut posted:powerful post/av combo I mean someone out there paid 10$ for it, so don't thank me, you can thank my friends on the other side. 
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iirc there was some critical process in the SR-71 project that was loving up all the time and was eventually traced back to brand of window cleaner the janitors were using. Cutting edge materials science isn't quite magic but it's definitely magic-adjacent. E: another example of titanium metallurgy being an insanely hard nut to crack in terms of industrial-scale execution is the soviets throwing up their hands in disgust and saying "gently caress it, we'll just build the Foxbat out of stainless" which is uhhh non-optimal to say the least shame on an IGA fucked around with this message at 00:28 on Jan 6, 2020 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31g0YE61PLQ
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Jesus. Had no idea you felt so strongly about material science. Here buddy, have some anime jet fighter girls to feel better.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiK6QBkV0gU
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Cyrano4747 posted:Jesus. Why the gently caress is she wearing no helmet and a maid outfit in- you know what I'm ok not knowing.
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Et tu Cyrano?
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Cyrano4747 posted:Jesus. is mod sass still bannable
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Cyrano4747 posted:Jesus. No implausibly skimpy G suits that act as push up bras when inflated. 0/10. Unwatchable. Christ you give him a red star and he goes mad with power
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Discussion > The Firing Range > KŪGUN / REISEN - Its literally the first two lines of their OVA
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lmao that clip owns
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Cyrano4747 posted:Jesus. This is actually that Show-Within-A-Show from Shirobako and isn't actually a produced anime. 
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Fine. So where is the attack helicopter one.
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