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Vahakyla posted:What jack should I use to lift up my fatback F-16? Your fatback is already jacked on Conformal Steroid Tanks
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Continuity RCP posted:China breaking into the Comecon market is huge god help us if they break into comic con
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Vahakyla posted:What jack should I use to lift up my fatback F-16? Your wife's got a weird petname, vaha 
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SimonCat posted:Which one, Snap-on? My understanding was the factory that made Craftsman and Masterforce closed down.
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Raenir Salazar posted:I'm not sure exactly if the USSR really demonstrated a particular weakness in its aviation industry; because at about the time the most advanced designs were being developed in the US the USSR's economy was crumbling and the money and investment dried up in conjunction with a brain drain. Up until the late 70's by hook or by crook the USSR was more or less on par wasn't it? I mean the Soviet Union put the first satellite and the first man into space. 'The Soviet system is automatically and by its very nature incapable of doing advanced precise poo poo' doesn't really hold up. feedmegin fucked around with this message at 00:45 on Jan 7, 2020 |
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I dunno if it was something uniquely Soviet but they certainly have always lagged behind the US/UK when it comes to jet engine design and manufacture. And ships. And complex consumer products in general, though I admit that's mainly my perception. The space program was pretty much just a once in a generation supergenius guy willing it to succeed.
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https://twitter.com/barbarastarrcnn/status/1214280773412511745 Ignoring politics: S-300 vs B-52 is cold war as gently caress.
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mlmp08 posted:That is why the following is true and definitely not ignored or unaccomplished: Nicely done.
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bewbies posted:The space program was pretty much just a once in a generation supergenius guy willing it to succeed. Thats not how these things work. Consumer products certainly, but they weren't trying to produce the best consumer products in the first place so that's hardly surprising really. Didn't they do pretty well on subs for quite a while there talking of ships? Being a continental power they had no reason to prioritise surface shIps, the Fulda Gap is right <--- there anyway no boats required. feedmegin fucked around with this message at 01:28 on Jan 7, 2020 |
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hobbesmaster posted:https://twitter.com/barbarastarrcnn/status/1214280773412511745 This had me thinking what would run ECM duty or wild weasel duty if such a thing went down. Then I had the thought that didn't the B-1 have an electronic warfare variant but google tells me I'm wrong. I know we stopped using EF-111s. Do we have any planes that do ECM anymore or is it all just pods on F-16s etc? fake edit: wiki also confirms for me that the EA-6Bs are retired. Can we put HARMs or equivalents inside F-22s or 35s? edit: oh what about B-2s running HARMs?
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feedmegin posted:I mean the Soviet Union put the first satellite and the first man into space. 'The Soviet system is automatically and by its very nature incapable of doing advanced precise poo poo' doesn't really hold up. The Soviets were absolutely peers when it came to manufacturering war poo poo as compared to the west but they had gaps in ability, starting mostly in the late 70s, mostly around stuff that needed a strong computer / information tech component (CnC milling, for example). The Mig-25 melty engine was solved by the time the Mig-31 rolled out, IIRC. Edit: I vaguely recall the Soviets stealing some sort of software to control oil fields or pipelines or whatever, the CIA found out and sold them infected versions that led to production issues.
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tangy yet delightful posted:This had me thinking what would run ECM duty or wild weasel duty if such a thing went down. Then I had the thought that didn't the B-1 have an electronic warfare variant but google tells me I'm wrong. I know we stopped using EF-111s. Do we have any planes that do ECM anymore or is it all just pods on F-16s etc? The EA-18G is the successor to the EA-6B. It's an electronic warfare variant of the Super Hornet.
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For ARMs the AARGM-ER is the one to keep an eye out for this year - it should be a huge bump up in capability from the latest HARM. The MALD is also a pretty clever weapon with a lot of potential for loving with air defenses. ^^The MiG-25 never overcame the engine overheat issue. The MiG-31 was also redlined at Mach 2.83 for the same reason. Warbadger fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Jan 7, 2020 |
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MRC48B posted:B-52s have their own Ewar suite. While to my non-classified person's understanding is that they do have their own (which I should have mentioned) my thought was you wouldn't want them going up against Iranian air defenses without some different birds running interference. ml & wingnut I had totally blanked on the Hornet variant - thanks! And thanks Warbadger for the googlable names there.
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Warbadger posted:For ARMs the AARGM-ER is the one to keep an eye out for this year - it should be a huge bump up in capability from the latest HARM. The MALD is also a pretty clever weapon with a lot of potential for loving with air defenses. In fairness I don't think they really cared too much about designing in an increase of the max speed of the -31, they designed it for more reliability, range, and low-altitude speed, plus to haul a new look-down radar to find and attack US cruise missiles and low fast bombers. The need for ULTIMATE SPEED pure interceptors had kind of waned by then on both sides of the Cold War iirc. The Mig-31 is a lot more useful in a lot more roles than the -25. tl;dr they probably could have made a faster, less melty engine and airframe for the Foxhound, but they just didn't need to Neophyte fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Jan 7, 2020 |
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tangy yet delightful posted:While to my non-classified person's understanding is that they do have their own (which I should have mentioned) my thought was you wouldn't want them going up against Iranian air defenses without some different birds running interference. Buffs won’t be flying over Iran until all the most dangerous SAMs are cratered. They’d most likely be used to sling tons of ALCMs at targets on the Iranian periphery.
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LibCrusher posted:Buffs won’t be flying over Iran until all the most dangerous SAMs are cratered. They’d most likely be used to sling tons of ALCMs at targets on the Iranian periphery. When it comes to cratering the most dangerous SAMs the Buffs are actually pretty handy these days. A single B-52 can launch enough MALDs pretending to be strike packages of F-15E's or whatever to expend a battery's worth of S-300's. Or a mix of some jamming decoys and JASSM's to do the cratering. Warbadger fucked around with this message at 03:38 on Jan 7, 2020 |
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Source4Leko posted:Harbor freight is barely the same company from 5 years ago. Still not as good as premium domestic tool brands but everything now holds up surprisingly well. It's better, but let's not get crazy. mlmp08 posted:The EA-18G exists. And compass call. F-16s carry HARM as well. Godholio fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Jan 7, 2020 |
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feedmegin posted:I mean the Soviet Union put the first satellite and the first man into space. 'The Soviet system is automatically and by its very nature incapable of doing advanced precise poo poo' doesn't really hold up. And then Apollo happened, including microprocessors, surface mount electronics and a myriad other MIC things. The soviets kept using electro-mechanical things to control their spacecraft that I wouldn't be surprised to find in a cheap 1980s wash machine.
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LibCrusher posted:Buffs won’t be flying over Iran until all the most dangerous SAMs are cratered. They’d most likely be used to sling tons of ALCMs at targets on the Iranian periphery. CALCM/JASSM I'd hope, but yeah a B-52 isn't going within 500 miles of the border of a hostile country with S-300s.
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does anyone want to take a swing at making an OP for a reboot of this thread? I'm trying to clean house a bit on some of the threads that have been going on since the dawn of time.
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karoshi posted:And then Apollo happened, including microprocessors, surface mount electronics and a myriad other MIC things. The soviets kept using electro-mechanical things to control their spacecraft that I wouldn't be surprised to find in a cheap 1980s wash machine. The Apollo guidance’s computer’s display, this thing:  There were one hundred and thirty‐two relays packed behind that panel, clicking away, controlling every segment of the display. That’s not to negate the importance of advances in solid state technology. If the DSKY had been designed a few years later, it could have been much simpler. Platystemon fucked around with this message at 04:46 on Jan 7, 2020 |
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Platystemon posted:The Apollo guidance’s computer’s display, this thing: A group of guys recently restored a vintage Apollo guidance computer and then used it to emulate a moon landing.
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Cyrano4747 posted:does anyone want to take a swing at making an OP for a reboot of this thread? I'm trying to clean house a bit on some of the threads that have been going on since the dawn of time. Honest question, do archives still work? I'd hate to lose the resource of searching within this thread.
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tangy yet delightful posted:Honest question, do archives still work? I'd hate to lose the resource of searching within this thread. Yeah, they do. Oh, and the new OP should link to this thread. I'll edit a link in if they don't. If anyone wants to highlight some of the best of this thread that can go into the new OP as well, either on day one or down the road as people find poo poo to put in.
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lest you all think I'm not serious, I just rebooted the ELEVEN GODDAMN YEARS OLD WHAT THE CHRIST milsurp thread.
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I worry a reboot of this thread would risk turning into more of a current events thread which is a topic best left alone.
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Just repost the original first post.
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Platystemon posted:That’s not to negate the importance of advances in solid state technology. If the DSKY had been designed a few years later, it could have been much simpler. Even more fun from the AGC is the core rope ROM that was used to store the software:  And more than you probably ever wanted to know: http://www.righto.com/2019/07/software-woven-into-wire-core-rope-and.html
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Mortabis posted:I worry a reboot of this thread would risk turning into more of a current events thread which is a topic best left alone. Well, someone should make a cool OP that talks about swedish interceptors from the 70s or something.
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razak posted:Even more fun from the AGC is the core rope ROM that was used to store the software: Woah. Had no idea that was a thing. Weaving software.
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Aw, I like this thread! It's not rusty, it just has a patina!
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Cyrano4747 posted:lest you all think I'm not serious, I just rebooted the ELEVEN GODDAMN YEARS OLD WHAT THE CHRIST milsurp thread. Eleven years? Please, that's not even long enough for the grease to harden! Reboot it only when it can be listed on the C&R 
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stealie72 posted:Woah. Had no idea that was a thing. Weaving software. CS 420: Outer Space Software Weaving 
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Proof the Ancient Incans were astronauts!!! 
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feedmegin posted:Thats not how these things work. Also, weren't the Soviets world leaders in helicopter design?
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