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Cough Drop The Beat posted:Please don't link (unfunny) getfiscal tweets. He's an actual Nazi. https://twitter.com/cd_hooks/status...ingawful.com%2F
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Colonel Cancer posted:Lmao this looks amazing it is in fact, sick as gently caress
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Jan 6, 2020 20:03
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it's okay, the gap will close as both sides cease to recognize irony in any form and they will unite to purge the earth of those English teachers who persist in propagating a dangerous myth
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Jan 6, 2020 20:12
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Burns posted:Problem is if disney thinks SW is about family well we are yet to see a sindle drat functional family unit in any of the movies. So it's bad because it's too realistic?
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Jan 6, 2020 20:14
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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:So it's bad because it's too realistic? Its lost the point because it failed to develop one. The new trilogy is about nothing.
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Jan 6, 2020 20:20
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First day back in class and my grade 7's were thoroughly disappointed with ROS. The single biggest complaint was. . . Nothing! Because nobody under the age of 40 wanted to watch it, because kids don't give a solitary poo poo about star wars anymore.
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Jan 6, 2020 20:27
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Blistex posted:First day back in class and my grade 7's were thoroughly disappointed with ROS. The single biggest complaint was. . . TBH I could not get my kids to sit down for any Star Wars that wasn't The Mandalorian (which my 7 year old would get up early of his own volition on Fridays so he could watch before school.)
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Jan 6, 2020 20:28
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Owlbear Camus posted:TBH I could not get my kids to sit down for any Star Wars that wasn't The Mandalorian (which my 7 year old would get up early of his own volition on Fridays so he could watch before school.) Three kids out of 25 identified that they watched the Mandalorian because their parents got them Disney + for Marvel content.
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Jan 6, 2020 20:35
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Blistex posted:First day back in class and my grade 7's were thoroughly disappointed with ROS. The single biggest complaint was. . . This is the funniest thing to me. It's a load of man babies moaning about a film aimed at kids & said kids don't even watch it. Reminds me a lot of this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUkCJDkG3fg
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Jan 6, 2020 20:47
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My 11-year old nephews that enjoyed TROS walked out on Jurassic Park to play video games they've easily played for 100s of hours 
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Jan 6, 2020 22:00
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revwinnebago posted:The entire prequel trilogy is predicated on Qui-Gon leaving Anakin’s enslaved mother to rot in a slave colony on a desert planet, because his Jedi robes don't have any pockets, so he couldn't carry a few bucks to purchase some slaves, so he had to barter Anakin's freedom based on forcing the slave boy to enter an incredibly dangerous race, because he was too busy trying to save a Queen, who he thinks needs to be physically present to NOT sign a treaty that somebody is trying to get her to sign to make an invasion of a planet legal, because space taxes? The Jedi should have freed the slaves imo. Less Dalai Lama more John Brown
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Jan 6, 2020 22:25
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christmas boots posted:The Jedi should have freed the slaves imo. Less Dalai Lama more John Brown Jedi cared more about maintaining  than their own values and that's why the Republic died.
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Jan 6, 2020 22:34
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I truly can't tell if Lucas was trying to tell us textually that the Jedi's ascetic, slavery-tolerating aloofness was meant to be read as sociopathic nonsense, or if he thinks their ways were basically good with some flaws. I want to give him the benefit of the doubt on that one. Like in Ep III the scene with Wise Master Yoda sitting 2 feet from Anikan just simmering and seething with resentment, guilt, and perfidy over Padme and he's just like "LOL whatever you're forgiven my son, just do 5 'Our Vaders' and recite the Four Noble Truths and you'll be A-Ok."
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Jan 6, 2020 22:40
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If nothing else one thing the Prequels actually executed on really well was showing how poo poo the Jedi are.
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Jan 6, 2020 22:49
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Owlbear Camus posted:I truly can't tell if Lucas was trying to tell us textually that the Jedi's ascetic, slavery-tolerating aloofness was meant to be read as sociopathic nonsense, or if he thinks their ways were basically good with some flaws. The prequels end with the Jedi getting sucker-punched by a guy they saw every day who was nakedly grabbing power for over a decade right in front of them, with biggest advocates of the traditional status quo reduced to living as hermits in exile brooding over their failures. It's so amazingly non-subtle that it must have been deliberate.
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Jan 6, 2020 23:01
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Yoda and Mace Windu: “wtf we can’t see what we should do about political institutions failing, rapacious corporations ransacking planets, mass loss of faith in the government. It must be the dark side clouding our vision” Also Yoda and Mace Windu: “the evil Sith Lord Count Dooku has kidnapped our Jedi knights! Are we bad enough dudes to invade a planet with our secret army that we had made and start a galactic scale war?” Also also Yoda and Mace Windu: “whoa our boss was a Sith Lord all along. If we just kill him we can get rid of the dark side and everything will be fine”
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Jan 6, 2020 23:06
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I refuse to believe it is not intentional that the Jedi are supposed to come off as blind, dogmatic dipshits for failing to notice Anakin was falling to the dark side despite the fact that it was the most blatantly obvious thing in the world. Like one of the first dialogues Anakin has with Obi-Wan in AotC is him going "I keep having dreams about my mom and they're distracting me and man do I miss her so much, hope she's okay. Oh also have I mentioned how much I want to gently caress Natalie Portman? Goddamn she's hot." and Obi-Wan just kinda pats him on the shoulder and goes "you'll get over it, kiddo". Also the Yoda scene as mentioned above where Anakin basically has a breakdown in front of Yoda over potentially losing Padme and Yoda just shrugs and goes "whoever you're talking about you should just learn to not care if they die, that's how us cool Jedi roll" and thinks the problem is solved. Also just  that Anakin killing Dooku at the start of RotS is supposed to be some big evil moment where oh no how could an all loving Jedi kill a helpless opponent?! meanwhile Obi-Wan killed a guy out of straight up revenge, Mace lobbed Jango's fuckin' head off in front of his kid, and then also decides he's just going to summarily execute Sheeve because "he's too dangerous!" The Jedi are hypocritical as gently caress.
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Jan 6, 2020 23:20
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Sydin posted:I refuse to believe it is not intentional that the Jedi are supposed to come off as blind, dogmatic dipshits for failing to notice Anakin was falling to the dark side despite the fact that it was the most blatantly obvious thing in the world. Like one of the first dialogues Anakin has with Obi-Wan in AotC is him going "I keep having dreams about my mom and they're distracting me and man do I miss her so much, hope she's okay. Oh also have I mentioned how much I want to gently caress Natalie Portman? Goddamn she's hot." and Obi-Wan just kinda pats him on the shoulder and goes "you'll get over it, kiddo". Also the Yoda scene as mentioned above where Anakin basically has a breakdown in front of Yoda over potentially losing Padme and Yoda just shrugs and goes "whoever you're talking about you should just learn to not care if they die, that's how us cool Jedi roll" and thinks the problem is solved. I think the secret subtext is that the Jedi Council members were all stoned out of their gourds at every meeting and that's why they were so aloof and disconnected from the happenings around them. Anakin was mad because they weren't sharing the space weed with him.
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Imagine if Mace had read how important it was to him and thrown Anikan a bone letting him join the Palpy strike team. Sheev: "Defect to my side, Anikan; I can help you save Padme from dying!" Mace: "I didn't know the senator was diyng but... No, he can't" Weird alien Jedi 1: "Yeah that's not even a thing man." Weird Alien Jedi 2: "TBH healing is a light-side power. I'd be surprised if all this binch can do much more than shoot lightning out of his dickbeaters." Anikan: "Yeah I guess that makes sense. Alright let's work together and outflank this guy, last time I jumped the gun it cost me my right arm and we don't want anyone getting maimed this time around!"
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Jan 6, 2020 23:34
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Most of Luke’s arc in ESB and all of it in ROTJ is about how the Jedi masters are wrong and Luke is right to trust his feelings instead of their teachings. All the prequels follow from this to the point where ROTS literally has Ben Kenobi, first exponent of the virtues of the Jedi, respond to the claim that those who aren’t for us are against us by shouting that only Sith deal in absolutes. It’s so incredibly hamfisted that it somehow smashed people’s brains and most of them came away with the idea that actually, the Jedi are still right and good somehow. But TLJ is revolutionary and daring for having Mark Hamill say “I don’t like space wizards............just kidding haha, I do like them”
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Jan 6, 2020 23:38
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"Weird Alien Jedi 1". Come on man, show some respect to Jedi Master Kit Fisto.
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Jan 6, 2020 23:48
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Chomp8645 posted:"Weird Alien Jedi 1". Come on man, show some respect to Jedi Master Kit Fisto. Surely that's just his stage name.
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skasion posted:Most of Luke’s arc in ESB and all of it in ROTJ is about how the Jedi masters are wrong and Luke is right to trust his feelings instead of their teachings. All the prequels follow from this to the point where ROTS literally has Ben Kenobi, first exponent of the virtues of the Jedi, respond to the claim that those who aren’t for us are against us by shouting that only Sith deal in absolutes. It’s so incredibly hamfisted that it somehow smashed people’s brains and most of them came away with the idea that actually, the Jedi are still right and good somehow. Look if you didn’t enjoy Yoda egging Luke on to burn the Jedi tree and then doing it himself when he bitched out I don’t know what to tell you. Wise Yoda < Troll Yoda
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Jan 6, 2020 23:53
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Obi Wan waits until he's chopped Anakin's arms and legs off to tell him he loves him for the first time. Anakin is right to be upset.
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sassassin posted:Obi Wan waits until he's chopped Anakin's arms and legs off to tell him he loves him for the first time. Leaving him to fry without a misericordia stroke is some stone Saw poo poo. I mean he's a mass child murderer so he arguably deserves it but IMO it's clearly some hard-rear end revenge that's outside a strict reading of the Jedi code.
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Jan 7, 2020 00:10
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Obi-wan is too distraught to actually kill him, which you can tell because he is sobbing and screaming at the top of his lungs throughout the scene. It’s the first time he’s had to confront his feelings about Anakin instead of pretending that their relationship is perfectly detached and all business.
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Obi-wan just can't kill people for poo poo man. He chops a guy in half and lets him fall down a bottomless pit, dude comes back with spider legs. He cuts off another guy's limb and let's him fry inside a volcano, dude comes back in a machine suit. No wonder he just shot Grievous. Only way to be sure!
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Jan 7, 2020 00:27
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skasion posted:He did a pretty good job killing himself Maybe he didn't think it was gonna work. "Man these lightsabres don't kill people for poo poo, they always coming back. Come on Vader, try to kill me a lightsaber! See what happens! I'll come back and beat your rear end with my cyborg parts."
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Jan 7, 2020 00:34
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skasion posted:He did a pretty good job killing himself he waits till the kid is looking to drop his guard. powerful "i did it for you damien" energy.
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I used to wonder just how intentional all the heinous social poo poo that goes almost completely unremarked upon in Star Wars was, but it was all confirmed for me in that Raiders of the Lost Ark brainstorming session in which Lucas is chuckling while suggesting Indy ought to be a pedophile in order to make the audience uncomfortable. I think it's kind of brilliant. Yes, sentient robots are slaves, clones are raised from birth to be cannon fodder, and storm troopers are kidnapped brainwashed children. And we shouldn't ever see the heroes go out of their way to do anything about it on screen.
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There's probably a decent story in there about Anakin torn between his surrogate father's ideals and the woman he loves and her politics and Obi-wan refusing to see his surrogate son's weaknesses and flaws and justifying Anakin's actions to the Jedi Council. But that execution man.
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Owlbear Camus posted:he waits till the kid is looking to drop his guard. powerful "i did it for you damien" energy. The classic theory. quote:So last night I'm watching "Return of the Jedi: Now With Fakey-Looking Computerized Creatures Instead of Fakey-Looking Rubber Creatures," which I got for Christmas, and I noticed that Lucas hasn't fixed the main non-Ewok problem with the movie: the fact that the final battle between Luke and Vader makes no sense.
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SidneyIsTheKiller posted:I used to wonder just how intentional all the heinous social poo poo that goes almost completely unremarked upon in Star Wars was, but it was all confirmed for me in that Raiders of the Lost Ark brainstorming session in which Lucas is chuckling while suggesting Indy ought to be a pedophile in order to make the audience uncomfortable. Uhhh, what?
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Gianthogweed posted:Uhhh, what? George Lucas: I was thinking that this old guy could have been his mentor. He could have known this little girl when she was just a kid. Had an affair with her when she was eleven. Lawrence Kasdan: And he was forty-two. George Lucas: He hasn’t seen her in twelve years. Now she’s twenty-two. It’s a real strange relationship. Steven Spielberg: She had better be older than twenty-two. George Lucas: He’s thirty-five, and he knew her ten years ago when he was twenty-five and she was only twelve. It would be amusing to make her slightly young at the time. Steven Spielberg: And promiscuous. She came onto him. George Lucas: Fifteen is right on the edge. I know it’s an outrageous idea, but it is interesting. Once she’s sixteen or seventeen it’s not interesting anymore. But if she was fifteen and he was twenty-five and they actually had an affair the last time they met. And she was madly in love with him and he… EDIT: Oh, also, this explains a lot about Lucas.... choices in some films "Lucas: He could be French or Italian. No. Italians are too crazy. He could be an Arab. One of those weasel-faced. thin-moustached Arab professors" Bloody Hedgehog fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Jan 7, 2020 |
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Indy being a piece of poo poo plays into all them old serials that Indiana Jones is an homage of (the protagonists in those were violent misogynistic pieces of poo poo too).
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:George Lucas: I was thinking that this old guy could have been his mentor. He could have known this little girl when she was just a kid. Had an affair with her when she was eleven. drat, I never heard about this. What's the source? I never really thought about the age difference between Marion and Indy in that film. I assumed she was five or so years younger so I didn't think it was weird, but wow, 12 years old?
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She literally still has the line "I was a child" in the finished film and talks about him taking advantage of her. Like even if Spielberg didnt want to include the actual ages the undertone stayed.
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Marion: I was a child. I was in love. It was wrong and you knew it! Indiana: You knew what you were doing. She's being literal. EFB
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